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- From: kalai (@ 210.214.114.38)
on: Thu Dec 5 05:29:39 EST 2002
Sudhansu
We are really interested in her songs in malayalam with PJ. Can U write the songs with movie name , MD and lyricts. If possible explain the situation and quality of the song...
"seehdevi swayamvaram Cheithoru " is from mal. film "vazhve maayam".. what about the other songs ?
- From: psfan (@ 203.199.213.3)
on: Thu Dec 5 08:10:18 EST 2002
The pearls by PS,i want to name the songs she sung with Sree p jayachandran.
The song "manivarnanillatha poonkavanam madhumasamunaratha vrundavanam",its shringara bhava by the god and godess of music!ha!what a beautiful!
Another song is"Thirunellikkattilo thiruvathira jattuvela",extremely good.
I personally feel guilty being from a place where the best singer is not awarded for the state award.I am making the statement a crore times,there is nobody to match PS in voice,clarity,bhava,melody or majesty.She is invincible.
- From: kalai (@ 210.214.114.2)
on: Thu Dec 5 12:11:37 EST 2002
She was awarded twice by kerala govt. i think in 1971,1975 (chuvanna sandhyakal).
pl. mention tyhe movie also. do U have those songs ?
- From: Subbu (@ 216.52.49.5)
on: Fri Dec 6 05:14:56 EST 2002
I remember she was awarded for a song from the film "Nellu" in Malayalam. Salil Choudary was th MD, I think.
- From: kalai (@ 210.214.114.46)
on: Fri Dec 6 11:10:40 EST 2002
salil choudry is the MD for "Nellu" and there are two songs for PS. one is "kaadu kulirinu" and the other is "chemba chemba" with Mannadey. I dont know about the award .. pl. clarify
"kaadu kulirinu" song was posted in PS yahoogruops.."
- From: kk (@ 203.199.213.3)
on: Sat Dec 7 02:35:04 EST 2002
Kalai,the hit song 'chemba chemba' with whom u said?It was not manna dey it was PJ.Manna dey's voice is not that good to sing with PS.Pj the emperor sung it,
- From: Subbu (@ 219.65.132.155)
on: Sat Dec 7 06:50:53 EST 2002
i think sudhansu, psfan, kk are all same...
why this kind of canvassing for PJ here in this thread?
nothing wrong to post abt PS+PJ duets.... but always boasting abt PJ in this thread is no fair..
- From: kumud (@ 203.199.213.3)
on: Sun Dec 8 01:11:03 EST 2002
Yes subbu,u are correct.All message to Sri.PJ's fans,be simple and humble like the god of music.That only will help you.NO UNNECESSARY BOASTING,OK.
Live like Sri PJ,folowing his principles.
Subbu,i was invited for a programme by VIJAY TV.Do you know 'Apoorva ragangal'?The programme was good,but was shocked to see an aspect.The name of Sri PJ was written as 'JEYACHANTHIRAN' instead of 'JAYACHANDRAN'.I brought it to the notice of the admin.The reply was 'Saar in our language there is no other way to represent his name'.What do you think about it?
I hope Sri PJ will surely get a NATIONAL AWARD this time.
- From: kumud (@ 203.199.213.3)
on: Sun Dec 8 01:11:10 EST 2002
Yes subbu,u are correct.All message to Sri.PJ's fans,be simple and humble like the god of music.That only will help you.NO UNNECESSARY BOASTING,OK.
Live like Sri PJ,folowing his principles.
Subbu,i was invited for a programme by VIJAY TV.Do you know 'Apoorva ragangal'?The programme was good,but was shocked to see an aspect.The name of Sri PJ was written as 'JEYACHANTHIRAN' instead of 'JAYACHANDRAN'.I brought it to the notice of the admin.The reply was 'Saar in our language there is no other way to represent his name'.What do you think about it?
I hope Sri PJ will surely get a NATIONAL AWARD this time.
- From: pj&ps fan (@ 203.199.213.5)
on: Mon Dec 9 03:16:47 EST 2002
*******CHARACTERISTICE OF THE BEST SINGER IN INDIA*********
1.MELODY:Jayachandran is melody,i am ashamed of stating about such a great person that "JAYACHANDRAN IS
HAVING MELODY ALSO".But yesudas now and then had it.
2.RANGE:Jayachandran's 90% songs had this characteristic.Let me point out some songs which have some less range
Ninpadangalil
Nunakkuzhikavilil
Bhoolokarambhayute
Yesudas's songs have range but equally there are songs which don't have range.It is like 2 faces of a coin
3.SPEED:There is no speed in yesudas's songs.Noone can show a speedy song sung by him.He tried to sing sometimes
like
pavataprayathil
which have not succeeded since it resembles a conversation.
