Topic started by fan (@ 202.9.149.28) on Sat Aug 25 09:51:58 EDT 2001.
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everybody knows that spb is the greatest ever in India. How does he rank among other comparable singers in the world. net friends please provide information on this so that spb's place in the world is properly analysed and known. also net friends are spread throughout the universe and they must have first hand knowledge.
Responses:
- From: Nallavanukku nallavan (@ 195.92.67.68)
on: Sat Aug 25 15:41:11 EDT 2001
SPB, what comes to mind when you say the word "SPB". His most divine voice, his humble & bubbly personality, what else.
Well, SPB started his career in 1966 in telugu film,but he never had any muscical training , since then this genius had never looked back, today he is the greatest singer in India, How & what makes SPB stands the tallest out all other singers?, well number of things;
1) His voice is par excellence, he is liked by toddler to a grandad!!!
2) Ability to express emotions extremely well(although TMS & M.rafi were good at this, their voice was not as amazing as SPB's gem voice
3) Without any musical training, the great ability to hold his breath for a very long time! ( mannil intha kadhal enndri, satham illa tha thani mai ketten)
4) SPB is like Sivaji when it comes to Singing, You will just have to tell him the tune once, he would grasp it extremely quickly (commented by MSV,KVM & IR), he then adds his unique style, hence he enchances the song with his magical voice.
5) Ability to sing from high pitch to low pitch, singing from low to high is quite normal, but not from high to low ; eg "veedham athanilum oru naadham", from salangai oli, when he starts frm "gaa ma ne, ga ma ka sa maga sa nee, ne tha pa mane sa,......", & "shankaraaaaa" from the great shankaraparanam, when he brings "aaaaaaa" from high to low, amazing
5) ability to sing any types of songs, but most(99%) other singers like, KJY,M.Rafi,KK,TMS,.... , whose talents are limited, KJY is excellent only in devotional & sad songs, TMS can not sing at low pitches, KK sounds like IR some times, M.rafi could not rock!!
I conclude by saying SPB is gift from god & in valuable treasure to India, se is proud to have this genius SPB as her son!
Baratha mathaki jai!!!
- From: MS (@ 129.252.25.204)
on: Sat Aug 25 17:07:46 EDT 2001
Hey..please stop making new threads everyday on SPB. SPB is worth all the praises and deserves more. But be patient / smart enough to find appropriate threads to eulogize him rather than open anew thread every now and then u decide to praise him.
- From: fan (@ 202.9.147.140)
on: Sat Aug 25 23:46:35 EDT 2001
ms, this is a unique thread and invites comparison from the rest in the world and not in India. This is a thread for worldly people with worldly knowledge.understand.
- From: evvano oruthan (@ 195.92.67.67)
on: Sun Aug 26 04:32:58 EDT 2001
MS;
The reason for many threads abt SPB, is because this guy is genius, he is the don in IFM. why don't you look at other silly thread abt YSR, shanker-loy & all that crap ?
- From: rafi (@ 210.18.7.188)
on: Sun Aug 26 05:18:09 EDT 2001
mr nalavannuku nallavan
//kjy is good only for devotional and sad songs//
pity on u for your limited knowledge! don't comment on singers unless u have heard all songs(atleast a majority of them!)SPB is one of the greatest india has produced...i repeat one of the greatest..................
- From: Music_fan (@ 195.92.65.211)
on: Mon Aug 27 12:39:50 EDT 2001
SPB to be conferred 'Sangeeth Ganga' award for 2001 by the Bangalore organization of the same name. The previous recipients of the award include PB Sreenivas, RK Srikantan, etc.
- From: Raguvaran (@ 212.2.14.241)
on: Tue Aug 28 05:17:05 EDT 2001
Rafi;
KJY is limited no doubt, KJY can not modulate as well as SPB, (well no one can), KJY can not express emotions through his voice(apart from devotional, which he is very good at), he can not rock, he looses control at high pitches, his bass is not as heavy as spb's, he has not got a unique style of singing like SPB, nevertheless I do have great respect for KJY after SPB.
