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Vairamuthu's Algorithm for Lyrics

Topic started by Sathiya Keerthi (@ synergy.nus.edu.sg) on Mon Mar 16 01:09:54 EST 1998.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

I recently came across the following (old) article
by Ramesh Mahadevan on how Vairamuthu follows
certain formulas for writing lyrics.

http://www.indolink.com/tamil/cinema/Features/Misc/algorithm/algorithm.htm

I am starting this thread to discuss these and
other formulas in TFM. Did Kannadhasan or Vaali
have any formulas at all?

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Responses:

• Old responses
  
• From: Ramki (@ wll030.wmlib.wmich.edu) on: Wed Mar 18 09:42:56 EST 1998
  
  'kodi asaindhadhum katru vandhadha'
  'thanimaiyile inimai kaana mudiyuma'
  
  
• From: Ramaswamy Gireesan (@ m42.m59.big.ac.at) on: Wed Mar 18 14:24:56 EST 1998
  
  Deviating slightly from the topic, my sister and I found out that the song 'azhagu sirikkinRadhu, Asai thudikkinRathu' to be the ideal running commentary song.
  
  G. Ramaswamy
  
  P.S. Does this running commentary suit the situation in any way? To me the lyrics sound silly.
  
  
• From: Ramki (@ nas01ppp214.apts.wmich.edu) on: Wed Mar 18 15:01:29 EST 1998
  
  few more:
  
  paniyilladha margazhiya
  koondhal karuppu
  
  
• From: RV (@ 209.172.108.20) on: Wed Mar 18 15:16:31 EST 1998
  
  Kalangalil Aval Vasantham
  
  Technically, this is a list song. I wish there are more such songs!
  
  
• From: Ravi (@ greed.cs.umass.edu) on: Wed Mar 18 20:56:48 EST 1998
  
  Is thanjavooru manneduththu also a formula song?
  
  
• From: Bhaskar (@ ww-tb02.proxy.aol.com) on: Wed Mar 18 22:21:37 EST 1998
  
  Ravi:
  
  If thajavoor mannedudhu is an Algorithm Song, then
  
  Sivappu coloru chingu chaan
  Manja coloru chingu chaan
  Paccha coloru chingu chaan
  Blue coloru chingu chaan
  Green coloru chingu chaan
  Violet coloru chingu chaan
  
  should also be a Algorithm song :-)))))))))
  
  
• From: Bhaskar (@ ww-tb02.proxy.aol.com) on: Wed Mar 18 22:36:51 EST 1998
  
  Keerthi Sir,
  
  Neenga enna ippadi kalakki irukeenga :-))))))
  
  Adhae VM formulaa-la naan onnu sollatumaaa ?
  
  Sathiya Keerthi Saar ippadi nagaichuvaiyaaga Joke adippadhu adhisayam :-))))))))))))))))
  
  Sathiya Keerthi Saar Vairamuthuvai pugazhvadhum adhisayam :-))))))))))))))))))
  
  Sathiiya Keerthi Saar ippadi pudhiya paadalgalai analyse seivadhum adhisayam :-))))
  
  Sathiya Keerthi Saar ippadi ARR songs pattri pOttruvadhum adhisayam :-))))))))))
  
  Sathiya Keerthi Saar indha 50 Kg Taj Mahalil kandu piditha arthamum adhisayam :-)))))))
  
  
• From: Bhaskar (@ ww-tb02.proxy.aol.com) on: Wed Mar 18 23:04:36 EST 1998
  
  
  
  Some Algorithm Songs by Kannadhasan.
  
  SK Sir, neenga indha paadalgal romba special appdinnu sollalaam, nalla interpretation kooda kudukkalaam, naan adha thadukkala :-))))))))))))
  
  Movie: IdhayaKamalam
  PS
  Kannadhasan
  
  Unnai kaanadha kaNNum kaN alla
  Unnai ennaadha Nenjum nenj alla
  Nee solladha sollum soll alla
  Nee illamal naanum naan alla
  
  Inghu nee oru paadhi
  Naan oru paadhi
  Yaar pirindhaalum vaedhanai paadhi
  
  
  Movie: ThaiyaiKaatha thanayan (1962)
  TMS & PS
  Kanndhasan
  Devar Films
  
  
  Kaavaeri karai irukku
  Karai maelae poov irukku
  Poo pOla pen irukku
  Purindhu kondaal urava irukku
  
