Topic started by James (@ ppp-33.ts-12.nyc.idt.net) on Thu Oct 9 19:41:18 EDT 1997.
All times in EDT +9:30 for IST.
Responses:
- From: james (@ ppp-37.ts-14.nyc.idt.net)
on: Thu Oct 9 19:50:11 EDT 1997
hello friends, this page is for very brief intros and can be considered an exclusive internet club for tamil film music lovers.I'll start:
Name: James (actual name differs, too long)
profession : physician
Likes: ARR songs,and well picturised songs.Like to collect cd's, laser discs and good video movies.
live in New york.
I wish to WELCOME ALL OF you.
- From: Kitcha (@ dhcp232-184.eel.ufl.edu)
on: Thu Oct 9 20:14:23 EDT 1997
Hi James:
Welcome!!!!
endru Kitcha...
(ref: TFM HAS CREATED NUMEROUD WEB ADDICTS...;-)
- From: Kanchana (@ ww-td65.proxy.aol.com)
on: Thu Oct 9 20:32:40 EDT 1997
James--a request for clarification:
Do you wish us to repeat our profiles here? We did intros once before in the thread Kitcha has mentioned above.
- From: Rajaraman (@ 192.122.136.148)
on: Thu Oct 9 21:32:33 EDT 1997
We don't need to do intro again. (I'll try compile the bios of
all forum fans and make it easily accessible soon.)
This topic about the idea of forming a TFM lovers club.
Do you think it's a good idea? If yes, what do we do to
make it happen? If the idea materialises, what possible
things can we do with the club?
- From: aruLarasan (@ bh33404.umsl.edu)
on: Fri Oct 10 13:38:03 EDT 1997
One thing that comes to my mind is to do what GTRajan did just a
couple of weeks ago. We can exchange/supply music cassettes, CDs. etc.
One more thing would be to form a kind of TFM library by collecting
books, articles etc which some of us already do in an unorganized fashion.
James's (am i correct) idea of sponsoring concerts, music
programs seems a good idea but for the formidable logistics. A major
contribution will be deciphering the TFM as we were/are doing in
the "Shall we share notes of TFM to play on the KB" thread.
More later.
- From: Shyam kumar (@ 192.147.35.56)
on: Fri Oct 10 14:00:34 EDT 1997
Not a bad idea.
Useful for those who are outside India.
Since I am in U.S. I want to know who are in my nearby place North virginia. It might not only be useful for arranging Concerts. If we meet then we can talk a lot rather than just write to some one whom you don't know at all. May be that guy will be in the next door.
For the new comers like me. Make a small box and ask us to enter the name, address and contact no. and maintain the list.
Or
If someone is having the lasting list please let me know.
- From: cp (@ 208.206.24.27)
on: Fri Oct 10 15:07:12 EDT 1997
I would like to suggest some possibilities:
Since we are all spread across the world, exchanging casettes and books seems to be quite distant. We can set up a web page where we can upload songs weekly like "ungal viruppam" where the songs to be uploaded can be decided by the club depending on the first come first basis and majority vote by members by email and also the availability of the songs. People who have songs which others want to hear can convert them to audio files and provide it to TFM club. We can also set up an online discussion forum(chat) where only TFM club members are allowed to discuss and exchange information. If it is going to cost $$$, we can discuss about sharing that amongst TFM club members. This will need a lot of planning, commitment and trust among our members. Things can be eased if we get sponsors for the TFM club website. On the other hand people in the same region can interact with each other and exchange cassettes and other info.
- From: James (@ ppp-24.ts-7.nyc.idt.net)
on: Fri Oct 10 16:38:55 EDT 1997
Excellent idea CP! I,m glad that we are exchanging so many new ideas.
so are we going to call this a TFM club top ten weekly countdown? how do we go about setting this up and we also have to get a list where we can keep track of all our members and hve some passwords so that only we could log on etc.
also how about dividing this into different chapters..ie malasia chapter can be headed By our friend NOV, and the US and India chapters can be assigned to different groups of people who live in close proximity to each other.
we should also have a list of things that can be accomplished by this club.
more later.
- From: james (@ ppp-24.ts-7.nyc.idt.net)
on: Fri Oct 10 16:58:58 EDT 1997
This is James again. i would like to take this oppurtunity to wish all our Hindu TFM "club" members on the occasion of AYUDHA POOJA today.
I hope that everyone will listen to a special song of their choice today.(at times like this i wonder what is going on with those 'ungal vrrupam' guys?)
