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POSTLUDE IN TF SONGS

Topic started by isai_nanban (@ 68.77.11.141) on Fri Jul 18 11:31:23 EDT 2003.
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Has anyone not listened to Kallelo song in Sambhu? It is a fanstastic composition with brilliant prelude, rhythm, interludes and a POSTLUDE different from any tune in the song.

It is a spectacular follow-through for the song. Hear this song' ending and you can recognize that IR is taking the advanced listeners to the next level to a higher impressionist metaphysical kinda plane.

Anyway, there a few songs in TFM with postludes, each of those are classics of TFM- a. Poongatru Un Peyr Solla (Vetri Vizha-IR); 2. Poove Sempoove (Solla Thudikuthu Manasu-IR) I know there are many more, including percussion postludes like in Megam Kottatum (Enakkul Oruvan- IR); Mukkala Muqabla (Kadhalan-ARR)

Can we bring them out here. (Don't forget include spectacularly spontaneous laughter types like by SJanaki in "Intha Minminikku Kannil Oru Minnal Vandhadhu" (Sigappu Rojakkal-IR) which happens to have been emulated by Michael Jackson few years later in the amazing Thriller number!!!!!

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• From: Ravi (@ 192.147.58.6) on: Fri Jul 18 13:50:28 EDT 2003
  
  I can list a few though I dont know if the following hummings can be categorised under 'postludes'
  . Vaazha ninaithaal vaazhalaam (the postlude is a beautiful humming by P Susheela)
  . Thoodhu sella oru thozhi (PS and LRE, similar to the above one, LRE does the humming here)
  . Thoongaatha kannidru onru (PS/TMS)
  
  
• From: !!!! (@ 68.77.13.251) on: Sat Jul 19 23:57:10 EDT 2003
  
  Enge Endhan Kaadhali in Enakkul Oruvan - IR has one percussion ending.
  
  
• From: Mythila (@ 208.220.245.72) on: Thu Jul 24 04:37:55 EDT 2003
  
  The short and sweet postlude in Kalyani in the song 'Kannaale kaadhal kavidhai' film Aathma is mesmerising. The same goes to 'Kokarako kozhi' from Kalaigyan , with mediocre singing by Kamal, crappy lyrics , but wonderful prelude, interlude chorus and postlude. I listen to this song just for these.
  
  
• From: Lord LabakuDas (@ 202.54.153.21) on: Thu Jul 24 05:48:00 EDT 2003
  
  last'la vara music thaaney postlude?
  illayanila pozhigirathey
  enthan nenjil(same prelude postlude)
  
  
• From: Sriram Lakshman (@ 195.188.191.86) on: Thu Jul 24 05:50:00 EDT 2003
  
  There are scores of songs that have had apt postludes even in the 60s.
  nAn unnai chErntha selvam
  oru rAjA rANiyidam
  oru nALilE uRavAnathE etc
  Postludes in the above cases are are almost like the mother lovingly stroking her child after putting it to sleep. Perfect Bye-for-now-love-see-you-later master strokes.
  
  
• From: Sriram Lakshman (@ 195.188.191.86) on: Thu Jul 24 05:51:38 EDT 2003
  
  Actually more than just scores of songs, if you care to listen to the movie versions of the songs and not the Vividh Bharathi versions :).
  
  
• From: MumbaiRamki (@ 203.193.152.205) on: Thu Jul 24 06:10:33 EDT 2003
  
  1.Nee thaan enthan Desiya Getham -Parthale Paravasam
  
  2.Alagae Sugama -Parthale Paravasaam
  
  3.Parrthale Paravasaam-Parthalae Paravasaam
  
  4.Isayil Thodunguthamma-HeyRam
  
  5.Algiye Theeye -Minnale
  
  6.Vaseegra -Minnale
  
  7.Aathi Adiathi-Naam Iruvaar Nammaku Iruvaar
  
  8.Madonna -Kadhalla Kadhaala
  
  9.Nee illayai ENdraal -Dheena
  
  10.Un Perai Sonnale -Dumm DUmm DUmm (umminhg)
  
  
• From: MumbaiRamki (@ 203.193.152.205) on: Thu Jul 24 06:16:55 EDT 2003
  
  Mythila ,neenga kamal hassan a thittama veeda mateenga pola !!!!It is one of my favourite techno /dance song though i agree that SPB would have done abetter job !!
  
  
• From: Mythila (@ 208.220.245.72) on: Thu Jul 24 06:51:00 EDT 2003
  
  Ramki, idha, idha, idha thaan naanum solren.
  Kamal nadippu, script , direction idhil yellam Gavanam seiyattum. Music, Aiyyo vendaame.
  
