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Penngalin Azhagai Varnnikkum Padalgal

Topic started by Bhaskar (@ dutyfree.proxy.lucent.com) on Wed Oct 8 10:20:12 EDT 1997.
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• From: Pagalavan (@ bbn-cache-3.cisco.com) on: Tue Jun 23 14:15:31 EDT 1998
  
  kanchana, Udaya, SK
  I was a student of kuruvikkarambai shanmugam in Pachaiyappa's (in my PUC). Very simple guy; oru nalla AAsAn.
  
  SK, thanks for the list of his songs.
  
  
• From: Sundar (@ pm1-232.phl.infi.net) on: Tue Jun 23 15:19:09 EDT 1998
  
  If you do want to get classical on this,
  
  "taavum kodimele oru thanga-k-kudam pole
  paavaiyum perezhile yentahu aavalai-th-thoonduthadi"
  
  (sithiram pesuthadi.. yen sinthai mayanguthadi..)
  
  Compare this to
  
  "munnale yethetho muzhi-muzhinnu muzhikkuthu
  pinnale yethetho persia irukkuthuu"
  
  The guy had class, you had to hand it to him!
  
  
• From: Udhaya (@ 205.218.142.217) on: Tue Jun 23 15:47:01 EDT 1998
  
  Pagalavan, thanks for the info. Aasan endra arumaiyaana vaarthaiyai kaettu ethanai naatkal aagirathu, hmm. Sundar, by all means do get classical here. That was a great song you brought up.
  
  
• From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ panorama.nus.edu.sg) on: Tue Jun 23 20:01:01 EDT 1998
  
  Pagalavan:
  
  Interesting to know that you studied under Prof. K.Shanmugam.
  Actually, except kavidhai aRangERum nEram
  I have no direct info about any of his other songs.
  The information I gave above is a shortened version
  of an article about him written in a book on TFM Lyricists
  by Dr.Kalyanasundaram. If you are anyone else
  wants the full article, I can type it in.
  
  
• From: Udhaya (@ 205.218.142.217) on: Tue Jun 23 20:16:29 EDT 1998
  
  SK, if you can spare the time, I would love to read it. Here's an interesting analogy for a woman immersed in water up to her neck:
  
  kodi neerukkullae
  malar maelae
  pen kulippathu
  thaamarai polae
  
  
• From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ synergy.nus.edu.sg) on: Tue Jun 23 20:39:48 EDT 1998
  
  Udhaya:
  
  Aren't those lines from the song, avaLE en kaadhali?
  
  The book is at home. So I shall bring it tomorrow
  and type that article on KS. If people think such
  an article is a digression, I will send it to you
  by e-mail.
  
  I wrote the name of that book's author wrongly; it is
  Dr. Su. Shanmugasundaram. Although the book is
  an exhaustive one about 'all TFM lyricists till
  1996' (there are about 400+ lyricists), one of
  its aims is to do some propaganda for Vairamuthu.
  Obviously, the author is close to (sponsored by?)
  VM. The book tries to portray VM to be equal
  (if not greater than) Kannadhasan. (The title of
  the book, Vairamuthu varai says it all!)
  Leaving the really famous lyricists such as
  Kannadhasan, Udumalai Kavi, Pattukottai K, Vaali
  and a few others, the author makes naiyaaNdi
  about every one else. Because IR is in the opposition
  camp of VM, the author also has made every effort
  to make fun of IR (e.g., his writing skills).
  In spite of all this, it is a worthwhile book
  simply because of the vast information it contains.
  
  
• From: Kanchana (@ spider-ta021.proxy.aol.com) on: Tue Jun 23 20:49:39 EDT 1998
  
  Keerthi:
  Hope you can share the article with us here. To paraphrase your words from a thread last year, don't these little digressions add more flavor to a thread?
  
  
• From: Gokul (@ pgokul.netpath.net) on: Tue Jun 23 20:51:07 EDT 1998
  
  Ramki,
  
  Recently,PulamaiPithAn gave some nice songs in KaDavuL.
  
  
  
• From: Bhaskar (@ spider-wa032.proxy.aol.com) on: Tue Jun 23 23:06:34 EDT 1998
  
  Keerthi Sir:
  
  Neenga sonna piragu naan ennOda latest package
  from Bangalore marubadiyum thaedi thaedi
  paarthaen, eppadida andha IR cassette missing
  endru, I found the cassette Sendhooram
  Neenga sonna pattu first time impressor.
  It is a very nice song, with very different beat!
  
  
• From: Rajaraman (@ 192.122.135.224) on: Wed Jun 24 05:43:50 EDT 1998
  
  Sathiya Keerthi
  
  I have also seen this book. In fact, I have picked useful info from the book and included under artist bio pages.
  He has written a better book (TFM lyricists book
  has many mistakes) on Bharathiraja's movies. It's
  a very comprehensive work.
  
  sorry for the digression.
  