- From: cp (@ 208.206.24.27)
on: Fri Oct 10 17:24:31 EDT 1997
Wish you the same, James. Let us also wait for others' input on TFM club. My favourite song not only for ayudha pooja but forever is "Janani Janani jagam nee agam nee" in Thai moogambikai.
- From: Kanchana (@ ww-te65.proxy.aol.com)
on: Fri Oct 10 17:58:32 EDT 1997
Rajaraman:
I have compiled and e-mailed the profiles of all of those who had introduced themselves in the other "social" thread. Please use it as you see fit--hope it helps this cause.
- From: cp (@ 208.206.24.27)
on: Fri Oct 10 17:59:01 EDT 1997
Hi TFM club members,
I caught up with a web site which gives a chat site with all options at $18 for 6 months. Please take a look at this website:
http://www.tripod.com/planet/membership/premium/chat/
- From: Kitcha (@ dhcp232-173.eel.ufl.edu)
on: Fri Oct 10 18:56:11 EDT 1997
Kanchana:
Let me have a look at that profile list too!!
- From: Rajaraman (@ 192.122.132.143)
on: Fri Oct 10 23:19:37 EDT 1997
The profiles are available at
http://www.iti.gov.sg/staff/kanagasa/tfm/tfmclub.html
I want ppl to send in their date of birth's also, if
it's not too private.
Thanks Kanchana for compiling the details.
- From: Gopal (@ host-207-53-5-153.atl.bellsouth.net)
on: Sun Oct 12 01:45:21 EDT 1997
Nice to see the profile work. But I wish to differ as regards the profile - tfm preferences section!!
What does "IR fan" mean??. Does that mean that I/we do not appreciate other MDs music?? I love MSVs music and I have mentioned that in the newtfmpage!!! I have also mentioned my preferences as regards ARR!! Likewise there are other guys who love other MDs too!! The observation"IR fan" seems to be biased.
2. Look at this:: IR fan who tolerates ARR !!! What does this mean?? Is this to convince and pep up the spirit of IR fans??This is not required. On the one side, "IR fans could tolerate other MDs". On the other side" MSV fans selectively appreciate other MDs also". So I see IR falling in the also ran bandwagon of MDs !!!!! The words/phrases, "tolerate", "who selectively appreciates other MDs works" ,etc., could be avoided!!
3. I personally think this "preferences" section leads to conflicts. More and more conflicts!! A club to unite the music lovers need not bring forth such sensitive/intrinsic differences that enhances the platform to a higher plane with conflicts, highlighted!!!!!! I mean, the preferences section is only a hindrance for us to get together !!!!!
I dont wish someone calling me"IR Fan, ARR hater, also IR, selectively IR," kind of observations!!!
4. We are "one" under the newtfmpage banner, I presume, already!! Top ten for the week can be discussed here!! NOV can take care of the Malaysia regn. Aravind/Sathya Keerthi can take care of Singapore. The going is already great with the kind of enthu and work the newtfmpage organizers have been inputting!! Thanks to TFM page! Bones, GTR and I are good friends! I think that takes care of the club concept ! Right?!! Any exercise beyond this is mere puffed up show work besides an intractable 32nd parallel?!
Better lets avoid this!! Better status quo !!!!!
James, trust my opinion supra is clear!!
- From: Rajaraman (@ 192.122.132.143)
on: Sun Oct 12 09:53:09 EDT 1997
Gopal,
I certainly don't think Saying "IR fan" means
he/she hates MSV or ARR. It just states his/her
preferences.
Similarly I think "IR fan who tolerates ARR" is
meant to be taken in a lighter vein.
If many of you feel this is giving the wrong idea,
let's make everyone send in the way he/she
wants the profile to appear.
I don't feel this has to be a major hindrance
to forming a club. Isn't unity possible under
diversity?
- From: Kanchana (@ 152.163.206.236)
on: Sun Oct 12 11:01:29 EDT 1997
Explanation has been demanded and needs to be given re the TFM Preferences section:
words "tolerates", "fans", "also appreciate others" were taken directly out of the self-introductions, and were not product of the compiler's imagination or judgment. If you any of you wish to revise the way you presented yourself in the "INTROS" page, please feel free to do so. Thank you.
- From: Kitcha (@ cse-211-h05.circa.ufl.edu)
on: Sun Oct 12 13:29:04 EDT 1997
Kanchana:
Yes you could have been more specific....atleast in my case where you could have used adjectives like " die hard" or" hardcore" or even "marana"
:-)
Anyway kudos to a job well done...Thanks a lot.