KJY is poper carnatic boffin, where else SPB is all "self taught", yet spb is capable as KJY when it comes to carnatic, may be even better than KJY!
- From: man (@ 202.144.73.33)
on: Tue Aug 28 06:03:31 EDT 2001
spb is the greatest..
- From: Raguvaran (@ 212.2.14.241)
on: Tue Aug 28 07:49:31 EDT 2001
Thanx man;
Although 99.9% agree with the fact "SPB is the greatest singer in IFM", the 0.01% ignorants do not agree with that, what shall we do abt this, man
- From: Raguvaran (@ 212.2.14.241)
on: Wed Aug 29 08:01:10 EDT 2001
Has any body heard "raagamum athan thalammum, nayaghan un pokal paada", by SPB?, where drags "aaaaa" for a very long time, amazing?, does anyone know which film its is from & MD for that film, pls?
- From: Real SPB fan (@ 64.124.150.139)
on: Wed Aug 29 09:55:25 EDT 2001
Oh God!! Here we go again!!
- From: Raguvaran (@ 212.2.14.241)
on: Thu Aug 30 04:56:17 EDT 2001
real spb fan;
Wht's wrong with u man, I was just asking a question, that's all!!!
- From: Laxman (@ 24.218.133.196)
on: Thu Aug 30 19:41:25 EDT 2001
Idiots. Stop creating SPB threads every other day and embarrassing REAL SPB fans. You do not know how to argue and you do NOT know ANYTHING about other singers Indian or otherwise.
- From: Raguvaran (@ 212.2.14.241)
on: Fri Aug 31 05:52:54 EDT 2001
Laxman;
May be you should open a thread abt how great you are!
- From: fan (@ 202.9.148.38)
on: Fri Aug 31 06:19:08 EDT 2001
raguvaran, mr laxman is the greatest tfm user in the world. ok
- From: Real SPB fan (@ 64.124.150.138)
on: Fri Aug 31 08:40:13 EDT 2001
chappaaththi chappaaththi thaan rotti rotti thaan...
- From: Raguvaran (@ 212.2.14.241)
on: Fri Aug 31 09:00:43 EDT 2001
Real SPB fan;
Can you translate your above phrase in English, pls???
- From: Real SPB fan (@ 64.124.150.142)
on: Fri Aug 31 09:50:21 EDT 2001
Raguvaran:
You do not need to waste your time by starting so many SPB threads and boring even real SPB fans. I think TFM Administration should disable you.
- From: sriram (@ 203.199.155.137)
on:
everybody knows that spb is the greatest ever in India
As a cook or a gardener? Or a mechanic? or a potter :-)
- From: evvano oruthan (@ 195.92.67.69)
on: Sat Sep 1 12:57:34 EDT 2001
SPB is class of it's won, who can not be compared with other singers in IFM, I agree KJY have done similar achievement (40K songs), but KJY is not multi talented as SPB, KJY is limited, but SPB is unlimited, KJY lacks SPB's excellent Bass & punch, but KJY is also great.
We have consider the fact that, KJY,BMK,UK,SMD,Mano,HH have learnt carnatic, apart from HH who learnt Ghazzels, But what did SPB learn?, nothing, It's all self taught, Are you saying that is not amazing???.
Ghantasala , KJY or BMK would not have sung Shankaraparanam better than SPB, these singers lack modulation & expressing emotions, Can you pls tell me one singer in India, who is better than SPB in expressing emotions (I mean "navarasam").
SPB has also talked for certain actors like Kamal, Mohan, NR, etc films, SPB's voice is same heavy voice as he sings in, Can you tell me any other singer who sounds the same when speaks as well as sing???, I can not think of any, take KJY 4 eg, he sounds different when he talks, than when he sings!
Most of KJY's songs are "devotional" & "carnatic", but Majority of SPB's songs are cinema songs.
TMS was good at modulation, but no where near SPB, he could not sing any carnatic songs, he often sounded bad at low pitches, since his voice is very good at High pitches.
