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Old Thamizh Film Songs in Real Audio

Topic started by SK (@ azure.nus.edu.sg) on Sun Aug 1 21:44:58 EDT 1999.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

Please announce the availability/uploading of
old Thamizh film songs in real audio (or other
formats) in this page. Discussions on the songs
and also requests for particular songs can be
made here.

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Responses:

• Old responses
  
• From: Vels (@ alcor.concordia.ca) on: Sun Sep 5 15:42:07 EDT 1999
  
  SK:
  
  Thanks. I have changed the info. of that song.
  
  
• From: sk (@ azure.nus.edu.sg) on: Mon Sep 6 05:08:08 EDT 1999
  
  Folks:
  
  For some reason the xoom site webmaster has singled
  out the PPP Real Audio page and has written to
  me to seek permission from the owners of the
  tfm songs before uploading them via the xoom
  account. I have been strictly told that the
  account will be locked and inaccessible until
  such permission is obtained. That means the end
  of the PPP Real Audio page at xoom. I am trying to
  find alternate sites for placing the songs.
  If anyone has any suggestions please write here.
  
  It is so sad because I have a good collection of
  old songs with excellent recording which I am
  keen to share with everyone; further, most of
  them I have already encoded in real audio format.
  We only need a site to hoist the songs!
  
  
• From: Ranga (@ har-ct18-206.ix.netcom.com) on: Mon Sep 6 15:59:05 EDT 1999
  
  vetrivel veeravel,
  
  Thanks for uploading the song 'inru mudhal selvamidhu' and reviving my soul.I shall give you half my kingdom and my daughter but you have to wait for some twenty one years.
  
  
• From: sk (@ azure.nus.edu.sg) on: Mon Sep 6 22:07:07 EDT 1999
  
  I have obtained another xoom account through a
  friend and started ppp ra again. But hereafter,
  to keep a low key I will only keep one week's
  songs so that too much memory space is not used.
  (Too much memory use causes xoom to take notice.)
  
  This week is a set of twin songs compiled by
  (the one and only) Ramki..
  
  members.xoom.com/goldies3
  
  I hope his comments will start a discussion here. :-))
  
  
• From: Ramki (@ pm533-36.dialip.mich.net) on: Mon Sep 6 22:40:03 EDT 1999
  
  Sk sorry i havent been here from yday and didnt see ur posting about xoom. I too have an unused account in xoom and i will be more than willing to
  give you. Please let me know.
  
  
• From: sk (@ azure.nus.edu.sg) on: Tue Sep 7 00:11:49 EDT 1999
  
  Ramki:
  
  Yes that'll be very useful because we can keep
  two weeks of songs that way. I will send you
  an email on that.
  
  
• From: bb (@ ts001d38.cha-il.concentric.net) on: Tue Sep 7 00:59:21 EDT 1999
  
  SK, ramki.. IR frequently uses change in pace (as srikanth noted in another thread) to convery a change in emotion.. in how many of the twin songs can this be found? a fast happy song and a slow sad song..
  
  
• From: sk (@ azure.nus.edu.sg) on: Tue Sep 7 03:05:57 EDT 1999
  
  bb:
  
  I don't know whether this fast-slow thing has been
  used frequently. But it has been used. Examples
  are anbuLLa maan vizhiyE/ anbuLLa mannavanE
  in kuzhandhaiyum dheivamum and adi ennadi rAkkammA
  from pattikkAdA pattaNamA.
  
  
• From: Sriram Lakshman (@ snfcb705-32.splitrock.net) on: Tue Sep 7 04:36:33 EDT 1999
  
  SK, you can add 'Unnai ondru ketpen' to the list, though the second version is not exactly melancholic.
  
  newtfmpage admins, a favour please, would it be possible for you all to display the links at the header (like it is in IR audio page thread)? This would save us the trouble of clicking on the 'Old responses' hyperlink to get to them. Thanks in advance.
  
  
• From: Vels (@ alcor.concordia.ca) on: Tue Sep 7 13:20:11 EDT 1999
  
  Ranga:
  
  You are very welcome. I really appreciate your admiration. :-)))
  
  
• From: rameshb (@ stagfw.thehartford.com) on: Tue Sep 7 14:47:34 EDT 1999
  
  SK
  i should salute your efforts in restoring your PPP audio page. Frankly speaking , there is absolutely no motivation for one to do so in the light of poor response for our endeavors(may be your case is different!). NO ONE CARES!(as far as i am concerned) I have spent so much of time for design and development of my page and customization and also encoded all the songs once again with better quality. In spite of all these efforts, noone even bothers to write couple of lines whether they like it or not!(they probably don't even visit). What is the motivation in fighting with these free hosts for your page when people don't even care to visit our pages? I would rather use my knowledge (acquired in the process now!) somewhere else where there is some appreciation for these bestowed efforts.
  