PS: What about adding e-mail id's ????? Just a suggestion!
- From: NOV (@ 202.184.134.10)
on: Mon Oct 13 04:24:10 EDT 1997
Kanchana - Congratulations and Thank You for a job well done! I printed it out for my wife to read and she really enjoyed it. Please do not be disheartened by any discouraging remarks and carry on with your thondu! :-)
Gopal - I am sorry that I have to do this to you, my pal. But I would like to reproduce what you had said in an earlier posting (Please don't take offense!)
From: Gopal (@ host-207-53-4-222.atl.bellsouth.net) on: Tue Sep 23 11:32:39 EDT 1997
Ravi, If i am a true IR fan, then I should not buy combo cds// becos, according to IR, isai aathmaarthamaanadhu!!!!ManasilayE kettukkalaam! After having listened to IR songs, till now, I think inimE vEru yaarudaya musickayum kEtkka mudiyaathu!! InimE "aathmaarthamaanadhu" enru solli thappividavEndiyadhudhaan!!!
Rajaraman - Certainly. Unity can only thrive in diversity! I'm sure you have heard this quotation: When two people agree all the time, one of them is unnecessary! I look upon the TFM pages as a tea stall, where we are all gathered with our own preferences, opinions and biases. We discuss things in general, tease one another and generally have lots of fun. Why do you think that the TFM page is so addictive? :-)) We are careful not to hurt each others feelings but test the waters now and then!!! After exchanging opinions among ourselves and getting used to each others' idiocrasies, it is only natural that we want to take it a bit further and the so-called club begins to take shape! BTW, thanks James for making me the thondar-illaatha-thalaivan! As far as I know, I am the only one posting from Colourful Malaysia!
Thru the TFM pages, I met Chandrasekaran and his wife (such nice people!) from Singapore recently. I am indeed grateful to TFM page maintainers for this and hope to meet up with Aravind, Satya Keerti and Rajaraman soon. Cheers to the TFM trio!
Kitcha - I think e-mail id's are unnecessary as people who want communication are already "clickable!" Also thanx to TFM page for giving me a thambi in Kitcha! :-)))
- From: Rajaraman (@ 192.122.132.143)
on: Mon Oct 13 10:43:39 EDT 1997
Profiles of GP, CP, E.Hari updated.
NOV, yours too.
- From: cp (@ 208.206.24.27)
on: Mon Oct 13 12:37:58 EDT 1997
Hello All,
What do you say about TFM exclusive club? I have also given suggestions about such a club.
I don't see any responses after that. Do you all really like to start a club or can we go ahead with this TFM page and continue as before. Atleast I expect some responses for this posting.
- From: Gopal (@ host-207-53-5-116.atl.bellsouth.net)
on: Mon Oct 13 12:39:20 EDT 1997
NOV::
I reiterate. Beyond Ilays music, there is nothing else for me to listen !! But why dint you pick up and post other observations of mine as regards MSV and ARR?? I have told in another thread that "I was and am a great lover of MSVs music and have great songs of his. It took almost five/six long years for me to accept IR after his entry into the tfm........" In another instance, I have appreciated ARR as a very good MD and have told that I have his collections up to date quoting "kaalathin kattayam". Its beyond these MDs that
IR flourishes and may be thats where I had tried to stay put!! And some cannot digest that fact about IR. You cannot blame anyone for that!! Thats just the way it is!!
Last, I am not a guy to throw spanners in the work NOV!!There are enough conflicts around us!! Why wrangle even in thin air?? I look forward to healthy, democratic, fun-filled tfm discussions as we have had !!
Kanchana
There aint a soul on earth without differences! But that need not come in our way! I am only constructively involved, to say. Just dont hesitate to air the ideas! We shall work it out! The Bio is good enough without the preferences, as we all know each other's preferences, it need not be written, thats how I felt! (The fun is,
without this preferences section, the profile is nothing!!!)Yet,if TFMG thinks the other way, so be it!! Lets get on with the "tfm club on net"
business!! This subject is no more a bone to pick with, i presume !!
Seeya!!
- From: Shyam (@ 206.27.66.3)
on: Mon Oct 13 13:54:10 EDT 1997
I saw the page http://www.iti.gov.sg/staff/kanagasa/tfm/tfmclub.html
It is asking to enter the following information.
* Name, Date of birth(optional)
* TFM preferences
* Occupation
* Location/ Country
* Personal info, if given
* Other interests
* Alma Mater(s)
Above one is not maintained properly.