Jayachandran is superb in speed.
Take for eg the song
pa pa pa pa pa nisa manohari
ma ma ma ma ma vikaramanjari devasundari
To pronounce it properly and sing it speedily yesudas is not at all perfect.Jayachandran was fully perfect.
4.VIBRATIONS:Vibrations are made by both singers.Both are equally good in it.Jayachandran's
vibrations in prayam nammil was beautiful.
5.DEPTH:Jayachandran has much depth than yesudas.In depth yesudas is nil in front of jayachandran.Even in a simple
padam like karivarivandukal kurunirakal in DEVARAGAM take the part "kaikalo-o-o-
jalapushpavalayangalo-o-o-o-o"
He has the depth there.In all songs this is coming into picture.As Ajith show above,yesudas was unable to maintain raaga
at high pitches is About this aspect.
6.SOFTNESS:Even now when he is not getting chances as yesudas he maintains the softness like the song
Ariyathe ariyathe-e in RAVANAPRABHU.But Jayachandran is not the master of this it is Hariharan.But Yesudas is
nothing in this,he is always noty soft.But some songs like Kattile pazhmulam thandil ghe approached it.Jayachandran and
Hariharan are 2 good in it.
7.VERSATILITY:Altogether more versatile is Jayachandran but due to luck yesudas was more famous.It does not mean
that jayachandran is less versatile.He was not recognised as he should be.
If Jayachandran was given more chances he would have shown up the world.But when politics or other pressure comes
against a singer what the most versatile singer can do?
That is why i consider him as most versatile.If he should have remained there in bollywood,he would have been famous
like his students.
Jayachandran is the most talented singer ever India had seen.
Sri P JAYACHANDRAN is undoubtedly the 'best singer' India has ever produced.
he has proven his potentiality in all the major characteristics needed for a vocal singer.
1. melody
2. range
3. speed
4. vibrations & oscillations
5. depth
6. softness
7 versatality (ability to shine in film music, classical, devotional, semi -classical light music, festive music etc..)
no other singer in India has proven his ability in such diversified kinds of vocal singing!
and nobody can match him in vocal characteristics mentioned above. Other singers may have the first 3 but not the other
ones. Some other singers may have the last 3 but not the initial ones. There has not been a single singer in INdia that has
proven in all the above mentioned vocal characteristics !!
- From: kalai (@ 210.214.115.189)
on: Thu Dec 12 04:00:22 EST 2002
How many songs PS has in "Vazhkai padagu" ? .I remember "unnai than nnan ariven" and "Ayiram penami malarattume" ..
- From: kalai (@ 210.214.115.114)
on: Mon Dec 16 07:15:16 EST 2002
hi all
In december(15-31) "cinema Express", Mr.Vamanan written about the quarrel between P.Susheela and Ilayaraja in "thirai isai sadhanayalrgal" Page. Pl. post your views ..
http://www.cinemaexpress.com/achivers/
- From: raj (@ 202.54.66.89)
on: Mon Dec 16 22:58:13 EST 2002
he had Not Written it as Quarrel but the Misunderstanding which
IR had with mostly Everyone..
- From: Manathu kannikal (@ 203.199.213.4)
on: Mon Dec 16 23:01:03 EST 2002
Best male singer PJ and best female singer PS
- From: Subbu (@ 216.52.49.5)
on: Mon Dec 16 23:18:32 EST 2002
Hi Kalai,
am not able to read the page frm cinema express. can you please send me the "tamil font" which is required to load the page properly. Thanks
- From: guest (@ 202.144.44.226)
on: Tue Dec 17 03:00:54 EST 2002
Can somebody translate that in to english and post it?
- From: Subbu (@ 216.52.49.5)
on: Tue Dec 17 22:05:36 EST 2002
Kalai, oru rathina surukkama, tamizhil post paNNuNga please... I am eager to read that IR-PS issue article from Cinema Express
- From: Saravanan (@ 195.229.241.232)
on: Tue Dec 17 22:56:53 EST 2002
Subbu- don't you get Cinema Express in Bangalore? Are tamizh magazines also banned?:(
I haven't read Mr.Vamanan's write-up. But I have chatted with him on so many issues. So I have an idea of what he might have written. It could have pertained to a recording of V Kumar's when IR was the guitarist. There was some problem, IR's notes and PS's singing were not synchronising. Take after take this happened. PS complained that it was IR's fault. IR replied that it was she who was making the mistake. PS was very upset. Finally V Kumar sent IR out and continued the recording.
