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Topic started by bb (@ 24.4.254.104) on Tue Feb 20 03:21:22 EST 2001.
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Hi! We've made a major addition to newtfmpage, and that is a big song bank. Dhool features thousands of songs for your listening pleasure. This site is a part of the newtfmpage.com - swara.com group. Together with newtfmpage, we wish to make this the best place to listen to tamil film songs online and know about tamil film music. Our collection includes old, new, famous, rare and unheard of songs. We are still fine tuning and fixing the database errors, so please bear with us. We value your feedback, and this will help us build the site better. Please post your comments below or mail to comments@newtfmpage.com.
This work was done by us (bb and RR) with MS and swara.com ravi.

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• From: Raj (@ 208.164.98.89) on: Wed Apr 7 01:23:29 EDT 2004
  
  bb: The link in the opening page does not work-404 error!
  
  
• From: bb (@ 24.6.216.148) on: Wed Apr 7 01:48:34 EDT 2004
  
  Fixed, Thx.
  
  
• From: Naaz (@ 24.87.30.219) on: Wed Apr 7 09:16:51 EDT 2004
  
  bb -
  Thanks for the contextual details regarding Kanavu Kaanum. I am not surprised that the song has been discussed ad nauseum. When I moderated a panel featuring the actors and director of Veedu (around the time it won the national award(s)) there was a question from the audience regarding the "copied" song in Neengal Kaetavai. I paraphrased BMs answer in the earlier post.
  
  Saravanan -
  
  A fine selection again!
  
  
• From: sats (@ 139.177.224.128) on: Wed Apr 7 10:15:27 EDT 2004
  
  Was wondering about how this line would be song by Udit Narayan/adnan sami if this had been written today .
  
  Siru vizhi kurunagai suvaitharum mazhalayin
  
  Nalla varthai prayogam
  
  
• From: OISG (@ 195.229.241.170) on: Wed Apr 7 15:31:24 EDT 2004
  
  A dance song written for preset tune.But just one word to describe the tune-"ämazing".Being a dance in kutcheri pattern every line gets an instrumental reply.But the veenai,Violin,a great tune and Kavingnar's lyrics make this song a must listen.
  
  A certain lesson in abheri.GR was to show his abheri in totally different platform for another dance song few years later with SJ in deivathin Deivam and that too after she has swept the TFM with her Abheri composed by SMS.Such was the man's musical base.Remarkable.
  
  PL - I have a soft corner for her various reasons.sundari soundari,Endru thaniyum, her superb duet (Sakunthalam) with SG in Engiruntho vanthaL being some of them.But i too had visited Guruvayur in 1983 and listened to her songs at ushath kalam - Divine.A feeling you get only with MSS at any other temple.anadavania thuyil ezhuppum arputha sevai .May god bless them.
  
  But PL certainly falters at "lE"in "geethangalE" at many places.For Ėndru Thaniyum intha sudhadira dhagam you can forgive her occasional slip.The voice has an aura of elegance and the classical training is put to best use.
  
  I too got the gateway error initially.
  
  
• From: OISG (@ 217.165.121.51) on: Wed Apr 7 16:09:10 EDT 2004
  
  BB
  A request from this SPB fan - please space out SPB songs.
  
  Alderman ? We waited and cheered for him to beat Hogg's 42 in Ashes.You would have been tape vecha drawer that time? I had some weird likes ..was backing Sarfraz during his 9 for 81...wanted Collis King to score a hundred before Richards simply because I liked the name "Collis"...wanted Bacchus to get his 300 since he was good looking amongst the WI team 1978.
  
  
• From: bb (@ 206.154.118.2) on: Wed Apr 7 18:14:59 EDT 2004
  
  OISG, SPB song neraiya pOdarEn thaan, but of late koraichchuttEnE.. only 2 in the last 17, 3 in the last 30 :)
  
  Alderman sari, but Sarfraz Nawaz? "weird likes" is the right term!
  
  
• From: bb (@ 24.6.216.148) on: Thu Apr 8 01:05:52 EDT 2004
  
  Song of the Day: idhayam pEsinaal from amarakaaviyam.
  
  http://www.newtfmpage.com/cgi-bin/stream.pl?url=http://www.dhool.com/sotd/idhayam.rm
  
  - I was browsing the "Yeithoa Ninaivugal - Memories of Another Day" thread http://www.newtfmpage.com/forum/24587.23.02.05.html . Naaz had commented on this song that I hadn't heard before. Listening to it today, I am hooked. It is sung by Vani Jayaram. Music by MSV.
  