I want to know whether they are interested to be contacted by some one in TFM. Atleast those who are interested should get the option in the panel to update this, other can just work in TFM.
Most of us accessing this page TFM are to share the feelings, to guide others to make a nice collection of songs, to get the collections, to know the movie name of a song, after accessing for a long time we may become friends and instead of chating directly we do it in this + for so many reason we acess this page.
If we are really interested share our feeling we can give even email id in the list.
Please do something and make the list and maintain it area wise.
- From: Gokul (@ 204.76.131.140)
on: Mon Oct 13 15:34:18 EDT 1997
TFM Guys:
My profile initially said IR-Fan. Now I see it is
changed to Good TF Music.
What is the reason for this change?
If the TFM club could do something different
, constructive (I really dont know to what extent
we can do to organize concerts and stuff like
bcos of geographical constraints.) it would be
a good idea.
- From: TFM Group (@ 192.122.135.224)
on: Mon Oct 13 21:44:31 EDT 1997
The idea of this compilation is to make
a collated list of we "forumers" for easy
reference and build upon it to reach our
target -- TFM Club. The initial list done by
Kanchana was to facilitate this process.
What's in the list is not meant to give
wrong idea about your personality.
However, if you feel so, pl suggest the
changes.
We have a long way to go, let's not quarell
at the gate.
p.s: Apologies to Gokul, it must have been
some mistake in global substitution. It's been
removed now. Pl tell us how you want your
preferences to appear.
- From: NOV (@ 202.184.134.10)
on: Tue Oct 14 05:23:32 EDT 1997
cp - As mentioned before, your idea is very good. An exclsive TFM club ... hmmmm. My two-cents worth. All these realaudio and such is greek to me (I have not dowloaded anything - I don't even know how to!). Anyway, I have access to any songs that I want to listen either through our local radio or at the music stores. So that idea is not particularly appealing to me. But if you can teach me how to do it, I don't mind putting on any song for all of you.
A top ten among the few of us, with such varied tastes!-)) doesn't seem to be very practical. Of course I could be very wrong. Borrowing Gopal's phrase, I don't wish to throw a spanner in the works but how would the private chat room differ from our present forum? Probably not everyone can gain access to it and make stupid and nonsensical statements, you could say. But my heart swells with pride on how every discussant handles such guys - simply by ignoring the immature remarks and refusing to react to them (for instance the statements on IR and the guitar). In that example I was hoping that no one would comment and true enough nobody did! Shabash to all discussants with so much restraint!!
I gave a suggestion to Aravind that the Singapore chapter of TFM can take turns to visit each others' house during weekends on a rotation basis. The lucky guys - just living within a 50 mile radius! Wouldn't it be great if all of us could get together once a year? Yeah, yeah horse and beggars.... :-))))
- From: cp (@ 208.206.24.27)
on: Tue Oct 14 12:35:36 EDT 1997
NOV:
Thanks for the response. CHAT is the discussion forum real-time. You need not wait for others to respond. But, the problem is that all of us won't get the chance to discuss at the same time because of different time-zones. Probably we can set times for discussions on various topics and everyone can try to meet at some time. Or depending on the region the times can be organized for those people to meet. This is not as impressive as the discussion forum because points discussed cannot be saved. The only advantage is that you can chat with that person as if you are speaking with him/her over phone. Access to a chat forum can be restricted by various means(registering users, giving passwords etc.) Moreover you can ignore a user if he is making unnecessary comments.
Regarding audio files on the Internet if you have a PC with multi-media capability you can convert songs from CD to wav or audio files using some downloadable software available on the Internet. I suggested this because if someone wishes to hear a song he/she is longing, then a club member who has that song can convert it and upload onto the WEB.
For "ungal viruppam" - the way it can be organized should be discussed among club members.
Meeting people in the same area depends on the region where you are living. In US, it is difficult to meet people as the country is very vast.
Right now I feel that the only feasible solution is to exchange cassettes and info with people in the same area by interacting with them. This is also a totally personal preference.
To All:
I do not see responses from everyone regarding this club. Why can't we vote? How many people like to join this club?
Please write your choice. If the majority says OK, we can think of doing something, otherwise let us drop this idea. What do you say James?
- From: aruLarasan (@ psiphi.umsl.edu)
on: Tue Oct 14 13:21:41 EDT 1997
Hi y'all.
