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Good Music System

Topic started by Ramanan (@ faraday.bfsec.bt.co.uk) on Thu Aug 13 09:16:10 EDT 1998.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

We are all lovers of good music . So naturally that must mean a good music system. Which is the best you have come across ?
High end systems like BOSE, ONKYO or some other thing like Kenwood.
I am thinking of buying one.
expecting your suggestions.

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Responses:

• From: pg (@ gate02.merck-medco.com) on: Thu Aug 13 09:45:36 EDT 1998
  
  Check this site :
  
  http://www.goodsound.com
  
  Depends on your budget.
  
  IMHO : DON'T BUY BOSE ! There are much better systems available for less. E-mail me for more info.
  
  I recently spent abt $3.5k My system : Marantz SR-680 receiver (Dolby Digital); Marantz cc-48 5 CD changer; Marantz Dual Cassette Deck; Panasonic A110 DVD Player. Speakers : Energy Pro 3.5 (Front); Pro 2.5 (Rear); CC-2 (Center); ES-8 Sub Woofer.
  
  I use it for HT & Music. I listen to music in Phantom Pro-Logic mode
  
  
• From: Ravi (@ envy.cs.umass.edu) on: Thu Aug 13 10:30:05 EDT 1998
  
  Guys.. please stick to the TFM and technology thread for this kind of discussions. Thanks.
  
  
• From: kiruba (@ slipper.watcom.on.ca) on: Thu Aug 13 15:07:20 EDT 1998
  
  The low end of the high end starts with
  
  NAD/Rotel/Parasound - for amps
  PSB/Paradigm - for speakers
  
  At the high end you can go for
  Arcam/Sunfire - for amps
  Thiel/Martin Logan - for speakers
  
  But even with the low end you will start hearing the bad recording on Indian made CDs (the new ones are okay). This is my gripe with the Indian music industry. Especially it is difficult to get good CDs of IRs 80s music.
  
  
• From: kiruba (@ slipper.watcom.on.ca) on: Thu Aug 13 15:28:42 EDT 1998
  
  PG,
  Sounds like you have got a good system.
  But usually I suggest that people go for separates - preamp-amp-speakers.
  Ofcourse, I do not have separates. I only have an Integrated Amp (NAD 304). I couldnt afford separates at that time. It doubles the cost of the amp subsystem.
  
  
• From: Arvind Kumar. (@ ip85.santa-clara6.ca.pub-ip.psi.net) on: Thu Aug 13 18:52:26 EDT 1998
  
  PG,
  
  What is the use of having such top class music
  system if you are going to listen to IR's songs.
  IMHO IR's recording is sub standard.
  
  
• From: Srikanth (@ proxy1.sch.prodigy.net) on: Thu Aug 13 21:30:13 EDT 1998
  
  Yep!,
  Aravind is right, to enjoy modern music you need to spend around $3500+, but except sound recording quality you will not get any other musical pleasures.
  
  To listen to msv or raja it is enough you have $10, you will get all the musical pleasures other the recording quality.
  
  Srikanth
  
  
• From: shankar (@ webgate0.mot.com) on: Fri Aug 14 04:23:34 EDT 1998
  
  I think aravind should listen to Guru or some recent movies of IR in a GOOD MUSIC SYSTEM to comment on the recording qlty.
  
  
• From: Kiruba (@ slipper.watcom.on.ca) on: Fri Aug 14 15:20:39 EDT 1998
  
  New movies of IR seem to have good recording. As long as you record directly on digital tapes. It should be okay. But IR seems to be swayed by public opinion created by ARR that electronics is good. Kadhalukku Mariyadhai uses electronics. I would prefer to stick to the real instruments but record them well.
  
  
• From: pg (@ client-151-198-136-40.bellatlantic.net) on: Fri Aug 14 19:02:09 EDT 1998
  
  India's-greatest-sound-engineer pathi pEsa vENdAm-nu pAthA vida mAtteenga pOlirikkE !
  