I think Balamurali Krishna, Ghantasala & SPB have some thing common in thier voices, but SPB has the deepest bass out of all them.
Thanx
- From: rf (@ 152.163.204.62)
on: Sat Sep 1 14:10:17 EDT 2001
my faVorite SPB songs:
Kamban Yemandhaal (MSV)
Nandavanathil (IR)
Hey Orayiram (IR)
Nanda Yen Nila (VDakshinamoorthy)
Amazing range and show of prowess in each of these songs.
- From: Real SPB fan (@ 64.124.150.138)
on: Sat Sep 1 16:07:53 EDT 2001
evvano oruththan:
chappaaththi chappaaththi thaan rotti rotti thaan.
- From: Nallavanukku nallavan (@ 195.92.67.71)
on: Sun Sep 2 04:35:33 EDT 2001
I agree with both of you in most extent, but to be honest, I was not born when ghantasala was around, though I have many of his songs, I feel he lacks the punch & bass, but SPB is superior to Ghantasala in these aspects, I also feel, That SPB's expression outstands all singers in IFM, I also feel that SPB's voice has very deep bass & punch than of ghantasala.but nevertheless ghantasala was great but not the greatest.
I also agree that being multillingual does not make an individual any better singer, ghantasala was restricted strictly to "telugu" &"tamil", where else SPB is multillingual, that does not make SPB any better than any singers in IFM, but SPB is the greatest out of all singers in IFM, I have heard M.rafi,KJY,Kishor,TMS, PBS,Ghantasala, B.murali Krsihna,M.vasudevan,mano, hariharan, Uk,Shanker.Kumar sanu, Udit narayan,sonu nigam
All of these lack a lot of abilities of SPB, KJY was around for more time than SPB(atleaset 6 years more than SPB), but he also lack something of SPB,
SPB is excellent in Carnatic, even though he knows nothing of carnatic.
SPB is unique class of it's own!!!, no body can conquer SPB
- From: Real SPB fan (@ 64.124.150.133)
on: Sun Sep 2 10:18:11 EDT 2001
chappaaththi chappaaththi thaan rotti rotti thaan....
- From: Raguvaran (@ 212.2.14.241)
on: Mon Sep 3 07:31:41 EDT 2001
Hello;
who ever (idiots) question me abt DHCP, here is a detail, explanation of DHCP. Pls do not bring this issue again in this thread, cos this thread is abt SPB.
>>
Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol (DHCP) is a communications protocol that lets network administrators manage centrally and automate the assignment of Internet Protocol (IP) addresses in an organization's network. Using the Internet Protocol, each machine that can connect to the Internet needs a unique IP address. When an organization sets up its computer users with a connection to the Internet, an IP address must be assigned to each machine. Without DHCP, the IP address must be entered manually at each computer and, if computers move to another location in another part of the network, a new IP address must be entered. DHCP lets a network administrator supervise and distribute IP addresses from a central point and automatically sends a new IP address when a computer is plugged into a different place in the network.
DHCP uses the concept of a "lease" or amount of time that a given IP address will be valid for a computer. The lease time can vary depending on how long a user is likely to require the Internet connection at a particular location. It's especially useful in education and other environments where users change frequently. Using very short leases, DHCP can dynamically reconfigure networks in which there are more computers than there are available IP addresses.
DHCP supports static addresses for computers containing Web servers that need a permanent IP address.
DHCP is an alternative to another network IP management protocol, Bootstrap Protocol (BOOTP). DHCP is a more advanced protocol, but both configuration management protocols are commonly used. Some organizations use both protocols, but understanding how and when to use them in the same organization is important. Some operating systems, including Windows NT/2000, come with DHCP servers. A DHCP or BOOTP client is a program that is located in (and perhaps downloaded to) each computer so that it can be configured.
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- From: Real SPB fan (@ 64.124.150.141)
on: Mon Sep 3 09:22:49 EDT 2001
chappaaththi chappaaththi thaan rotti rotti thaan....
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