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Illayaraja student

Topic started by Jeevee (@ 80.9.2.21) on Thu May 6 07:45:26 EDT 2004.
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Hi all !

Would it be possible to have the student name of the great composer Illayaraja other than his son Kartik ?

Thanks,

Jeevee.

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Responses:

• From: Indrajith (@ 203.145.157.94) on: Thu May 6 08:05:51 EDT 2004
  
  Arunmozhi.
  
  
• From: (@ 204.254.175.249) on: Thu May 6 08:38:32 EDT 2004
  
  Muniyandi
  
  
• From: Dorai (@ 198.16.9.11) on: Thu May 6 09:37:32 EDT 2004
  
  There are many students (although noone wants to even mention their guru's name anymore as a reference)
  
  1. AR Rehman (Was a keyboard player)
  2. Deva
  3. Vidhya Sagar (Was a sintoor player)
  
  Other instrumentalist who learned from IR
  1. Sivamani
  2. Son of Kunnakudi Srinivasan (Chello player)
  3. Many flutist and Violinists now in ARR troupe.
  
  
• From: cho (@ 209.47.143.226) on: Thu May 6 10:51:20 EDT 2004
  
  V.S.Narasimman. I heard he is IR's favourite student. IR recommended him for Balachandar's achamillai achamillai. A very talented violists. dont know if he is still with IR.
  
  
• From: jacky (@ 61.1.201.186) on: Thu May 6 11:14:19 EDT 2004
  
  Shenbaga poova parthu was very good.
  
  
• From: Kupps (@ 192.76.80.74) on: Thu May 6 11:14:58 EDT 2004
  
  I donno about deva, ARR, VS. But people like Drums sivamani and V.S.Narasimhan should not be termed as students of IR. They were in IR's troup as performers, they are more than students of IR.
  
  
• From: cho (@ 209.47.143.226) on: Thu May 6 11:19:50 EDT 2004
  
  I agree that Sivamani should not be termed as a Student of IR. He was a freelanser and he worked with many MDs, though mostly with IR in early days.
  
  As long as they stick with IR till the end, we can call them performers.. but if they start producing music on their own after working with IR for a while, it's ok to call them as students of IR.. I guess.
  
  
  
  
• From: MADDY (@ 203.94.234.140) on: Thu May 6 13:49:20 EDT 2004
  
  IR is T.V.Gopalakrishnan's student...does he ever accept it????
  
  
• From: T (@ 210.214.228.129) on: Thu May 6 16:48:58 EDT 2004
  
  IR is semmangudi Iyers student. he has accepted it openly. Did he learn from TVG i dont know.
  ARR was TVG's student.
  
  
• From: SK (@ 66.57.14.197) on: Thu May 6 18:24:49 EDT 2004
  
  For 'raja paarvai' he used the services of TVG and showered praises on him.
  
  
• From: Won-Daring (@ 207.43.195.203) on: Thu May 6 22:57:36 EDT 2004
  
  http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:tYXZXK_SgFUJ:www.tvgmusicgenius.com/page1.html+tvg+on+ilayaraja&hl=en
  
  
• From: cho (@ 209.47.143.226) on: Fri May 7 09:47:21 EDT 2004
  
  MADDY,
  
  
  We are discussing IR's students and IR's teachers.
  
  Edhukku vayatherichal unakku? IR pathi yaaravadhu discuss pannina anga yen nee anaavasiyama mookka nozhaikkara??
  
  Fyi, IR is not TVG's student. He has a lot of
  respect for him (used him for tiktiktik and rajaparvai) and also for all others who
  deserve to be respected..
  
  
• From: Won-Daring (@ 208.24.179.207) on: Fri May 7 10:38:51 EDT 2004
  
  Here is the proof:
  
  http://www.tvgmusicgenius.com/page1.html
  
  
• From: Dorai (@ 198.16.9.10) on: Fri May 7 11:18:07 EDT 2004
  
  IR might have learnt some naunces of carnatic music from TVG. We are not denying that. Infact, IR is very humble enough to admit openly that what he is today is because "of listening to MSV's songs and inspiring from them".
  
  Can you ask ARR to make any such open statements. He talks about spiritualism, ALLAH, etc. But has no decency to admit his learnings from his seniors. He thinks everything is from ALLAH.
  
  
• From: J@cky (@ 61.1.202.79) on: Fri May 7 11:48:49 EDT 2004
  
  Cuz MSV kissed IR on some stage show for making Kanney kalaimaney.
  IR --> Praises MSV
  
  Ithey mari arr .....
  
  Romba chinna payana DDla pathadu mid 80's ippo enna show, athellam kekathinga :)
  Samadanam.
  
  
• From: dinesh (@ 210.186.42.15) on: Fri May 7 12:33:20 EDT 2004
  
  Dei Dorai ,if u didint know ALLAH is definetly higher than ur IR,hope u dun keep IR's photo & do pooja thinking he is 1 deity ( i wont be surprised even if u guys do that,coz u guys r that blind)and please,ARR have mention that IR was his guru b4....if u didint notice!!than too bad!!!
  