(Of course, I don't know how true this is. Kalai, is this what is mentioned in the artcle?)
- From: Subbu (@ 216.52.49.5)
on: Wed Dec 18 04:37:19 EST 2002
CE is available only in railway station, Saravanan. Earlier we used to get it from Jayanagar 4th block too.
BTW, which film had this misunderstanding issue between IR and PS.. may be due to that IR had done his "return" duty to PS when he started ruling of TFM...? Anyway, am too small to comment on this... I was just curious to know the details :-)
- From: Pee Jaay fan (@ 195.188.191.69)
on: Wed Dec 18 05:36:30 EST 2002
kumud,I concur totally with you. PJ is not a poor joke as music lovers with discerning tastes would note. His versatility in positioning himself beautifully in front of the mike before singing a classical, jocular, love duet number is unparalleled basically because vibrates and oscillates a lot while singing those numbers. But I have one confession to make, I working hard at improving my musical taste, it is not too good at the moment.
- From: kalai (@ 210.214.115.145)
on: Wed Dec 18 08:10:32 EST 2002
This is the writing about PS-IR misunderstanding …
(I didn’t get CE font ..sorry .I have read it in book.. )
Thirai Ulagil Isai Amaippaalaraaga Ilayaraja kaaladi eduthu vaippatharkku sila Aandukalukku mun, avar sila isai amaippalargalukku Guitar vaasithu vanthar allava ..?
Appadi V.Kumar-in isai amaippil oru paatukku vaasithuk kondiruntha pOdhu oru nighazchi nadanthathu ..
P.susheela paadikkondirutha paatirkku Ilayaraja vaasithar. Vaathiyakkaarar(Ilayaraja) thavaru seigirar entar Susheela, Avangathan thappa paaduraanga entar raja. Kanneer sinthum alavukku susheela paathikkapattar ..
Vaathiyakkaararai veliye anuppi vittu Paadal pathivai thodarnthar Kumar. Aagattum, Naan isai amaippalar aagum pothu paarthukkolgiren entru velikilambiyavar thaan…
Appadiyum, than muthal padamaana Annakiliyileye susheela-vai paada vaithar.. Sonthamillai panthamillai entru susheela paadiyathu sumar ragam than .( kurippaga janaki paadiya matta paadalgalai oppidum pothu). Athu Isai amaippalarin mananilayai prathipalithirukka koodum.
Aaanal MSV-in sangeetha raajyathin achani-kuralaga vilangiya Susheela-vai kondu thannalum vassgaramaana mettukkalai theetta mudiyum entru pudhiyavar kaata thavaravillai.
Annakili vantha aandileye vantha “badrakaali”yil kannan oru kaikuzhanthayai Yerkanave kavanithirukkirom. Gayatri,durgadevi pontra sila padangalil susheela paadiyathu vetri adayavillai . Sainthadamma sainthaadu enta padathil anaithu paadalgalayum Susheela-vai paada vaithar ilayaraja . “Ulagil enakkuthan athiga rasigargal” entru Susheela paadinaalum, padathil ontirandu paadalgal than. (oru kaadhal devathi, kanna enna sonna siru pillaye) ketkum padiyaga irunthathu.
A.M.Raja arimugamaana samsaram padathin kathayai adippadayaga kondu valampuri swaminathan thiraikathai ezhuthi “Thunai iruppal meenakshi” entra padathai iyakkinar. Isai ilayaraja.Mettu inimayilum kural inimayilum manathai kavarum paadalaaga athu amainthathu… “SughamoAyiram” entra paadal, Unarchikku uramoottakoodiya Sujathavin nadippu veru. Cheiviyilum vizhiyilum paadal nintathu..
Chellapillai saravanan(penn jenmam),Mogha sangeetham(Kannan oru kaikuzhnthai), Unna nimbi nethiyile(Chittu kuruvi), sindhu nadhikarai oram(nallathor kudumbam), agiyavattai susheela-vin kuralil Ilayaraja vaartha Uyirottamaana paadalgalaaga kurippidalam.
Paadagi-isai amaippalar uravil vidhivasamaaga yerpattiruntha muthal katta inakkaminmayai than sumugamaana pokkinal Susheela oralavukku sarikattiyathal, Ilayaraja avvappothu avarai bayanpaduthinar.Yen,Lakshmi enta padathil “thenna marathula thenral adikkuthu” entu Susheela-vai paarthu duet kooda paadinaar. Chittukuruvi-yil “En kanmani Un kaadhalai” enta pareetchatha paadalayum” SPB-udan paada vaithar..
That all about PS..
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