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"SANGAMAM" Songs

Topic started by Suresh (@ unknown-47-23.wrs.com) on Mon Aug 9 13:31:41 EDT 1999.
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Did anybody see the new movie Sangamam? The songs in this moview looks so different. I don't know what dfference is that? Did Anybody feel the same thing?

- suresh

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Responses:

• From: Ajit (@ qcarh004.nortelnetworks.com) on: Mon Aug 9 13:40:47 EDT 1999
  
  ARR had done a good job in composing the songs. But Suresh Krishna and others have failed to use them properly. The songs are wasted in the movie. No one dances properly to any of the songs.
  
  
• From: Raman V Trikkur (@ mcproxyge.geis.com) on: Mon Aug 9 16:10:11 EDT 1999
  
  I havent seen the movie but I downloaded the songs from tamilsongs.net and played them. Liked 'em a lot. Janaki is outstanding in "Maargazhi thingal allava". It is set to ragam 'Sindhu Bhairavi" I think. Some pieces are very similar to "Mile sur mera thumara" our famous DD National Integration song. Also the qawwali type "Varagha Nadi Kkarai oram" is very different and, I daresay, original. It is a mix of Yamun Kalyani and something else. The song is a piece of cake for the enormously talented Shankar Mahadevan who has a booming voice rich in "brigha". The guy has too much Carnatic Knowledge to be tested by this kind of stuff. "Sowkkiyama Kanne" is good to the ear too. Once again, Nithya shree is just too good.
  
  The other songs are pretty average. "Mazhai Thuli" - although I have great respect for "Mellisai Mannar MSV" I must say that the difference between Hariharan's and MSV's sruthis make a few notes a liitle too jarring to the ear.
  
  But on the whole very DIFFERENT and pretty good stuff.
  
  
• From: Dorai (@ gateway7.ey.com) on: Mon Aug 9 16:25:37 EDT 1999
  
  I heard all the songs in Sangaman, but none of them appealed to me as outstanding. They are all repeated tunes and with the usual ARR gimmicks of trying each song with a new singer just for the heck of it.
  
  "Sowkiyamma" sounds really amatuerish with Nithaya Shree on her usual high pitch note.
  
  There is a knack of composing carnatic keerthis into tamil film songs and the masters in that area are, KVM, IR and MSV in that order. ARR is no where near any of the above except in introducing a new singer in every movie.
  
  
• From: Isai rasigai (@ columbo.wfd.com) on: Mon Aug 9 16:52:25 EDT 1999
  
  Sangamam songs are pleasant to the ears but aweful to watch.... It reminds one of Pudiya mugam songs.... very bad choreography... Rahman kku en ippadi oru raasi yo! dance therinja hero and heroine pottirukkalaame! atleast Bharathanatyam aada therinja heroine! - the heroine in Sangamam reminded me of Devyani in Swarnamukhi - wrong choice for a classical dancer's role!
  
  
• From: bunny (@ fibre34.vds.com.au) on: Mon Aug 9 17:11:38 EDT 1999
  
  saw Sangamam. Forget the rest. Manivannan has done a fantastic job. It really shows the talent he has and the lack of quality roles he gets in other movies. I agree that the dancing doesn't match the music. But come on fellows give the guys a break. The film it self is different from the usual crap we are dished out.
  
  
• From: Sundar (@ inet-fw1-o.oracle.com) on: Mon Aug 9 18:10:26 EDT 1999
  
  Sangamam songs reminded me of Anjali, Anjali...
  song and mile sur mera tumara song...lata mangeshkar's piece that too...So anybody can tell
  me what is the ragam for varadhe nadhikarai oram?
  
  To me it reminded me of 'en manadhil kudiyirukkum
  nagoor aandava,lalalala....nanum vevdava'....
  
  what ragam was soukiyam and varadhe?
  
  
  
• From: Madhavan (@ 210.212.254.32) on: Mon Aug 9 22:14:28 EDT 1999
  
  Varaha Nadhi is a total copyof an old Runa Laila
  hit, DAMADUM MAST KALANDHAR.
  SOWKKIYAMA is I think in Raga MAND. If you listen to Unni krishnan's Vaanathu Meedhu Mayilada Kanden, you will see the similarity.
  