  If my account is locked under the pretext of insufficient reasons (like violation of TOS) , i would just close down the shutters. Hell with this song uploads!
  
  
  
• From: karthi (@ 1cust178.tnt1.rantoul.il.da.uu.net) on: Tue Sep 7 19:21:12 EDT 1999
  
  ramesh, enna aachu?
  
  
• From: karthi (@ 1cust178.tnt1.rantoul.il.da.uu.net) on: Tue Sep 7 19:29:36 EDT 1999
  
  remesh, therindho theriyaamalo un varuthathukku naanum oru kaaranamaaga irundhadharku mannikkavum. I will try to visit the pages frequently hereafter. Pazhaiyaa paadalgaLil naattam uLLa ennaip pOndravargaLE ippadi irundhaal, piragu matravargaLai enna solvadhu? It's not lack of appreciation that I have, but it's a kind of lack of interet I find myself to have frequently nowadays...in whatever I do....sory again!
  
  
• From: rameshb (@ spider-wg044.proxy.aol.com) on: Tue Sep 7 19:40:29 EDT 1999
  
  karthi
  xoom wala thalvar laekar sab ka sir kAtA aarahA hai. Ab thak sirf mera hi sir bachA hua hai. woh kabhi bhi kat sakthi hai . Sir katne bAth seedha shamshAn jane ki thaiyAri kar rahA hum thAki mein khudh ma khudh dhafan hojAoon. dhoosra koi lae jAne wale(woh chAr jan) to nahin hai ((;-
  have you heared that phrase " sir pe kfan bhAnd kE"?
  
  
• From: Kooththan (@ dhcp-css-consult-12.redbrick.com) on: Tue Sep 7 20:24:48 EDT 1999
  
  Rameshb,"Aap ko hamse khafa hone ki zaroorath nahin, hum sub aap ki aabhaari hain. Agar humse galthi ho gayee to maaf kar di jiye. Hamne kayee baar isi thread-mein aap sab ki tareef ki hai. Gaana maangi thi (aapse) judaee to nahin mangi thi". Shukriya
  
  
• From: rameshb (@ spider-te044.proxy.aol.com) on: Tue Sep 7 20:52:56 EDT 1999
  
  koothan
  i could not get your email address. Could you please send me an email(to enable me to get your email address) if you don't mind? ralaan@aol.com
  
  thanks
  
  
• From: sk (@ azure.nus.edu.sg) on: Tue Sep 7 20:53:44 EDT 1999
  
  rameshb:
  
  xoom wala thalvar laekar sab ka sir kAtA aarahA hai.
  
  ...aanaal naanO 9 thalai koNda raavaNanaakkum!
  
  OK folks. Let's stop Hindi before bb walks in
  with a thalvar and seevufies this whole thread!
  
  Please don't be dejected. ungaL sEvai pazhaya
  paadalgaLukku thEvai. I will write in detail
  after half hour since I have to meet a student
  here just now.
  
  
• From: Kooththan (@ dhcp-css-consult-12.redbrick.com) on: Tue Sep 7 21:11:05 EDT 1999
  
  Rameshb, I have sended e-mail to you. Please red it.
  
  
• From: Ramki (@ pm533-31.dialip.mich.net) on: Tue Sep 7 21:13:11 EDT 1999
  
  Rameshb ennachu aen ithanai pugai?:))calm down calm down. I'm sure many people visit your site, probably they dont have words to appreciate it(thinking positively:)). Dont lose your spirits.
  What you and SK are doing is a great service to Old song rasigars like me and many others. Cheer up
  
  
• From: sk (@ azure.nus.edu.sg) on: Tue Sep 7 21:39:48 EDT 1999
  
  Kooththan:
  
  enakkum oru email anuppuppaa.
  