Some cents. An association should have some objectives before it
is formed. Therefore it is important to figure out what we would like
to do together. Most of the things suggested are either formidable
mainly because of the the distributed location of us TFM lovers or
redundant in the sense that we are already doing these in this discussion
group. Only new thing we can do is to meet people personally and that
too is possible only for a small set of people. As far as I see,
the things we can do together are
(i) collect articles and books related to TFM and form a library (old
style or electronic)
(ii) collect songs and exchange. efficient way is to do it electronically.
(iii) decipher TFM and make it available to every one.
I think all of this can be better done in this discussion forum and
newtfmpage. Beyond this, everything else seems to be possible only locally.
And I don't see, then, what we would like to accomplish.
Correct me if I am wrong.
cheers.
- From: cp (@ 208.206.24.27)
on: Tue Oct 14 17:53:41 EDT 1997
People who are interested in chatting with tamil film music lovers - please take a look at the website I have mentioned at the end of this posting. The website mentions about creating a free chat forum for registered ICQ users. ICQ is a very high-tech communication software that can be installed with minimal effort with can be used to interact with people logged onto to the Internet. Whenever a person installs ICQ, he is given an ICQ UIN(unique identification number).
We can have one-to-one communication with ICQ users (an ICQ user has to authorize another ICQ user who has to request the former to register him/her in his contact list). If anyone is interested, please go through the home
page www.mirabilis.com for details. As an ICQ user, I have contacted many friends in India and have chatted many times. Found it very useful!
Please click on the homepage http://www.mirabilis.com to know more about ICQ
or
http://www.mirabilis.com/icqchat/chatmaster.html to know about free chat forums(authorized access to known users only)
Arularasan:
We(myself & GP) also got to know GTR and became good friends. As you have mentioned we can also have a library(electronic).. There are lot of free web pages available in the net where we can post those information. But the problem is we should all decide where exactly we have to start and what could be done in future.
- From: Chandrasekaran (@ proxyf8.cyberway.com.sg)
on: Wed Oct 15 05:32:36 EDT 1997
I do not see any reason why some of us want to open a separate club. What is the idea of forming such a club ? Whats wrong with the present forum of discussion - except that it crashes on some ammavasai (no hard feelings, dear TFM Group). As mentioned by NOV, it is good if people in one area, say Singapore or New Jersey ... meet for a weekly / monthly chat in one place and it might build more relationships. Net-l thittu vaangama Naeril thittu vaangalam. May I suggest the following ?
We can think of grouping and fixing certain topics in the discussion forum, such as IR vs. ARR, Song Notes for KB (Oct 6-kku appuram yaarumae indha thread-i kandukkalae) , Song Lists (it can have sub-topics for Kannan, Raman, Onnu, Rendu, Moonu..song lists). This way TFM Group can avoid numerous people starting numerous threads - some unwanted, redundant etc.
Eppadi Idea ? Ungal Kuttukkaga en thalai-yum Shottukkaga en mudugum kaathukondiruku.
- From: aruLarasan (@ psiphi.umsl.edu)
on: Wed Oct 15 12:01:09 EDT 1997
Hi Chandra, (short for c.sekaran, hope you don't mind)
That's what I meant. Let's all help the newtfmpage maintainers to
come up with versions III. As they mentioned earlier, a dedicated
machine and IP address will meet all the demands. Personally, TFMP managers,
I am willing to make monetary contributions for the next version.
Please let me know how I can do it.
Cheers.
- From: Kannan (@ 130.160.32.68)
on: Wed Oct 15 17:11:59 EDT 1997
I think it's a good idea to start a club, but for guys like me(I live in Alabama), meeting other people personally is almost impossible. If the objectives of the club is helpful even to guys like me, then I don't mind joining the club. How about starting a chat room in TFM page. (we can get a free java-enabled chat room paralogic.com ) But, again guys who can't run java-applications would be left out. I am confused!
- From: James (@ ppp-19.ts-8.nyc.idt.net)
on: Wed Oct 15 18:19:44 EDT 1997
to cp : i agree with your suggestion taht people should vote because there are a lot of diverse ideas about the feasibility of this project in the conception stages itself.
to NOV: i have been primarily labelled as and arr fan and did not meen to offend you by not including IR songs in the "well picturised "thread.
i listened to primarily hindi film songs and english pop while iin college and it is only after i came to the US that i started listening to tamil music that too after my mom mailed me the Roja audio casette!! now you know why i find all your opinions and discussions valuable , I have to make up for lost time!!!
- From: Gokul (@ 204.76.131.140)
on: Wed Oct 15 18:33:11 EDT 1997
TFM Group:
No need to Apologise. I was just curious and
wanted to know what prompted the change. Thats all.
