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Topic started by outsider (@ 63.100.210.76) on Wed Jul 24 09:05:56 EDT 2002.
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Shankar-Ganesh are the second most prolific music composers in tamil, after MS Vishwanathan.
Their works deserve to be analysed.

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• From: peeps (@ 203.199.207.198) on: Wed Jul 24 09:32:18 EDT 2002
  
  Your first sentence has to be analysed first and then we can analyse his works..:-)
  
  
• From: x (@ 209.47.143.226) on: Wed Jul 24 10:30:08 EDT 2002
  
  peeps: that's funny....
  
  SG was like another Deva (copy-cat). He was one of the busiest MDs in MSV/IR period. He managed to give many hit songs and some of them are worth mentioning:
  
  1. romba naalaga enakkoru aasai (what movie?)
  2. few songs from movie 'neeya'
  3. unnai naan parthadhu (one of SPB's best)
  4. megame megame (copied but still a good song)
  
  
• From: LP (@ 162.119.64.100) on: Wed Jul 24 11:50:47 EDT 2002
  
  -- nAn yEn piranthEn
  -- idhaya veeNai
  
  These are the two MGR movies SG did music, if I remember right. Most songs in both the movies are real good, but I am not sure if they are copied.
  
  For the period they stayed in field, their number of hits are very limited. IMO, Deva is one step ahead even though he is a copycat as well...
  
  
• From: JJ (@ 65.69.58.197) on: Wed Jul 24 12:33:33 EDT 2002
  
  Most of the devar films were scored by SG.
  His popular songs are
  
  1) Athule meen pidichu - Attukara Alamelu
  2) Paruthi Edukkaiyile - Attukkara Alamelu
  3) Padungal - Guru
  4) Parandalum vidamatten - Guru
  5) Naan Vanangukiren - Guru
  6) Illangiliye - Shankarlal
  7) Yaradhu Sollamal - Nenjamellam Neeye
  ..
  
  They did their part. Deva is a step ahead because he has no competition. Shankar Ganesh had competition in the form of Giant Illayaraja. We understood the true meaning of Monopoly during IR days.
  
  
• From: Pal (@ 199.43.48.22) on: Wed Jul 24 12:52:04 EDT 2002
  
  Guru - SG ????????????????????
  
  
• From: LP (@ 162.119.64.100) on: Wed Jul 24 13:45:52 EDT 2002
  
  Both Guru and Shankarlal are by IR...
  
  
• From: JJ (@ 65.69.58.197) on: Wed Jul 24 14:15:40 EDT 2002
  
  I cross checked with Raaja Nagham. LP is right.
  Both Guru and Shankarlal by IR. Adhane pathen..
  How come SG scored such good tunes nnu.
  
  
• From: naaz (@ 24.76.127.63) on: Wed Jul 24 14:56:22 EDT 2002
  
  Why be disparaging of S-Gs talents? The gave some fine music for films like Kanni Paruvathile, Neeya, Palaivanachcholai, Aatukara Alamelu, Thangathile Vairam, Thai Mel Aanai, Kannodu Kann, Nenjamellam Neeye, Rajangam, Kannil Theriyum Kadhaigal...
  
  If the intention is to probe the music and diversity of S-Gs contribution to Tamizh films, then it would be only fair to just discuss their work. Comparisons with other MDs are odious, and seldom contribute to a better understanding of the topic at hand.
  
  
• From: JJ (@ 65.69.58.197) on: Wed Jul 24 15:23:34 EDT 2002
  
  We don't disparage!! I think Kannil Theriyum Kadhaigal had 5 MDs. I dunno which SG scored for.
  I think Naan Unna Nenachen was scored by SG. Naanoru ponnoviyam kanden by IR. I dunno about the rest.
  
  
• From: naaz (@ 24.76.127.63) on: Wed Jul 24 15:57:12 EDT 2002
  
  "How come SG scored such good tunes nnu."
  I only gave you examples of their good tunes.
  
  
• From: Loosu (@ 144.42.9.23) on: Wed Jul 24 16:27:25 EDT 2002
  
  If I am not wrong, music for "Darling Darling Darling" was by SG. Couldn't believe that they can really come up with the mesmorizing song 'Oh Nenje Nee dhaan paadum geethangal"
  
  Loosu
  
  
• From: Loosu (@ 144.42.9.23) on: Wed Jul 24 16:31:03 EDT 2002
  
  Recently I watched the film 'Uchakattam', a thriller starring Sarathbabu, Y.G.Mahendren. The music was by Shankar Ganesh.
  
