Topic started by UV (@ 134.113.203.137) on Tue May 8 12:46:02 EDT 2001.
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Guys
I recently happen to read the interview of
the prime suspect in the murder case of Gulshan kumar Mr.Nadeem who convinently espaced the hands of law is now in London,is composing music for hindi movies and also gives good interviews!!
In his latest he interviews he has the audacity to claim that ARR is at his worst and will fadeway and was kind enough to give Taal 70/100.
Guys its time we put these jealous and overproud north MD in their place.
IR lost the battle,and they did the injustics towards Vani Jayaram,even Chitra complained about this back stabbing,only our ARR is the guy who made impact in north now there is a sabatoge going against him also
click here to rediff this outrageous interview
http://www.rediff.com/entertai/2001/may/08nadeem.htm
Rediff they are also m'orons when it comes to south cine industry
Responses:
- From: AyoAyo (@ 143.117.11.25)
on: Tue May 8 14:01:28 EDT 2001
Let the morons north indian be morons always ..
ARR and IR is the greatest music director in india and IR is simply a lgend
- From: A.A (@ 203.199.231.156)
on: Tue May 8 14:14:26 EDT 2001
Aaiyiram Kaigal....sorry ..Kaidhigal maraithu nindralum...Aadhavan Rehman...Maraivadhillai .aA
- From: sats (@ 139.177.224.100)
on: Tue May 8 14:44:45 EDT 2001
The funniest part is even if ARR is at his worst he is still more popular than Nadeem, then imagine how worst nadeem would be,even though iam an IR fan cant listen to some junk guy talking something junk abt ARR
- From: bm (@ 172.140.231.40)
on: Tue May 8 15:48:25 EDT 2001
We can all use this interview when in need of some good laughter...! ultimately funny stuff ..calls himself a diamond...ha !
- From: aruvi (@ 204.50.249.133)
on: Tue May 8 15:52:15 EDT 2001
Hey man...I don't think Chithra would come outright and accuse someone...do you have proof?
- From: UV (@ 134.113.203.137)
on: Tue May 8 16:16:38 EDT 2001
Mr Aruvi
She did say that they record her song,but someone will make some calls and finally the song will never get in the audio casettes and the film.
Read her interview in Minambalam you will know.
Ofcourse she didnt say its Latha Mangeshkar or someone,but most of us know anyway
- From: aruvi (@ 204.50.249.133)
on: Tue May 8 17:39:57 EDT 2001
Mrs.UV
It just so happens that I were the one who opened a thread for that interview. But in that, she did not complain about anyone. She was asked a question, and she had merely stated that she has so far sung 50 songs in hindi and that sometimes they don't release the song, or someone else sings it. But that was merely stating the obvious. She did mention that she doesn't think much of it all. But in any event, having other singers dub over for already recorded songs is not new. IR and ARR have both done it.
As far as Nadeem is concerned, I don't think anyone need pay attention to his statements, solely because the man makes such remarks to grab attention. Knowing that reporters would love to print those spicy comments in bold:-). Afterall, the man has only been saying negative things about Rahman since the beginning of Rahman's career. So let's leave it at that.
On one hand there is a thread asking if Rahman is a Tamilian and now this:-))
Anyhow...TIE.
- From: kk (@ 198.4.92.5)
on: Tue May 8 19:20:33 EDT 2001
Come on, UV,
Hindi filmworld is a differnt domain. And People talking with bigmouth in common here. And no one expects anyone to be humble and respectful to anyone. IMO Nadeem pair is realy good and many of their songs are in par if not better than ARR, if you strip of the sound factor. But, ARR is better off in his variety.
But why do you think this is a sobotage? this is just like kumar sanu or SAR bad mouthing. How is Nadeem doing to affect ARR's career?. ( Except for his underworld connections ).
We should not take such things serious. He said Rahman will be out in 5 yrs, 5 years before!. so forget it.
- From: S T S (@ 63.192.137.254)
on: Tue May 8 19:32:37 EDT 2001
aruvi,
What UV said is correct. I read the complete interview and Chitra did mention that some of her songs were re-sung by someone else and released and she was not aware of any reasons (praise her songs and replace them with someone later for reasons not known to her)
STS
- From: S.P MAHENDRAN (@ 161.139.38.226)
on: Tue May 8 21:11:50 EDT 2001
A.R Rahman is nothing.What is Nadeem said is true.His music is really worst and rubbish.Better A.R quit Film Music.There is one and only Genius and Legend in film music that is Maestro Illaiyaraja.
- From: aruvi (@ 204.50.249.133)
on: Tue May 8 23:57:07 EDT 2001
SPM..
Apallam..Urukaa...Vadai:-)
- From: cosmician (@ 194.170.127.53)
on: Wed May 9 03:52:13 EDT 2001
I really don't understand the stupidity of our lawmakers....Bharath Shah the producer was jailed for underworld funding of his film - if these @#$% lawmakers were really concerned...they should've banned the film "Chori Chori Chupke Chupke" throughout India and abroad...instead they make dumb statements like the film will be banned in Mumbai alone. The same goes for Nadeem...if there is a case against him in India and he is absconding then it should be made unlawful for any filmmaker to utilise his services...I really don't understand this %$#@#$$ !!!!! :(
- From: ruben (@ 203.106.162.177)
on: Wed May 9 14:06:25 EDT 2001
hey S.P.Mahendran,
u should remember one thing...ARR has contributed
a lot to not only tfm , but also in hindi film music as well....he has excelled himself in creating a dynamic sound...he had broken the barrier of music with his non-stop hit score....from his first Roja till his recent Lagaan.....he has proven that he's
cannot be beaten easily....he stands on par with
IR in terms of quality....i think the MD's that should be out of field are Deva, SAR and Sirpy...