- From: NOV (@ 202.184.134.10)
on: Thu Oct 16 05:12:17 EDT 1997
James - I? Offended? Far from it. We are having a discussion aren't we? A bit of kindal here and there is perfectly alright - no fun without those!
BTW, I find it stange that you were not exposed to Tamil songs as opposed to Hindi & English songs. How could that be, unless you are a non-Thamizhan or live outside India?
- From: NOV (@ 202.184.134.10)
on: Fri Oct 17 21:47:26 EDT 1997
Guys and gals - I have been thinking seriously about the TFM club and just this morning a brilliant (to me atleast!) idea struck me. Why don't we come up with an annual journal (or something similar). Some of the items the publication can have:
1. A write-up on the formation of TFM Pages and the people behind it.
2. A section on PPP (This would make Satya Keerthi happy!)
3. Some articles on the great MDs of TFM such as IR, MSV, KVM, etc.
4. Some lists of interesting songs.
5. Reproduction of some of the exciting discussions such as on Kannadhasan, Kaadhal Paadalgal, etc.
6. Reviews of TFM
6. And off course profiles of all current "posters" to these pages. By having this publication as an annual affair, we can update and include more people.
HOWIZEET?
- From: james (@ ppp-16.ts-11.nyc.idt.net)
on: Fri Oct 17 21:53:36 EDT 1997
suuuper!!
- From: NOV (@ 202.184.134.10)
on: Fri Oct 17 21:59:49 EDT 1997
I forgot to mention that I have some (quite a bit actually) experience in doing publications. In fact I have the software (PageMaker) for it. I don't mind volunteering to coordinate it.
I need to know what the rest of you think about this.
- From: aruLarasan (@ psiphi.umsl.edu)
on: Sun Oct 19 13:23:27 EDT 1997
nov aNNaththE,
namma pangu endRum uNdu. this sounds one good idea. let's set
the ball rolling.
- From: Gopal (@ host-207-53-1-37.atl.bellsouth.net)
on: Sun Oct 19 23:57:33 EDT 1997
Guys
I was the editor of my house magazine in my erstwhile company. (1000 copies!!!)
Story,screenplay, dialog, direction ellam naandhEng!! So, listla peyarai pOttukonga!!Edhavadhu usefulla pannalaam!!
- From: NOV (@ 202.184.134.10)
on: Mon Oct 20 06:24:40 EDT 1997
Gopal - it looks like that we have more in common than just TFM only. At one point of time, I was writing, editing, designing and doing the page layout for my company's magazine, all in-house (2000 copies!!!) Later on, I went on to do our Annual Report as well (100 pages)
Anyway, let's wait and see what the rest of the "passanga" say about this.
- From: Gopi Santhanam (@ neesgate.neesnet.com)
on: Mon Oct 20 09:52:35 EDT 1997
count me in for any spare writing if you guys
are overloaded. You guys seem to know the ropes well for me to offer anything more constructive ...So if your plates are upto the brim I can do some soccuring.
- From: TRV (@ tvenkata.qualcomm.com)
on: Mon Oct 20 17:49:43 EDT 1997
Report pannardhu nalla idea thaan. En support
undu. If you guys want me to write something,
adhuvum mudiyum.
- From: Rajaraman (@ 192.122.135.224)
on: Mon Oct 20 21:40:30 EDT 1997
Publication idea nallaa irukku. But who'll bear
the cost of printing, making copies, distribution,
etc. ?
- From: Kanchana (@ ww-td61.proxy.aol.com)
on: Mon Oct 20 22:28:16 EDT 1997
If we can get a rough itemized estimate of the expenses, then we can discuss how to fund it. Is it a Catch-22 here--don't we roughly need to know how the "TFM Annual Report" is going to look in terms of content, layout & materials before costing?
- From: Gokul (@ 204.76.131.140)
on: Mon Oct 20 22:37:46 EDT 1997
Nov
Making a mag is a great idea. Really if it is
cost effective we should think of making it more
frequent than annual. Count me in..
- From: Aravind (@ 202.42.152.9)
on: Mon Oct 20 23:22:40 EDT 1997
TFMites in India can take the responsibility to print the magazine. The printing costs will defenitely be very cheap. Printing in Tamil will also be easy, if done in Tamilnadu.
The cost, I think should be volunteered by active TFMties around the globe.
- From: Kanchana (@ ww-tj64.proxy.aol.com)
on: Tue Oct 21 01:42:19 EDT 1997
Agree with Aravind that TFMites should pitch in, but it needs to be voluntary. If we see a $ or Rs. number which doesn't give a major "sticker-shock" I think several people will volunteer. Experts need to come up with an estimate?