  
• From: Mano (@ wheel126.watstar.uwaterloo.ca) on: Wed Jun 24 11:38:36 EDT 1998
  
  I think, one of the great song is missing:
  
  Amutha Mazhai Pozhium Mulu Nilavilay
  Oru Alagu Silai Udal Muzhum Nanaithatho
  Adada Oh Devanium Mayakidum
  Entha Intharivu Jeevanum Mayangidum
  
  Poopota Puthu Selai Uduthi
  Oru Poonjolaiye Nadantha Ashainthu
  ...
  
  by T.L. MahaRajan from 'Pombala Manasu'
  
  Humor:
  Aasai Kiliye Aarikilo puliye
  Alugina Thakaliye
  ...
  by MV from 'Thambiku Entha OOru'
  
  
  
• From: Srinath (@ socks6d.raleigh.ibm.com) on: Wed Jun 24 11:59:48 EDT 1998
  
  Does anyone remember "Pennalla Pennalla Oothaapoo.." from Uzhavan ? I remember there was some controversy about the MD when this movie was released. Some people said that it wasn't ARR who scored for this movie. But IMO it had all the standard trademarks of an ARR song. Anyway, the songs were pretty good though I don't know why they didn't click. This song compares a female to every known flower...and then some :-)
  
  
• From: Bhaskar (@ freeway.proxy.lucent.com) on: Wed Jun 24 12:50:37 EDT 1998
  
  Here is a classic comparision by Kannadhasan!
  
  
  
  Yaar, Yaar, Yaar aval YaarO!
  
  Salavai kaLLe silaiyaaga!
  Thagappaalam kaiyaaga!
  Malargal irandum vizhiyaaga!
  
  Muthu manitthiraL rathinamO!
  Moi kuzhal maEga chitthiramO!
  
  kaNgal mayangum kaN aanaal!
  peNgal mayangum peN aanaal!
  Ninaivil mayangum poruL aanaal!
  Nilavil mayangum iruL aanaal!
  
  
  Mano and Srinath thanks for your contributions!
  
  Pennalla pennalla oothappu is a Nice song
  with all comparisons made to flowers!
  
  Ramki, if you see this posting could you please
  post the lyrics of that song if you know,
  I do not have the CD or cassette of this song!
  
  Thanks in advance!
  
  
• From: Udhaya (@ 205.218.142.217) on: Wed Jun 24 13:24:54 EDT 1998
  
  Guys, Vaali wrote a poo song in the early eighties. It goes:
  Indha vanji magal oru oothaappoo
  Idhai vandugal vandhu oothaappoo
  
  
• From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ synergy.nus.edu.sg) on: Wed Jun 24 20:24:30 EDT 1998
  
  
  The following is taken from 'Vairamuththu varai' (December 1996)
  by Dr. Su. Shanmugasundaram; Second Edition, Maa Publishers,
  Bangalore. (The author is the Head, Thamizh Center, St Joseph's
  College, Bangalore.)
  
  (It seems the first edition of the book came in
  1988, and has many details missing.)
  
  kuruvikkarai shaNmugam:
  
  ivar kuruvikkarai endra ooril piRandhavar. Bharathidhasan-in
  maaNavargaLuL oruvar. pachchaiyappan kallooriyil pEraasiriyar.
  ivar marabuk kavidhaigaLilirundhu pudhuk kavidhaikku vandhavar.
  marabuk kavidhaiyil niRaya noolgaL ezhudhiyuLLaar. 1968-il
  ulagath thamizh naattu kavidhaip pOttiyil mudhal parisinaip
  petravar. 'pooththa veLLi', 'kavidhai arangERum nEram' pOndravai
  ivaradhu pudhuk kavidhaith thoguppugaL.
  
  1981-il kOvaiyil kaviyarangaththukkup pOnaar. angu Bhagyaraj
  thalaimai. avarukku ivarai pidiththup pOnadhu. "July maadham
  mudhal thEdhi Bhagyaraj veettiRku pOnEn. magizhchchiyOdu pEsinaar.
  kOvai kaviyarangam patri kuRippittaar. 'thamizh endraalE naan
  ungaLaiththaan ninaiththuk koLvEn' endraar. 'En Sir, neengaL
  thiraip padaththiRku paadal ezhudhinaal enna?' endru kEttaar.
  'O, dhaaraaLamaaga ezhudhalaam. sila aaNdugaLukku munbu kooda
  oruvar en paadalai padhivu seydhaar. aanaal padamdhaan veLi
  varavillai' endrEn. 'idhu enakku theriyaamal pOchchE. Tune-ukku
  paattu ezhudhuveergaLaa?' endru kEttaar. 'naan Harmonium muRaiyaaga
  vaasikkak katravan. Tune-ukku viraivaagap paattu ezhudhuvEn'
  endrEn. maRunaaL azhaiththaar. pOnEn. 'andha 7 naatkaL' padam.
  'oru duet vENdum' enak kEttaar. oru maNi nEraththil naan ezhudhik
  koduththEn.
  