  
• From: MADDY (@ 203.94.217.202) on: Fri May 7 12:37:47 EDT 2004
  
  dorai,obviously everything is from allah.......r u stupid enuf to tell that IR and MSV are gr8er than allah or any other god for that matter........
  cho, if it had been only abt. IR i wud have never come here, but when ppl. talk abt. ARR,obviously i'll react.....and one more thing "vayatherichal"is IR-fans's birth right which i cannot even imagine of possessing it......it is the fate of IR-fans that they have to live with ARR's huge success and fume abt......
  
  
• From: rajasaranam (@ 210.214.229.139) on: Fri May 7 13:08:47 EDT 2004
  
  I thought For some days Maddy had been cured from his sickening madness. I think he is not undergoing the treatment which his pshychiatrist has prescribed. his madness is returning..... Plss MAD MAD MADDY it not right for a 9 yr old kid like u to become insane pls continue with the medication for Ur family's sake atleast.
  
  
• From: Gyan (@ 4.158.114.179) on: Fri May 7 13:14:06 EDT 2004
  
  This is a good topic.
  
  
• From: Dorai (@ 198.16.9.10) on: Fri May 7 13:38:44 EDT 2004
  
  I wish MADDY and Dinesh maintains some decency in this forum. Calling names is no good.
  
  What I meant to say is he has not said a single word in praise of IR in his 10 years of TFM direction. When someone asked about what is the best song of IR, he said I do not listen to anyone elses music to avoid inspirations. I know after repeated questions like this, he once said I like 'Enji Eddupazhaga'.
  
  I did not curse ALLAH or anyother god and not equating IR to any god. But ARR does not have the decency to praise a genuinely good superior. When asked about the same question to IR about how he feels about ARR's music he said "Nalla Pannugirar".
  
  
• From: Dorai (@ 198.16.9.10) on: Fri May 7 13:42:07 EDT 2004
  
  MADDY,
  I do not have any "Vatharichal" against ARR and likes his songs as well. Visit the 10 top songs from IR site and you will see how much I like ARR.
  
  Its just his attitude against IR is disgusting to me.
  
  
• From: MADDY (@ 203.94.234.56) on: Fri May 7 13:54:41 EDT 2004
  
  Dorai sire,well, wat u say abt. IR's atttitude abt. ARR...when asked abt. ARR in an interview, he said that
  "when sachin is batting, ppl. watch him intently and suddenly a naked lady comes in front of the audience, they get diverted towards that lady for some time....but they get back to sachin's heroics anyway.....that sachin is me and naked lady is guess who"
  actually this sounds very decent in english......if IR has such "cheap" thinking abt. another artiste then how do u xpect ARR to tell good things abt IR....... IR is a "Fallen figure" in any unbiased tamilian mind after that statement.....make no mistake abt. it......
  
  
• From: dinesh (@ 210.186.42.15) on: Fri May 7 14:12:15 EDT 2004
  
  Guys,hope u remember,Rahman said " Illairaja & me r 1 family" do u see IR said that??i rememmber he said in 1994 " ARR Tamizh Isaiyai Kondruvithan" trans " ARR killed tamizh music"...atlast Rahman bashed IR with Sangamam!!MSV kissed (cheeks) Rahman in a show which honours MSV-Ramumoorthy ... SPB told in the function " I can anytime touch Rahman's feet for his humbleness " ... have he ever said that to IR??
  
  
• From: cn (@ 198.232.250.51) on: Fri May 7 14:58:14 EDT 2004
  
  Maddy,
  
  I think you are referring to the interview IR had with Madhan for Anandha Vikatan. If so, then you got the facts wrong. Let me reproduce the question and IR's answer.
  
  I think this happened in around 1996 and it was the first question to him.
  
  Question : What is reason for your missing presence ("Idaiveli") in TFM?
  IR : You go to the cricket stadium, watch a player (he never mentioned Sachin) scoring fours and sixes. Then suddenly if cini actress comes to the stadium, you can see the audience's attention getting diverted. That's what happened to me. I was still playing well (meaning producing music) but you only missed watching me (meaning, you didn't listen to them).
  
  This is what he said.
  
  
• From: Dorai (@ 198.16.9.10) on: Fri May 7 15:07:27 EDT 2004
  
  CN,
  Well said (By you and IR!!!)
  
  In fact, I remember him saying, I keep producing the same music, people's taste has changed and have stopped listening to my music, but will come back to my music.
  
  
• From: Dorai (@ 198.16.9.10) on: Fri May 7 15:09:05 EDT 2004
  
  Dinesh,
  How did ARR bash IR with Sangamam? (with copied tunes). Varaha nadhikarai oram is a blatant copy of a Bengali song.
  
  
• From: Dorai (@ 198.16.9.10) on: Fri May 7 15:16:35 EDT 2004
  
  The Musical Node is as below
  
  IR
  -> ARR
  -> Deva
  -> HJ
  -> VS
  -> YSR
  -> KR
  -> et al
  
  As you can see IR is at the very top and not on the same latitude as anyone else. He is unique and unparalled.
  
  
  
• From: * (@ 161.114.1.185) on: Fri May 7 15:51:49 EDT 2004
  
  cn, thanks for the clarification.
  Shocked to hear ARR talk about 'naked lady' and other nonsense. Obviously ARR fans are idiots who dont have proper details about ARR, leave alone other MDs :)
  
  

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