- From: aruLarasan (@ bh33405.umsl.edu)
on: Tue Oct 21 11:42:29 EDT 1997
hi,
i am not sure but there is high possiblity that i will be able to
printing etc. at very low cost (just the raw materials). let me talk
to my folks back home (madras) and let you know the details.
till then let's decide about what to put in there. it will be great
if we could bring out something by jan '98.
cheers.
- From: Amar (@ worf.qntm.com)
on: Tue Oct 21 14:12:12 EDT 1997
Hi Gals & Guys,
Sounds like we have somehting up and running.
A journal or magazine for our TFM is a great idea.
My father was a journalist and I can ask him for
any questions, suggestions, ideas, etc. if we hit
a wall. But the process will be slow and the turnaround period will be long as I can only get info through regular mail.
As part of the publications, we can volunteer to come with different subjects of interest and write about it. I can see that a lot of you gals&guys are very knowledgeable about various things such as "gundalini", "music", "god", "tamil", etc. that we can write something about these things and more and spread the knowledge.
We should include some fun&games, competition, etc.
We should also pool in more ideas about what we can and should to benefit not only us also the future generations.
Regards,
Amar
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- From: Ravi (@ greed.cs.umass.edu)
on: Tue Oct 21 14:46:25 EDT 1997
If we have the 'TFM' domain up and running soon, I would suggest that the magazine/report be made an online one. All the TFMers have net access by definition. Or do we need this report for people without access to the net?
- From: aruLarasan (@ psiphi.umsl.edu)
on: Tue Oct 21 18:28:34 EDT 1997
Ravi,
I personally feel, paper is more stumilating - though ecologically
devastating - than electrons. Moreover, this kind of a malar will
help spread word in India about TFM, TFMP, TFMDF and TFMC (TFMClub!!!).
We can ALSO do it electronically.
- From: Aravind (@ 202.42.152.9)
on: Tue Oct 21 23:10:58 EDT 1997
Yes. I agree with aruLarasan. Paper is defenitely more appealing. But we should do it electronically also.
- From: NOV (@ 202.184.134.10)
on: Wed Oct 22 02:43:50 EDT 1997
James, aruLarasan, Gopal, Gopi, TRV, Rajaraman, Kanchana, Gokul, Aravind, Amar & Ravi - Thank you very much for your support and encouragement.
From what we have received so far, Gopal & I can handle the page design; and aruLarasan, Gopi, and TRV have volunteered to do the writing/compiling. More volunteers are needed off course. When you volunteer, it would also help if you could mention which area you excel in, for instance Satya Keerthi can do lyrics-varnanai, etc,.
Now, let me address your concerns:
Rajaraman, Kanchana & Aravind - I don't foresee financing as a big problem, especially if it is spread out among many of us. Alternatively we can get some sponsors, either from US or India.
IDEA 2: Eventually, this book can be sold in the open market or through internet via the many (silent majority) who browse these pages. Income derived from these sale can then be pumped into making the TFM pages better. How do you like that?
Gokul - To be really cost effective, we have to increase the "per run" of the book not its frequency. Certain costs, like film-making are fixed whether we print 10 copies or 1 million. Off course unit printing costs decreases as the quantity printed increases. We will come to this later.
Aravind - I have my reservations on printing it in India. Without meaning to offend, I must say that I am not impressed with the quality of printing in India. If we are not particular about the quality and if all we want to see is the end-result, then let's go for it. But given our spread around the world (and what more with our contacts) I think we may get good rates elsewhere too. We'll come to this later as well.
Ravi - I had this idea of "putting it on the net" as the final resort if everything fails. But you have munthified again! :-) But let's get on with the print version first. Nothing like holding it in your hands!!
OK - now shall we work on the approach?
1. Concept - What will it look like? - The contents
2. Design - How will it look like? - Number of pages, and technical details
3. Costing - Once we know 1 & 2 above, we can get quotations from all over the world.
4. Method of financing
5. Distribution
Shall we begin?
Let's put our heads together on what we want to be included in the TFM Annual. Don't worry about the sequence, yet.