  The pallavi itself is an unconventional one that doesn't fit the usual sandham:
  "idhayam pEsinaal
  unnidam
  aayiram pEsumO
  idhazhgaL pEsumO
  mounamE pOdhumO"
  
  The song talks about the longing of a girl in love, who wishes to open her heart to her lover. She sings,
  "oru naaL vaanilE
  veNNilaa vandhadhu
  unnaiththaan eNNinEn
  ennavO pEsinEn"
  
  The song is perfect for Vani Jayaram. Listen to her end the song with a melancholic "irundhaal unnudan, illaiyEl naanillai".
  
  - Amara kaaviyam was MSV's home production. It finds a place in the thread "Sivaji's anti-social movies" http://www.newtfmpage.com/forum/29882.12.53.44.html , which lists atrocious movies of Sivaji!
  
  
• From: raja m (@ 67.87.27.19) on: Thu Apr 8 07:31:05 EDT 2004
  
  Idhayam Pesinaal was ideal for VJ's range. Is this movie a remake of Muqaddar ka Sikandar?
  
  
• From: Saravanan (@ 213.42.2.28) on: Thu Apr 8 11:49:01 EDT 2004
  
  aaha--wonderful! Thanks, bb :)
  
  A poignant song (Lyrics: Kannadasan), where melancholy manifests itself, not in heart-rending, hysterical outbursts, but in dignified, mature expression--and this precisely is where VJ fits in so perfectly-the intense, brooding tone of the song strikes the right chord--simply elegant, elegantly simple!
  
  The bravely controlled sobs that hide behind 'iravil vedhanai', and the wry reflection that follows with 'vidindhadhum sindhanai', the wistful elongated 'mElE' in the repetition of 'thamarai panjanai mele' and the concluding ultimatum 'irundhaal unnudan, illaiyel naanillai'--emotional moments of hushed angst.
  
  Btw, I have been fortunate to listen to VJ sing this song in person--sheer bliss!
  
  Remaking Amitabh's blockbuster Muqqadar Ka Sikandar was a good idea, but to rope in Sivaji to play the title role was hara-kiri. Not even the presence of Madhavi and Sripriya could salvage Viswanathan Combines' Amarakaviyam- 1981 from biting the dust.
  
  However, MSV's music was as good as ever, and his friends Kannadasan & Vaali, and his singers- TMS, SPB, PS, SJ, VJ, LRE and SPS put in their best efforts for him. Both the versions of 'Selvame--orey mugam paarkiren eppothum' (SPS/ TMS), the remarkable ' kaadhal andha moondrezhuthu inikkim' (where there is a rare combination of SPB, LRE and SJ singing in unision), 'Vaaiyya raja--vaasal thirandhirukku' ( PS in her elements--listen to her shift the pallavi to a dreamy 'vaaiya raja--roja malarndhirukku'), 'manithan oruvan thaan sirikka therindhavan' ( a suprisingly underplaying TMS) and 'than vaanathai theduthu oru nilavu' that progresses to 'aasaiyenum noolil aadi varum bommai' (soulful SJ, with quintessential SPB) are all songs that deserved a better film.
  
  
• From: Naaz (@ 24.87.30.219) on: Thu Apr 8 13:05:11 EDT 2004
  
  Aasaigalin Pinnalile Azhagin Sodhanai...
  
  The crux of the song. As internal monologue, the lyrics chart a vocal silence.
  What would this heart tell you if it spoke? Would it tell you about the thousand jostling thoughts within? Could moving lips capture the torpor of desire? Isn't speechlessness more profound?
  
  Yet, the heart talks, even if only to itself. A silence broken into song. Consoling, but never enough to fully keep at bay thoughts of consummation. Such simple and straightforward murmurs of deferred copulation. The testy moments of overarching love, separation, dreams of togetherness and endless sessions of sensuality and sex...
  
  Kannadasan is in his element here. The song unravels as a plot. It is an(in)active plan fuelled by yearning, and the progression is staged in pivotal "symbolic" steps -
  
  Oru Naal Vaanile Vennila Vandhadhu - That's how it all began. The moon the universal light of romance.
  
  Nadaga Medaiyai Pole Indha Pennin Kanavugal - Here's how it all "played" out, these dreams on the heart stage. The "enactment" is again an internal night without end. The use of the procenium as a percipice from which thoughts of love-making leap into reality. Kannadasan's metaphor is both literary and literal (symbolism made tangible. The "inner" and "outer" stage (heart as stage, stage as heart) is employed with poetic mastery.
  