  
• From: srikanth (@ slip-32-101-16-45.il.us.ibm.net) on: Sat Aug 15 01:25:20 EDT 1998
  
  Pg: Are you talk about ARr as sound engineer!.. if so we can discuss more.
  Srikanth
  
  
• From: kiruba (@ slipper.watcom.on.ca) on: Mon Aug 17 20:44:28 EDT 1998
  
  Ramanan,
  You live in England ?? That's where most of the good music systems get made. I am planning to stop by in London next month on my way to India. I am hoping to pick up an integrated amp for my brother. Probably you can help me with locations of the shops.
  
  
• From: kiruba (@ slipper.watcom.on.ca) on: Mon Aug 17 20:45:39 EDT 1998
  
  Sound Engineers,
  I think there is an acute of sound engineering talent in India I think. I think the booming software industry is to be blamed for this :-)
  
  
• From: Ramanan (@ faraday.bfsec.bt.co.uk) on: Tue Aug 18 10:09:00 EDT 1998
  
  Kiruba: I live in Belfast. That is the problem:-(. But if you have anything in Mind , Please email me .I will see what i can do. I got a few friends there in London.:-)
  
  
• From: sam (@ ecarh29c.nortel.ca) on: Tue Aug 18 23:27:15 EDT 1998
  
  for home, use Technics
  
  for car, use Alpine
  
  I just find them great!
  
  
• From: kiruba (@ slipper.watcom.on.ca) on: Sun Aug 23 19:44:57 EDT 1998
  
  Ramanan,
  I have decided to buy Arcam Integrated Amp here itself. So thanks for your offer. I have decided to fly via Frankfurt (saving $50 CDN). Arcams seem to be good. They are available at $400, $600 and $900 US. I might buy the lowest priced one for my brothers in India.
  
  BTW, While listening to 'Iruvar' I found that LP click/noise have been added to 'Poo kodiyin punnagai' song at 4:20 and 4:58. Cute idea, isnt it. ??
  
  
• From: Ravi (@ envy.cs.umass.edu) on: Mon Aug 24 10:54:59 EDT 1998
  
  kiruba: I never noticed it before. Yeah, you are right - cute idea. :-).
  
  
• From: MPR (@ ca30.cc.ndsu.nodak.edu) on: Tue Aug 25 12:47:17 EDT 1998
  
  pg:
  
  How do you feel about Ilaiyaraaja's new albums
  while listening in your audio system? Do you
  see any improvements in his recording?
  
  
• From: kiruba (@ slipper.watcom.on.ca) on: Tue Aug 25 17:29:54 EDT 1998
  
  MPR,
  I will answer the question directed at PG.
  I have KM,Kadavul,RamanAbdulla with my NAD Int. Amp/PSB speaker combo. Sounds better than his prev recordings. I even like it better than Minsara Kanavu recoding, Iruvar is good.
  ARR is using synthesised drums/percussion (IR is also doing now ..what a pity) that is why it kinda sounds so clean.
  But KM is surely IR style back in new/high tech recording.
  
  
• From: kiruba (@ slipper.watcom.on.ca) on: Tue Aug 25 18:33:33 EDT 1998
  
  Ravi,
  you probably also noticed the clock ticking sound in 'Innodu naan iruntha ovOru manithuliyum' song.
  
  (I learnt a new technique yesterday to get more clean bass out of your speakers. put sand in big ziploc bags and put it on top of your speakers. Make sure the stands are sturdy though. I am assuming the stands are also weighted with lead shots or sand).
  