1. Foreword from the Page maintainers
2. Table of contents
3. History of TFM Pages
4. Lists - Firsts
- Kannan songs
5. Discussions - Kannadhasan Kavidhaigal
- Mayakkum Kaathal Geethangal
6. Write up on TFM Personalities - Ilayaraja
- Kannadhasan
- MS Visvanathan
7. Analysis of songs
8. Profiles of current people posting on the TFM Discussion Forum
Please continue... (on subject 1 only)
- From: Corrector (@ 202.184.134.10) on: Wed Oct 22 02:49:19 EDT 1997
- From: Corrector (@ 202.184.134.10) on: Wed Oct 22 02:49:19 EDT 1997
- From: Ravi (@ greed.cs.umass.edu)
on: Wed Oct 22 04:13:33 EDT 1997
Reviews of new albums.
- From: aruLarasan (@ psiphi.umsl.edu)
on: Wed Oct 22 18:51:45 EDT 1997
Guys,
since the ANdu malar seems to be accepted by all why don't we start
another separate thread on it. yov nov, nIngaLE antha nalla
kAriyaththais seyyungaLEn.
I was also thinking about another thing we all might do. How about,
as an annual affair, selecting one song/movie for best music from TFdom
and giving away TFMClub award (just virtual - what I mean by virtual is
that we will maintain a complete album or bgm online with the title
TFMClub's Best TF song/bgm of the year). How does this sound?
- From: aruLarasan (@ psiphi.umsl.edu)
on: Wed Oct 22 18:54:23 EDT 1997
Continuation of my previous posting.
This should be "prestigious" because this is the only online DF on TFM
and we all have good tastes and sense (??? !!!!!! :-) ). We can do, like
other awards, voting and select or find some other novel method.
- From: Aravind (@ 202.42.152.9)
on: Thu Oct 23 00:10:36 EDT 1997
NOV
I was not offended by your remark on the printing standards in India. But I think your exposure to the same is limited to kumutham, Anantha vikatan and the like.
Everything depends on how much you are ready to spend. You can defenitely go up to international standards provided you are ready to spend that kind of money. Even that would work out cheaper because of the conversion factor.
- From: NOV (@ 202.184.134.10)
on: Thu Oct 23 03:11:46 EDT 1997
aruLarasan - Good suggestion, let me thoguppufy what is here and then start a new thread.
Aravind - A thousand apologies! I have read several books and magazines (including from the North) from India and made that remark based on my experience. Off course I could be totally wrong. Anyway, we can worry about the printing at a later stage. I'm not sure about the conversion factor though. RM1 was about Rs13 a few weeks ago but now is about Rs7!!
Note for those who are puzzled: RM is the Malaysian currency.
- From: NOV (@ 202.184.134.10)
on: Thu Oct 23 06:03:45 EDT 1997
Please do not post anything in relation to the Aandu Malar here. There is a new thread on the subject.
However, anything else on TFM Club can still be raised here.
- From: Kanchana (@ ww-tc63.proxy.aol.com)
on: Thu Oct 23 09:32:54 EDT 1997
TFM CLUB AGENDA ITEM 2
Since the AaNdu Malar plans are well on their way in a separate thread, I'm sure it's OK to move on to the next discussion item.
Some of us know that the TFM Group is looking to upgrade the TFM Page to make it even better . The Group, as usual, is willing to put in the time and effort, but they need about US$500 to complete the planned upgrades.
My husband Dhamu and I have volunteered to contribute. I've also identified some potential commercial sponsors and am pursuing them, but as we all know commercial sponsors bring in their own agendas too. Will any of the TFM'ites be interested in contributing to the next generation TFM Page? Contributions are completely voluntary and need not be large (even a $10 contribution adds up.)
Thank you in advance for your opinions and help!!
- From: Kanchana (@ ww-ta06.proxy.aol.com)
on: Thu Oct 23 12:38:16 EDT 1997
This topic will be continued in a new thread to keep the topic fresh and current.
- From: aruLarsan (@ psiphi.umsl.edu)
on: Thu Oct 23 12:39:21 EDT 1997
Hi,
Regarding contribs, I have already committed some amount to Rajaraman.
If we all can pool in some money, we can keep the page fairly commercial,
ad free. That will be great. In the version III we can add all the things
like chat room, live audio, etc. All depends on almighty dollars. I urge
the regular visitors, to come forward and donate some amount towards this
end.
cheers.
- From: lena (@ )
on: Mon Feb 9 05:16:26 EST 2004
Where from we download JANANI JANANI JAGAM NEE song of THAAI MOOGAMBIGAI film
- From: V.Prakash (@ 203.129.222.10)
on: Thu Mar 18 22:44:02 EST 2004
Hi Lena,
U can download thaai moogambikai songs from www.coolgoose.com(bud u need to search in that site, otherwise u need to browse the full site)
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