  Panja varnna kili irukku
  Pazhuthu vandha pazham irukku
  Nenjinale ninaivu irukku
  Nerungi vandhaal uravu irukku
  
  EnnammO pOl irukku
  EppadiyO mansu irukku
  Vellam pOl ninavu irukku
  Vetkkam mattum thaduthu irukku
  
  
  
  
  Paarthaen sirithaen pakkathil azhaithaen
  Unai thaen ninai thaen enai thaen
  andha malai thaen idhu vena malai thaen
  
  
  
  
• From: Kanchana (@ ww-tp06.proxy.aol.com) on: Thu Mar 19 09:13:33 EST 1998
  
  Bhaskar:
  Even tho pArththEn sounds like a formula song, because of the wordplay in it, it is more like aththikkAi kAi kAi song. Wonder if it
  is a formula song?! Keerthi, what do you think?
  
  Also, the correct lines:
  pArththEn siriththEn pakkaththil azhaiththEn
  unaith thEn ena nAn ninaiththEn
  andha malaiththEn idhuvena malaiththEn
  
  
• From: Satish (@ pulsar.cs.umn.edu) on: Thu Mar 19 13:12:44 EST 1998
  
  SK:
  How about "kallellaam manikka kal aagumaa?" (VR), "kaLappadam engum edhilum kaLappadam" (GR, Kannadasan). (The 'kaLappadam' song has a line, 'nalla Thamizh padathinile naalu baashai kaLappadam!'. That was in early 1950s! and people are now complaining it is a new trend?!). Also the 'kaLappadam' song is like Vaali's "subha dhinam" song (another line in "shubha dhinam" is - 'lottery ceettil latcham vizhundhaal kidaipavarkE adhu shubha dhinam'). Vaali also wrote the 'Ethir Neechal' title song ('vetri venduma pOttu paarada ethir neechal'), which is a big list again.
  N.S.Krishnan had a list song in "Mudhal Thedhi". Wasn't his 'sirippu' also in the same category? What about his "Panam" song?
  What about Kannadasan's "nadhi engey pogiradhu, kadalai thedi"?
  Who wrote the "koodhal karuppu. kumgumam sivappu." song?
  
  Vairamuthu in Ratchagan has the "kanava? illai kaatra? kaiyil midharkum kanava nee? kai kaaL mulaitha kaatra nee? kaiyil yendhiyum ganakka villaiye?". I almost expected to hear the line "Vairamuthu ezhudiya kavidhaiyaa nee? PoruL purindhum ganakka villaiye?!"
  
  
• From: Kanchana (@ ww-tp05.proxy.aol.com) on: Thu Mar 19 13:51:58 EST 1998
  
  Bhaskar:
  Your adhisayam formula application to Keerthi is humorous!
  
  Satish:
  I think kaNNadhAsan wrote koondhal karuppu kungumam sivappu when he shifted to the DMK party (used it as a vehicle to talk about the party colors).
  
  Some more to topic...
  kAlaiyum nIyE mAlaiyum nIyE--thEnilavu (lovely song!)
  viNNukku mElAdai--Q&A list song from nANal
  oorvasi oorvasi take it easy oorvasi--kAdhalan
  
  Here is a song from Vairamuththu/ARR that I really do like, where VM uses one formula in the pallavi and another formula in charaNam 1.
  
  pallavi:
  en mEl vizhundha mazhaiththuLiyE
  iththanai nALAi engirundhAi
  indRu ezhudhiya en kaviyE
  iththanai nALAi engirundhAi
  ennai ezhuppia poongAtRE
  iththanai nALAi engirundhAi
  ennai mayakkiya mellisaiyE
  iththanai nALAi engirundhAi
  udambil uRaigindRa Oruyir pOl
  unakkuLthAnE nAn irundhEn
  
  charaNam1:
  maNNaith thiRandhAl nIr irukkum
  en manadhaith thiRandhAl nI iruppAi
  .....& so on
  
  
• From: Test (@ freeway.proxy.lucent.com) on: Thu Mar 19 16:00:01 EST 1998
  
  Test Post
  
  
• From: Test (@ freeway.proxy.lucent.com) on: Thu Mar 19 16:14:47 EST 1998
  
  Test Post
  
  
• From: Bhaskar (@ freeway.proxy.lucent.com) on: Thu Mar 19 16:46:14 EST 1998
  
  Geetha:
  
  First, ungal analysis of ARR's JEANS as a Navarathna Idli was really superb, I could smell the idli's, various chutneys like, Abheri, Suddha Dhaniya, and various other side dishes.
  