  
• From: kiruba (@ slipper.watcom.on.ca) on: Tue Aug 25 19:18:24 EDT 1998
  
  check out http://www.soundstage.com
  This is a high-end music site. So watch out and hold on to your wallet !! :-) :-)
  
  
• From: pg (@ client-116-6.bellatlantic.net) on: Tue Aug 25 20:41:25 EDT 1998
  
  The latest IR albums KM, poondhOttam, NMH, veera thAlAttu, Kaliyoonjal, kumbakOnam kobaLu all sound excellent. HMV's kangalin vArthaigal is utter trash. thenpANdi seemaiyilE (I have 3 different versions !) is bad recording - seems to be im mono !
  All tamil recordings arr/ir included are badly recorded in this aspect - they don't resolve the 's' sound properly. From iruvar/minsAra kanavu to poondhOttam, the 's' sound (like in 'sol'..) is recorded poorly - a lot of pisur. MK is a very good example. I am a ARR basher - but I have both cassette and CD versions of MK/iruvar/ratchagan !
  
  Supposedly the 's' sound is the most difficult sound to record properly.
  
  
• From: MPR (@ dyn07.iacc-t23.ndsu.nodak.edu) on: Wed Aug 26 00:04:12 EDT 1998
  
  kiruba, pg:
  
  Thanks for your reply. Recently I listened to
  'agni natchaththiram' songs in one of my friend's
  system (Technics). No words can describe
  'oru pOOngAvanam' song. The cassette was recorded
  pretty well with equalizer from CD in India and
  sounds great to me. I was wondering if that song
  in Technics sounds this much good, how it will be
  in your system. Hope you guys are really enjoying
  :-)
  
  
• From: kiruba (@ slipper.watcom.on.ca) on: Wed Aug 26 00:38:14 EDT 1998
  
  Well.. let me put it this way. I consider the money spent on my audio system as the best expenditure I've ever made. Even now, I lugged a 30kg bag of sand up to my 5th floor apt, filled my speaker stands with it. Also, filled two ziploc bags which are sitting on top of my speakers. I can surely feel a slighter better bass resolution. I am listening to 'pattaampoochi' song because Srikanth said he didnt like the drums in it.
  Ahh..it is not drums man ..it is all synthesised percussion. The whole KM is full of it. I hate when people do that (even Eric Clapton). Anyways, KM has orthodox IR style written all over it so I am enjoying it.
  
  I am going to India in Sept. Now that I have also located some audio restoration software. I am going to get all the CDs i like, especially IR's. Then it could be more fun.
  
  
• From: Bhaskar (@ carefree.proxy.lucent.com) on: Wed Aug 26 15:12:07 EDT 1998
  
  PG, MPR, Arvind, Kiruba :
  
  I have a Yamaha RX-V2092 Receiver,
  Yamaha CD player and Tape Deck and Bose Acoutimass 10.
  
  There is lot more music reproduction in such systems and even the old songs of IR seems to
  sound fresh, new and different altogether.
  
  IR's latest Albums KM, Poonthottam, Dharma,
  Kizhakkum Maerkkum, has the sound quality
  that is very much comparable to ARR's recording
  technology.
  
  I was listening to Maalaiyil YaarO manadhOdu paesa, the music reproduction is beautiful
  and the recording of IR at that time itself is
  simply great!
  
  Not to deny that ARR's sound engineering is also
  great! :-))
  
  
• From: kiruba (@ slipper.watcom.on.ca) on: Sun Aug 30 16:53:09 EDT 1998
  
  I bought Poonthottam CD. Yeah, recording is good. But too much of gimmicks. It looks like IR is showing off his new equipment. I hope he gets back to basics. The 'vaanaththu tharakaiyo" song is good except for the 'kannadipaalo' word in the lyric.
  Overall, I think buying a good stereo system for listening to tamil music may not be a bad idea anymore.
  
  (Ramanan, looks like you can get deals on stereo systems in the UK. I bought a 'what hi-fi?' magazine last week and found very deals on it. You dont see such deals in the US or Canada).
  
  
• From: PK (@ node1.allegiance.net) on: Mon Aug 31 16:18:53 EDT 1998
  
  Check out the following Website. I found some very interesting reviews of all kinds of A/V equipment here.
  
  www.sdinfo.com
  
  

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