  
• From: yvs mani (@ hub.nic.in) on: Tue Aug 10 00:45:24 EDT 1999
  
  Margazhi Thingal by SJ is the best song int his album according to me.It is followed by Varagha nadikarai oram by SM.
  Even though, music of sowkiyamaa song is good, I fell Nithyashree's voice does not suit it , especially with a high pitch.
  ARR should use another singer for it.
  Aalala kanda by HH & MSV is o.k
  
  
• From: Naan ARR virodhi alla (@ nico.pediatrics.sunysb.edu) on: Tue Aug 10 01:27:08 EDT 1999
  
  listened to three songs of sangamam none of the were appealing especially from a musician who is talented and most highly rated in the media beyond his talents sometimes. For a movie with classical music based (I hope by virtue of naming the movie as Sangamam)screenplay below average performance by arr, CAN not even come close to "Shankarabharanam" of KV Mahadevan,"Ananda Bhairavi" of Ramesh naidu , "Malaya Marutha" of Vijaya Bhaskar, Rudra veena/Moha mul of IR, and any of MSV's Classical based cOMPOSITIONS,
  Sirikkadeengappa, avare daan ellam NO.1 appadi ippadinnu eluduraangale avarai verenna jujubi Anu Malik koodava compare panna mudiyum
  
  
• From: Ram (@ 206.103.12.118) on: Tue Aug 10 05:57:35 EDT 1999
  
  What are we discussing in "New Releases of ARR" then?
  
  
• From: pg (@ hqinbh1.ms.com) on: Tue Aug 10 09:16:55 EDT 1999
  
  'mazhaithuLi mazhaithuLi maNNil sangamam' sounded like 'en pEru padaiyappa iLavatta nadaiappa' to my untrained ears.
  
  Haven't heard the other songs.
  
  
• From: thathuvavaanthi (@ 207.247.192.251) on: Tue Aug 10 15:42:52 EDT 1999
  
  All songs of Sangamam were attai COPIED...
  
  'Mazhai thuLLi mazhai thuLLi' resembles 'en iniya pon nilaave' - set in Kaavadi Chindhu
  
  'varaadhE nadhikarai oram' is exactly same as 'boomiyil maadi jenmam' - set in Yaman Kalyaani
  
  'sowkkiyamaa' song is same as 'chikku bukku rayile' - in Maandu
  
  'mudhal aRai' song is a Carbon Copy of Deva's 'rukku rukku rukku'
  
  and,
  
  'maargazhi thingal alwaa' is a Narasoos Copy of IR's 'aNNE aNNE sippaay aNNE' - set in Sindhu Bhairavi
  
  
• From: Raman V Trikkur (@ mcproxyge.geis.com) on: Wed Aug 11 19:31:30 EDT 1999
  
  Dear thathuva....
  I agree with your Raaga analysis, but I take exception to your conclusion.
  
  Let me first say that I am a very great fan of IR (I think IR is/was the GREATEST), but I don't agree with "Rehman bashing" just for the sake of it. I think ARR does comes up with good stuff too.
  
  Just because the Raagas have been used before in Tamil Film music it DOES NOT mean that the songs are "attai copy" as you've put it. If that is the case then the great "Trinity" have composed a song in almost every raaga - so can we say that EVERY song composed by anyone since the days od St. Thyagaraja is a COPY ? That would be a silly conclusion.
  
  A song is not just the Raaga, it is also the rythm, the percussion and other instruments, the pitch, the metres, the pauses, the interludes, different flights of "sangatis", the voice, the emotions, the tempo....I can go on for ever.
  
  So just because 'chikku bukku rayile' and 'sowkkiyamaa' are set to Maandu it does not mean that they are copies!. 'chikku bukku rayile' has a completely different percussive rythm to it. It requires a knowledgeable listener like you to identify that it is set to Maandu. To say that they are attai copies is a little too harsh.
  
  BTW is your alias meant to be "tathuvavaaNthi" or "thatthuvavaathi" ?
  