  Also, DevavOda Uppuma, VidyaSaagar Kurma, kooda andha Idlieenga koda kalandhu sappitaal konjam taste soopera irukkumnnu sonnenga. Try Pannraen.
  
  Micheal Jackson-ukku kooda Nammooru Classical theriyumaaa ? :-))))) Aduthu ennOda padathirkku MJ dhaan MD :-))))))) Andha Abheri Raagauthala dhaan ellam pattu pOda sollamnnu irukkaen :-)))
  (Thalaivaa adhu enna! Pun Intended, Neenga enna "Fun Intended" badhil "Off Course-maadiri" "Pun Intended" appdinnu solreengala ?, appdinna thamaasunnu dhaana artham) (I don't want to take risk using your Pun, Fun Intended Geetha!)
  
  Naan munbae sonnaen namma Deva, ARR vettukku Dinner pOi irundhaarnnu :-)))) Maybe Vidya Saagar Lunch-ukku pOnaarO ennamO :-))) EnnODa UyirOdu Uyiraaga irukkum ARR-ukku theriyaamal indhO ennudaya Oru pudhumaiyaana Padayal :-)))
  
  Innikku enna aanalum sari Mariyal Dhaaan :-)))))))))) "Off-Course" :-))
  
  All in all, Kaadhalukku Mariyadhai was a very good album, very listenable and I for one thoroughly enjoyed it; not to cause too much controversy,
  it is miles better than ARR's JEANS - hope the film is the same, JEANS will definitely put me to sleep if at all I see the cinema. :-))))))
  
  
  Kadhalukku Mariyadhai kudukkalaenna JEANS-yae kidayadhunga Geetha :-)))))).
  
  BS:
  
  There can be ONLY ONE Thalaivaa and it is our NOV, neenga kooda indha Katchiyula saerdhudugalaen, ennai Thalaivaa, appadinnu koopudaadheenga.
  Approm, Namma ooru politics maadiri aagivudum, vaendaam, NOV dhaan namma Thalaivar endrendrum :-)))))))))))))))))))
  
  Glad to know that you enjoyed my comments. :-))
  
  Ramki:
  
  
  Naan appavae JEANS-a kaanOm, T-Shirt-aa kaanOmmnuu Odi vittaen :-))))) Neenga paarkkala :-)))))))))))
  
  Ellam OrE Gujjaal pannraangappa :-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
  
  Arul:
  
  Neenga enga pOneenga, neegalum unga andha Jiljilukku Jilpa comments edhuvum illaiyaaa :-))))))))))))))))))))))))
  
  NOV:
  
  I cracked up when you said Dai, neeyae sondhammai pOi thoongu :-)))
  Vaera Vazhi :-))))))))))))))))))))))
  
  Keerthi Sir:
  
  Andha paadal Vairamuthu Algorithm vacchu dhaan oru Guess :-))))))))
  
  Serious: Munbu oru murai ages back, this song appeared in Ananda Vikatan Naan adha oru thread-la post panni, approm, enakku oru pathu mail vandhu
  eppo kaetteenga patta, JEANS soopera irukka ? Enga kaeteenga endru :-)))) OrE anbu thollaigalaaa pOivittadhu :-))))))))))))))))
  
  Naan innum JEANS paadalgal kaetkkavillai.
  
  Ramki:
  
  Andha idi minnal kaattru inga USA-ukku eppO vara pOgudhu :-)))))))
  
  
  
• From: Bhaskar (@ freeway.proxy.lucent.com) on: Thu Mar 19 16:51:39 EST 1998
  
  Oh! my God! I think I posted in the wrong Thread!
  Engappa indha Jeans thread pOchu ?
  
  Friends please disregard the above pOst.
  
  

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