  Was plesantly surprised to notice that it has a hit song 'Sithar kooda pitharaagi buthi maari sellalam, pithar kooda sitharaagi thathuvangal sollalam..'
  
  Good one.
  
  
• From: yaaro (@ 195.93.50.158) on: Wed Jul 24 17:35:00 EDT 2002
  
  //Shankar-Ganesh are the second most prolific music composers in tamil, after MS Vishwanathan//
  MSV has scored around 350-400 movies only.
  
  
• From: JJ (@ 65.69.58.197) on: Wed Jul 24 18:07:43 EDT 2002
  
  Yea but he is better than ARR
  
  
• From: peeps (@ 203.199.207.198) on: Thu Jul 25 00:17:47 EDT 2002
  
  JJ,
  Why to bring ARR into this?
  
  
• From: MIF (@ 202.9.181.206) on: Thu Jul 25 01:25:00 EDT 2002
  
  yaaro,
  >>MSV has scored only for 450 odd films<<
  i got this same piece of info. a few weeks b4......but u sure??......coz MSV wud have done music for majority of shivaji films and MGR films.......and dat alone wud come to some 350-400 films.......so can u pls clarify??
  
  
• From: OISG (@ 202.9.177.93) on: Thu Jul 25 11:02:13 EDT 2002
  
  Outsider
  
  Check the archives.There was a good thread on SG and almost all their works had been discussed.
  
  
• From: vengayam (@ 203.200.84.67) on: Fri Jul 26 04:36:44 EDT 2002
  
  OISG
  where had you been? taking a walk about? welcome back
  
  
• From: Outsider (@ 63.100.210.76) on: Fri Jul 26 09:04:45 EDT 2002
  
  OISG,
  thanks for your kind reply. I will try to search
  the archives.
  
  
• From: Oustsider (@ 203.215.177.98) on: Mon Jul 29 23:16:03 EDT 2002
  
  Naaz
  
  Can you give me your e-mail address?
  Mail me at baalusubbu@yahoo.com
  
  
• From: outsider (@ 64.0.99.137) on: Mon Jul 29 23:59:47 EDT 2002
  
  Sorry
  baalusubbu@yahoo.ca
  (this is canadian yahoo address)
  
  
• From: outsider (@ 63.100.210.76) on: Tue Jul 30 09:40:19 EDT 2002
  
  hhmmmm
  
  
• From: outsider (@ 63.100.210.76) on: Tue Jul 30 09:41:58 EDT 2002
  
  hhmmmm
  
  
• From: outsider (@ 63.100.210.76) on: Wed Jul 31 08:48:41 EDT 2002
  
  Conceded S-G were not creative like Illai Raaja.
  Conceded S-G were not as maestro as was MSV.
  But there must be something about them that brought them hundreds and hundreds of movies for
  music composition.
  
  Copy-cat, a term used here for the MD's that
  copy the tunes of others. But copying is not
  always that repugnable. Satyam, mainly the
  Telugoo, Kannada music director, copied
  most of his routine songs, usually from hindi film music. But whenever it came to classical, religious , emotional songs, he almost always came up with the songs of highest caliber.
  I regard him one of the finest composers for
  his most impressive classical (carnatic)and emotional, religious compositions,
  notwithstanding that he copied blatantly for his ordinary songs.
  
  
• From: Neel D (@ 24.98.42.169) on: Wed Jul 31 09:39:05 EDT 2002
  
  http://www.newtfmpage.com/forum/25588.12.44.56.html
  
  
• From: Kupps (@ 156.153.255.126) on: Wed Jul 31 09:41:01 EDT 2002
  
  Thanks Loosu (i feel awkward while telling this name),
  
  For mentioning the MD of uchchakkattam. I was longing to know the MD. siththan kooda OF uchchakkattam is really a nice song. The way it suddenly plunges from this fast step lines into the slow step naan aendhum thaen kiNNam vaazhga vaazhga. I sometimes would confuse the end of this slow step i.e. aennai kollaamal ponaalo sandhoshamae with ada kala, naLinaththai paarthaal naLini OF ada manmadhan rakshikkanum (oru thalai raagam?). Because this song also is of similar type of the uchchakkattam song. I even think that the TR song got its inspiration from this uchchakkattam song.
  