- From: lv (@ 203.199.130.116)
on: Wed May 9 23:38:32 EDT 2001
guys, what has been said of ARR is unfair, but Vani Jairam lost due to her bad accent and her shrill nasal tones. She was definitely nowhere near Asha and Lata. Even in the south she lost the battle to Janaki and P Susheela.
- From: Critic (@ 64.228.138.108)
on: Thu May 10 00:26:47 EDT 2001
Chappaaththi chappaaththi thaan Rotti Rotti thaan.....
- From: Neel (@ 64.3.200.80)
on: Thu May 10 00:33:20 EDT 2001
lv,
Vani Jayaram won P.Susheela in the battle. Vani was the Diva of mid 70s. She lost the battle not to Janaki but to IR in the south. So did PS, LRE and TMS. As for her battle in the north we know all about it already.
- From: Karthik S (@ 164.164.82.20)
on: Mon May 14 01:23:48 EDT 2001
How dare Nadeem make such comments? Nadeem Shravan's second innings is far more un-original than their first. They are going the sirpi way - with blatant plagiarism from Middle Eastern songs. Listen to the original of their recent Dhadkan number 'dil ne yeh kaha hai'!
http://blake.prohosting.com/~cyan1/ahibbaklaih.rm
The original song is called Ahibbak Laih by Saudi Arabian singer Abdel Majeed Abdullah, from his album Raheeb. Moreover NS's other recent songs including Dhadkan's 'aksar is duniya mein' and Kasoor's 'kitne bechain' are copied too! I'm looking for the originals right now! Will post them soon!
- From: raj (@ 212.153.190.3)
on: Mon May 14 05:24:27 EDT 2001
UV and others,
Will u leave Lata out of this please?
Lata hardly sings a dozen songs yearly now.
In this scenario she would be the last person to be involved in Chitra episode.
I dont know why you people cant digest facts even when people take pains to explain u.
She ruled becuase she was the best.There cant be anyone like her.
Can u accuse Raja of supressing others simple bcos he was there for a long time- or SPB for that matter.
Raja ruled b'cos of his genius.
Its the same with Lata. She is loved by millions and adored more than anyone else has been.
Raja has been inspired by greats like S.D.Burman (before u react- he himself has told these
things.Song Injii iddupu from Devar Magan is inspired from a Lata-Rafi hit of SD).
The genius of past HF MD's cannot be questioned.(But u guys can - even without knowing them or listning to their music).
These MD's could not be dictated by a singer. If they didnt want anyone other than her it was purely bcos of what magic
she did to their songs. Its not something which people just say- Her songs are the proof.
Though repeating a song is easy - till now no one has done justice to the songs she has sung after early 60's.
MD's have even said with Lata they could think of any abstract/complex number bcos only she could do more than justice to those.
In fact she has defined playback singing. Listen the voices/style before she was there.
She has the biggest fan following,almost every erson in the same field regards her the best. What other proof do u guys want.
But some people like u sitting in one corner of the world wont listen to anyone.For u, ur room is the whole world.U can have that
stupid view but that wont change the world.
OPEN UR EARS AND MINDS...
- From: raj (@ 212.153.190.3)
on: Mon May 14 05:37:34 EDT 2001
As far the current topic:
Nadeem is just trying to be in news. Standard formula:Choose someone who is doing well and
throw dirt.
He couldnt beat ARR with music, so now is using his mouth.
IGNORE THE Lesser being..
- From: cosmician (@ 194.170.1.130)
on: Mon May 14 07:58:59 EDT 2001
Good work ...Karthik..these guys need their pants pulled down
- From: Krk (@ 64.104.128.15)
on: Mon May 14 08:03:21 EDT 2001
cosmician,
:-)
- From: Karthik S (@ 164.164.82.20)
on: Mon May 14 08:15:00 EDT 2001
Cosmician:
I'd have least bothered if NS had chosen not to talk about such things to press. The same was the case with Sandeep. These guys sell their conscience and talk to press as if they are into something spiritual. And worse they abuse other composers too!
I'm extremely pissed with Sandeep Chowta and Subash K Jha's spineless rejoinders about Sandeep's plagiarism...this after I had sent him the original song clips of songs of Pyar Tune Kya Kiya. I'm in fact going out of the way to see what can be done. I'm trying to figure out the original record labels of Bram Stroker's Dracula and The Exorcist II The Heretic and trying to communicate them the info.
I'm sure I will not end up anywhere but at least let me try. If some Indian lawyer can sure McDonalds for Ham in French Fries, its high time somebody took action on Indian composers copying left right and center as if its their appan veettu sothu. More than any abuse the one word which comes to my mind is 'padupaavingala'!
- From: lv (@ 203.197.80.33)
on: Mon May 14 08:48:15 EDT 2001
dear guys, - UV or Aruvi:
Chitra is a big fan of Lata. She cheerfully admits that Lata has been her greatest inspiration and is much above her. Lata sings badly nowadays and her songs are very few. So its 100% sure that Lata did not steal any of her songs - maybe it was Alka or Kavita. Moreover Chitra suffers from bad Hindi accent. Leave Lata out of this - she is India's most acclaimed musician (more than ANY classical singer TOO) and is a noble,humble person.
As far as what Nadeem says about ARR is like an ant trying to trample an elephant. Ignoring him is the only good thing to do
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