  
• From: sk (@ azure.nus.edu.sg) on: Tue Sep 7 21:40:51 EDT 1999
  
  rameshb:
  
  Let me see whether I can put things from my perspective. I started
  learning about real audio because I found it useful for my lessons
  in tracing of notes for songs.. it is easy to rewind and listen
  again and again a particular line using real audio digital files.
  But then I got this idea.. why not make some effort to share these
  songs with others? I had (still don't have) no expectation of any
  sort for the response. Initially I spent a lot of time. But once
  that was done, the extra work is only marginal.. I spend, say 10 hrs
  per week at most! Even if there is a single person listening to
  my songs (one rameshb is good enough) that's sufficient for
  me. I put a counter in my page to get an idea of statistics. In
  about a month there were totally 612 downloads with about 25 people
  coming in.. and 5 of them are regular customers. That is at least
  3 times more than what I expected. I am very sure that a similar
  statistics holds for your page too. Someone who never writes here
  wrote to me that he was absolutely thrilled listening to 'gangai
  karai thOttam'. GV wrote to me that he got a chance to listen to
  'koondhalilE nei thadavi' after 20 years and he had been looking
  for that song for 20 years. People like Ramki and karthi are very
  hard-to-find enthusiasts who visit our pages.. see, I have also
  managed to extract work out of them and formed two weeks of special
  (wonderful) songs presented by them. Bhasker doesn't write much
  but he has tremendous enthusiasm. The concern that he (and you and
  ramki) showed when the ppp ra xoom account got "thalwAred" was
  amazing. There are others like Sriram who give useful comments.
  There are many who are busy and who come in and listen once in a
  while and catch up on all the good songs they missed. I very much
  enjoyed participating with you on the comedy vAram. All these
  are much more than what I expected. No need for dejection. Let us
  continue.. till we stop getting any enjoyment out of it.. as a service
  my aim is to set up a single page where there is a full list of
  old songs where anyone can come in, select and listen the songs
  they want. We can do it as a joint exercise. But how to do that,
  where to find space for that etc baffles me. I am very sure that
  once such a page is set-up, there will be regular activity with a
  steady stream of visitors. Your help can be very valuable for such a
  project.
  
  
• From: sk (@ azure.nus.edu.sg) on: Tue Sep 7 21:47:43 EDT 1999
  
  Bhasker:
  
  On your request I am reloading 'Songs from the
  Early TFM Years of KJ Yesudas'. Go to..
  
  members.xoom.com/goldies3/kjy.html
  
  
• From: rameshb (@ spider-te084.proxy.aol.com) on: Tue Sep 7 22:35:51 EDT 1999
  
  SK
  let me put my perpective, i also started this whole exercise as a case study for my learning of web design and development. When i started off, my knowledge on html was 0. Where do i stand today? I learnt not only the fundemendals of HTML, but also javascript , PERL , CGI-BIN concepts , cookies and more importantly the different things involved in IE and Netscape browsers in making your page work for both of them. In the beginning i had the same kind of plans to start my page with some customization . But one needs a host (a free one for poor people like us!;-)) who can given CGI-BIN access to run PERL scripts.
  
  I hooked up with webjump but unfortunately their support was awful and their poor supervisor could not answer my queries. Instead, he responded saying i cann't use their server only for the purpose of CGI-BIN scripts. I gave a fitting reply to them (their 'cancel my account' option in their account maintenance page did not work! , i sent an email starting 'shame on you') and cancelled my account. However, I continued to upload songs with xoom and launched my page. Since then only some two or three guys (you, the first ) have been responding to my uploads regularly. I must admit that i could not upload any of the requests so far. ( in fact i have all my collections uploaded already).
  
  When i got an email from shyam asking me if i can implement 'selective play', it kinda rekindled the spirits and swung back into search for a free provider with CGI-BIN, and i got virtualave. I spent so many hours to design , code and test the customization and it worked the way i wanted. Yes , there was some problem in the beginning with Netscape where it was not working. But i did not give up, continued my efforts to get the functionality working. Even now, the color effects are not the same (for custom scroll boxes) in both browsers. CSS (cascading style sheets) don't properly work with netscape. But, did i get a response from anybody regarding this feature , NO. Except you and shyam , no one said nothing (american way of saying!;-)))
  
  Xoom's scrutiny of TFM song pages and its follow up action is really a show stopper for us. However my page is unaxed and active until this moment.
  
  Excuse me guys for venting my feelings.
  
  
  
• From: sk (@ azure.nus.edu.sg) on: Tue Sep 7 23:29:33 EDT 1999
  
  rameshb:
  
  i also started this whole exercise as a case
  study for my learning of web design and
  development
  
  That, definitely was achieved.. perhaps you learnt
  more than you had originally planned!!
  
  So, your work was not wasted at all! Now, regarding
  visitors, isn't it possible that there are many
  who just listen to the songs, but do not write
  any comments? As I wrote on the stats for ppp ra,
  there are about 25 visitors till date. But..
  only about 5 have really written comments here
  (or by email). The same could be true with your
  tamilmelody page too. If that's the case, then I
  find your efforts to be very worthwhile.. only
  that the appreciation is hidden.
  
  

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