  
• From: sabesan (@ 170.35.240.203) on: Wed Jul 31 09:45:07 EDT 2002
  
  Malaraee Ennennaa Kolaaam,
  Edhanaaal En Meedhu Kobaaam
  
  this song from "Auto Raja" - was a wonderful piece by SG.....
  
  
• From: naaz (@ 24.76.127.63) on: Wed Jul 31 09:50:25 EDT 2002
  
  Outsider -
  
  My email address is naaz99@yahoo.com
  
  
• From: Kaumudi (@ 136.142.153.250) on: Wed Jul 31 10:01:42 EDT 2002
  
  Someone here mentioned "Megamae megamae" by VJ is one of the copied composition of S-G. This is news to me. The original is in Telugu - "Maeghamaa daehamaa", soothing rendition by SJ, a super hit song in Andhra. The music for this song was composed by a once-upon-a-time busy MDs Rajan-Nagendra. These guys along with Chakravarthy were ruling TeFM until IR came into the picture and literally put everyone else out of business :-)
  
  
• From: Edward Grieg (@ 12.37.5.68) on: Wed Jul 31 10:27:24 EDT 2002
  
  enga chinna raasa - by SG
  
  
• From: av (@ 203.197.83.23) on: Wed Jul 31 13:14:27 EDT 2002
  
  kaumudi:
  
  both "meghame meghame" and "yaarathu sollamal" are copied from Jagjit Singh's ghazals. the former is TUM NAHIN GHAM NAHIN. I can't recall the other one. A list of copied songs by Shankar Ganesh will run into several pages :-) And I used to formerly think that only North Indian MDs (eg: R D Burman) copy :-)
  
  
  
• From: MusicMouse (@ 61.1.212.232) on: Wed Jul 31 15:13:05 EDT 2002
  
  Hey what a wrong information
  
  Guru was done by IR
  
  
  
• From: MusicMouse (@ 61.1.212.232) on: Wed Jul 31 15:13:26 EDT 2002
  
  Hey what a wrong information
  
  Guru was done by IR
  
  
  
• From: av (@ 143.127.3.10) on: Wed Jul 31 23:26:18 EDT 2002
  
  Of course GURU was by IR. He had called a special orchestra from Hungary for the music of the film. The music of GURU is simply mindblowing...and what beautiful renditions by Sujaatha!!
  
  
• From: outsider (@ 66.119.34.39) on: Thu Aug 1 06:51:25 EDT 2002
  
  Kaumudi, some corrections to your posting, to keep the record
  straight.
  "The music for this song was composed by a once-upon-a-time busy MDs Rajan-Nagendra."
  Let us make this "once-upon-a time" a bit specific. Raajan-Naagendra
  were busiest from about 1970 to about 1985. Then Hamsalekha (or
  Hamselekha?) overtook the control from them in Kannada.
  "These guys along with Chakravarthy were ruling TeFM until IR came into the picture and literally put everyone else out of business :-)"
  These guys were not ruling in Telugu FM, rather it was Kannada
  film music. The duo was identical to Lakshmikaant-pyaarelaal of
  Hindi film music in many ways. The duo of R-N like L-P was synonymous
  with melody and quite consisent high quality. R-N made occasional
  forays into Telgoo in early 1980's. Chakraavarty too was ruling Telgoo
  in the same period - early 70's to 1985. Only then iIlai Raaja started
  to dominate even Telugoo.
  
  
  
• From: Kupps (@ 156.153.255.126) on: Thu Aug 1 07:08:45 EDT 2002
  
  av,
  
  The film GURU they are talking about is a thamizh film released during early 80s. It had KamalaHaasan and Sridevi in lead role. The music for that Guru was also done by IR. The film GURU you are referring to is MalayaaLam film released in late 90s.
  
  
• From: Ragapravaham Sundar (@ 61.11.82.164) on: Thu Aug 1 07:50:55 EDT 2002
  
  Hi outsider,
  Congratulations to you for starting a fresh page for SG.Prolific music composers after MSV/TKR. Very true. Of their earlier compositions, En kadhal kanmani (Manjal Kunguman?), Poovinum melliya (kannan varuvan), AAdiyiley perukkeduthu(radha), Akhilamellam vilangum (amman arul)are some examples. Continue sir...
  
  

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