  
• From: Webmaster (@ toronto06-01.better.net) on: Wed Aug 11 20:05:45 EDT 1999
  
  Listen Sangamam Songs In Real Audio.....
  
  http://www.tamilcinemanewws.org
  
  
• From: Webmaster (@ toronto06-01.better.net) on: Wed Aug 11 20:06:32 EDT 1999
  
  agin...
  
  http://www.tamilcinemanews.org
  
  
• From: thathuvavaathi (@ 207.247.192.253) on: Thu Aug 12 01:42:36 EDT 1999
  
  >>>>It requires a knowledgeable listener like you
  
  ROTFL... me knows, me no knowledgeable listener. Was just loLLing (it was meant to be an anti-anti-arr posting;-). I guess it should belong to the 'dlkjh;lk' thread ;-))).
  
  btw, I have no idea about the raagaas of original narasoos copy songs: 'chikku bukku rayilu', 'aNNe aNNe' etc...
  
  (Raman: appappo ippadidhaan vaanthi eduppen. kandukkaadheenga! Cheers !! :)
  
  
• From: pooven ragaven (@ phantom.dbn.lia.net) on: Tue Oct 26 09:09:33 EDT 1999
  
  hi there im from south africa and the film was released here in septemeber 1999. I think it is an absolutely fantastic film. It is so refreshing 2 c that indian films r going back to old indian traditional roots rather than all the rubbish that we c in so called "modern films" these days.
  The very fact that there r no fight scenes says alot. The songs r fantastic. As for "kanilvaram kachiyellam" the kawalli influence by rehman was brilliant. Gopalnath on the saxaphone in sowkkiyamma was brilliant just like in duet.
  on the whole i think the movie was great and it received 10 points out of 10 in movie reviews in s.a. If anybody would like 2 e-mail me please feel free 2 do so on poovi_2000@hotmail.com
  
  
  
• From: sujitha (@ as22-s16-142-126.cwci.net) on: Tue Oct 26 15:36:11 EDT 1999
  
  I can't believe how the songs were wasted on this film.ARR has excelled as usual but the dancing is goddamned awful.I coulda done better myself.
  
  
• From: Dorai (@ gateway7.ey.com) on: Tue Oct 26 18:55:39 EDT 1999
  
  My personal opinion is that Suresh Krishna has handled most of the songs pretty well.
  1. Mazhai Thulli - What more can we expect from a gramiya therukuthu song
  2. varagha... - I liked the way the song was introduced and dances by vadivelu and the set arrangements
  3. Soukiyamma - was also good, and resembled "Marainthurunthu Paarkum..." from Thillana Moganambal. The desert dance sequences could have been avoided.
  4. Mudhal Murai - Was also nicely picturised given the mood of the situation
  5. Marghazhi Thingal - Very Nice picturization, esp when Raghuman joins the song.
  
  Overall I liked the songs and picturization. But what the movie lacked was the director's fault to
  portray clearly what he meant by Grammiya Kalai. The story did not carry weight on that aspect hence the whole movie did not turn out great. But a great effort by Suresh Krishna
  
  
• From: raju (@ host62-6-130-91.host.btclick.com) on: Wed Oct 27 20:06:22 EDT 1999
  
  i haven't seen the film yet but i can't stop singing 'varaha nadi....'.
  i have seen varaha nadi in madurai dst.
  
  
• From: Ramkumar Perumanam (@ hoproxy1.proxy.lucent.com) on: Thu Oct 28 13:02:24 EDT 1999
  
  IMO none of the songs composed by ARR really suit the theme/styles for Bharathanatyam or therukooththu. At least he could have put some decent effort to compose a song like "Ther kondu vandavan"(by IR in Enakkul Oruvan)/"Indraikku en inda anandamo/Azhagu malar aada etc set for the similar situations to suit the mood for the film. The songs just add to the mediocrity of the direction and actors(who have no clue as to the dance forms they are portraying/directing). It's just best to hear the songs as an "album" keeping in mind that they are NOT composed for a Bharatanatyam/folk dance background in mind.
  
  
• From: Ramkumar Perumanam (@ hoproxy1.proxy.lucent.com) on: Thu Oct 28 13:02:52 EDT 1999
  
  IMO none of the songs composed by ARR really suit the theme/styles for Bharathanatyam or therukooththu. At least he could have put some decent effort to compose a song like "Ther kondu vandavan"(by IR in Enakkul Oruvan)/"Indraikku en inda anandamo/Azhagu malar aada etc set for the similar situations to suit the mood for the film. The songs just add to the mediocrity of the direction and actors(who have no clue as to the dance forms they are portraying/directing). It's just best to hear the songs as an "album" keeping in mind that they are NOT composed for a Bharatanatyam/folk dance background in mind.
  
  

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