  kavidhai arangERum nEram - malark
  kaNaigaL parimaaRum dhEgam - ini
  naaLum kalyaaNa raagam - indha
  ninaivu sangeedham aagum
  
  ena ezhudhinEn. paadal padivaayitru. Bhagyaraj en Brahman. ennaith
  thiraippadap paadalaasiriyaraagap piRappedukka vaiththavar" enbaar
  kavinjar. (Ref: Gemini Cinema, March 1982)
  
  "paadal ellOrkkum puriya vENdum. ellOraiyum kavara vENdum. ungaL
  kavidhaiyai eLimaip paduththungaL, nalla paadalaagi vidum" endru
  sonnaaraam Bhagyaraj. 'en nenjE needhaan' (Darling^3), 'suga raagamE
  suga bOgamE' (kanniraasi), 'kuyilE kuyilE' (aaN paavam), 'Hello aasai
  dheepamE' (Hello yaar pEsaRadhu), 'maalai ponnaana maalai' (nilavE
  malarE), 'naan paadumaa nenjandhaan vaazhththumaa' (dhooram adhigamillai),
  'mangammaa kaNNil minnal thuLLudhE' (iniyavaLE vaa), 'dhEvanE endhan
  dhEvanE' (maRakka maattEn), 'enna vENum edhu vENum kEttukkO' (anbuLLa
  Rajinikanth), 'maamaa unakku oru thoodhu vittEn' (chinna veedu) enap
  palvERu paadalgaL vandhu virumbik kEtkappattana.
  
  ivar paadalai ivarE virumbik kEttadhaaga vaanoli nilayaththil oru
  vadhandhi vandhadhu. ivarO, "nichchayamaaga appadi oru nilamai enakku
  varaadhu" endraar.
  
  "naan medhuvaaga adiyeduththu vaikkiREn. yaanaiyin adaiyaip pOla,
  avasaramum prabalamum seekkiram aaLai ozhiththuvidum enbadhai
  aRindhavan naan" enbaar ivar. (Ref: marudhaaNi, 3 April 85)
  
  "thiraippadap paadalgaL endra vazhiyilum en ezhuththukkaLai samoogaththil
  sErkka mudiyum endra nambikkaiyildhaan paadal ezhudhap pugundhEn.
  thiraip padangaLil virasam adhigariththup pOyitru. kudumbaththOdu
  utkaarndhu vaanoli kEtka mudivadhillai. naangu nalla kavinjargaL
  vandhaalaavadhu idhu maaRumallavaa? aNmaiyil iraNdu cinema paadal
  aasiriyargaL ennudaiya kavidhai varigaLai thirudi thangaL paattil
  iNaiththuk koNdaargaL. thirudiya vishayaththaik kooda saamarththiyamaaga
  sErkkath theriyavillai. adadaa, nammudaiya kavidhai varigaL ippadi
  thappu thappaai copy adikkap paduvadhaivida naamE pOi ozhungaaga
  nagal eduththuk kodukkalaamE endru ninaiththEn. andha ninaippin
  viLaivudhaan indha cinema pravEsam. sila Ottai udaisal paadalaasiriyargaLai
  veettukku anuppavaavadhu en pOndravargaLin pravEsam payan padattum"
  endraar. (Ref: dhinamaNi kadhir, 19 Feb 82) kuruvikkarambai shaNmugam
  mElum, 'uyirth thudippu', 'needhiyin vaasalilE' pOndra padangaLukku
  ezhudhi vandhaar.
  
  sameeba kaalamaaga ivarE kadhai vasanam iyakkamum sErththuk koNdu
  anaiththup paadalgaLaiyum ezhudhinaar. padam: 'maappiLLai manasu poop
  pOla'. idhil, 'kumbakONam kozhundhu veththilai', 'madhuraiyilE
  vaangi vandha marak kudhirai', 'raasaavin sondhak kudhirai', 'naan
  BudhdhanumillE', 'vada naattulE' endra paadalgaL ezhudhiyuLLaar.
  isai: dhEvaa. muyaRchchiyaiyum thuNichchalaiyum paaraatta vENdum.
  Sir manasum poop pOlaththaan.
  
  Rajaraman:
  
  Thanks for info about that author's other book.
  
  
• From: Ramki (@ pm062-29.spindler.wmich.edu) on: Wed Jun 24 20:35:51 EDT 1998
  
  'maalai ponnanane maalai
  ilam poove nee vandhai velai
  thene sangeetham dhanae
  dhinam paadum aanandha thene'
  
  SK thanks for reminding this nice song
  
  

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