  Thamarai Panjanai Mele Anbu Changam Koottuvom...
  
  A symposium of two. The play is moves into that realm of actuality. Hero and Heroine are in place.
  The moon shines. The stage is set. Let the exploration of physical desire begin.
  
  In just three stanzas: The heart speaks. The mind visualises. The body enacts.
  
  A multitude of emotions and a framework of needs.
  
  Aasaigalin Pinnalile Azhagin Sodhanai
  
  KD first half. VJ the other half.
  MSV the link between truth and beauty.
  
  
  (bb, I don't remember what I said about this song in the YN thread. But I am pretty sure that it must have been something nice.)
  
  
  
• From: bb (@ 24.6.216.148) on: Fri Apr 9 03:01:16 EDT 2004
  
  Song of the Day: nallavan enakku naanE nallavan from padiththaal mattum pOdhumaa.
  
  http://www.newtfmpage.com/cgi-bin/stream.pl?url=http://www.dhool.com/sotd/nallavan.rm
  
  - Sung by P.B.Srinivas and TMS. Music by Viswanathan-Ramamoorthy. One of the few songs with PBS/TMS combination.
  
  - This song is one of my favorites from that era, due to its rhythm. In particular, the starting of each charanam with a new beat is refreshing. The song must have been a definite dance number in its time.
  
  - The film was directed by Bhimsingh, and boasts of songs like "peN ondru kaNdEn" and "naan kavignanum illai".
  
  
• From: vengayam (@ 203.197.203.98) on: Fri Apr 9 04:03:10 EDT 2004
  
  a big thumbs up for this song!
  
  
• From: Saravanan (@ 213.42.2.28) on: Fri Apr 9 08:59:17 EDT 2004
  
  If I remember right, Sivaji and Balaji sing this song in the forest, along with a group of gypsies.
  Feet-tapping beat, with PBS and TMS sounding buoyant and youthful-- I hear A.L Raghavan in the humming along with another voice- perhaps GKV?
  
  Ranganathan Pics' Padithaal Mattum Podhuma-1962 starred Sivaji, Balaji, Muthuraman, Savitri, Rajasulochana, S.V.Rangarao, M.R.Radha, A.Karunanidhi, S.V.Sahasranamam, B.Kannamba, M.V.Rajamma, Manorama and others.
  
  Based on a Bengali film, it was a heartwarming story of an illiterate, good-hearted Gopal(Sivaji) who dotes on his elder cousin brother, the educated Raju (Balaji). Raju too reciprocates the affection, but when he sees Seetha (Savitri) who is to wed Gopal, he falls in love with her. And in order to attain her, he unscrupulously sets loose a chain of events that plays havoc with Gopal's life, forcing Gopal to marry the highly educated Meena (Rajasulochana). Of course Raju pays for his treachery in the end.
  
  The obscure lyricist Mayavanathan wove poetry in his lyrics for the song 'Thannilavu theniraikka (PS), while Kannadasan wrote the remaining songs in the film: Besides the SOTD, 'Ponnondru kanden' (TMS/PBS), 'Naan kavignanum illai' (TMS), 'Oho ho manithargale' (TMS), 'Annan kaattiya vazhiyamma'(TMS), and the seldom heard 'Kaalam seitha komaalithanathil ulagam pirandhadhu(PBS/ALR)
  
  
  
• From: Cinema Virumbi (@ 203.197.220.196) on: Fri Apr 9 09:26:51 EDT 2004
  
  
  Saravanan,
  
  One small tidbit about Maayavanaathan! VM narrated this in the Tamil New Year Programme in Apr 1998 in Sun TV.
  
  Once, in 'MaRakka mudiyumaa?', the MD TK Ramamurthy delayed giving the tune to lyricist Maayavanaathan, who was getting impatient and angry. TKR , equally known for losing his temper, in turn, shouted ' ennayyaa periya tune? Maayavanaathan, Maayavanaathan, Maayavanaathan, Maayavanaathan-idhaanya tune, pOyyaa!'
  and the lyricist went off confused and angry! Then Kalaignar himself wrote the entire song, 'Kaagitha Odam, kadalalai meethu pOvathu pOlE moovarum pOvOm' . Now , you try the entire song to this tune! It will exactly match!
  
  

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