  
• From: isainanban (@ 68.77.29.44) on: Thu Jul 24 22:02:18 EDT 2003
  
  Yes, Ilaya nila legendary for that. Aagaya Pandhaliley Ponunjal is another classic
  
  
• From: Mythila (@ 208.220.245.72) on: Fri Jul 25 09:25:58 EDT 2003
  
  Though I haven't heard this song for more than 10 years, I still vividly remember the fantastic postlude (I think some instrument like Jaladharangam is being used , accompanied by flute ) in the song 'Adi penne ponnunjal aadum ilamai' from Mullum malarum.
  Mumbai Ramki,do the songs in your list have postludes worthy of mention or just songs which have some postlude? Just curious.
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 68.16.25.50) on: Fri Jul 25 10:35:59 EDT 2003
  
  Mythila, Adi penne had one of the best postludes ever. I could just listen to this ending alone several times in that song. You are right, I think it had jaladharangam along with tabla, mridhangam and a variety of other instruments. You should see the picturization too, Mahendran does full justice most of the time.
  
  
• From: Mumbai Ramki (@ 203.193.152.205) on: Fri Jul 25 11:13:35 EDT 2003
  
  MYthil ,not all exciting ..But each one of them are different ,that's it ..
  
  1.Nee thaan enthan Desiya Getham -A sweet solo violin
  2.Alagae Sugama -a great piano piece
  
  3.Parrthale Paravasaam-Cranatic humming
  
  4.Isayil Thodunguthamma-SYmphonic music
  
  5.Algiye Theeye -A sweet flute -like music
  
  6.Vaseegra -a sweet humming by B J
  
  7.Aathi Adiathi-nice rock guitar ...
  
  8.Madonna -nice pop style voice
  
  9.Nee illayai ENdraal -again a nice rock/techno music
  
  10.Un Perai Sonnale -a sweet humming in hindustani style ( do not ask me what that means ,i do no )
  
  
  
  
  
• From: isainanban (@ 68.77.4.93) on: Sat Jul 26 12:51:37 EDT 2003
  
  Didn't knwo so many had it! meantime, I recommend the other song in Sambhu "Dosedu Mallelu" It is super. Addictive! got a good ending too. Did you notice that Kalello song had two different charanams. The singer sounds like SPB also.
  
  Is Sambhu making news in Andhra?
  
  
• From: rajeshrs_tvm (@ 202.88.240.179) on: Sun Jul 27 00:25:11 EDT 2003
  
  have you forgotten the postlude ofthe song..
  -:Naetru illaadha maatram ennadhu kaatru en kaadhil aedho sonnadhu:-
  the soulful piece of veena followed by flute..
  
  
• From: vintage (@ 207.112.60.73) on: Mon Jul 28 09:04:49 EDT 2003
  
  How about the fantastic Wagnerian finale to "Polladha madhana baanam" of Hey Ram!
  
  
• From: Nevis (@ 195.39.134.84) on: Mon Jul 28 14:47:48 EDT 2003
  
  Yes, Pollaadha madhana baanam had a great postlude.
  But 'Isayil thodanguthamma' ???
  
  Another set of beats to finish 'Kaatukuyilu' from Dalapathi.
  
  
• From: MumbaiRamki (@ 203.193.152.204) on: Mon Jul 28 22:48:18 EDT 2003
  
  Nevis ,
  That was an error ,it is indeed "polladha Madhana " song !!!!
  
  
• From: Bharath (@ 203.145.186.2) on: Mon Jul 28 23:30:34 EDT 2003
  
  //"which happens to have been emulated by Michael Jackson few years later in the amazing Thriller number!!!!! "//
  
  
  dude u make me laugh!! all the other things u said was fine and interesting.. but why did u have to put this.
  
  it looks to me that u want to say " even MJ copied from IR.. that is the greatness of IR". i dont think u, this topic or IR needs this kinda comparison.
  
  its amusing to think MJ or anyother hollywood perosnality in 70's & 80's wud have heard of the sj song u mention. a low probablity event unless we wanna flatter ourselves with lot of self importance
  
  
• From: check it out. (@ 68.77.4.93) on: Mon Jul 28 23:57:15 EDT 2003
  
  Bharath dude, thinkin of it now i am sure it is hihgly possible. (it does nt matter to me if you or your father or IR does not require comparison)
  
  i used the wrong words. any artist to feel complete will make efforts to seek out ideas from any possible sources. why do you feel Western artistes won't find Indian pop worth their time. The whole discussion forum then only is not talking about possibilities
  Listen to "Beat It" song and I did find a super resemblance all the way thru in the song' Ennadi Meenakshi. Two songs in the album with 2 unique ideas. I think MJ has been seekin inspiration elsewhere. Look man, SETI (some of the finest scientists) are searching for communications from zillions of noise signals in the universe. Do not limit yourself, Pal. Never discount your own intuition if you respect it. It can be crazy, it could kill ya, but it could also be true at some level beyond your frickin sarasm.
  
  
• From: isai_nanban (@ 68.77.4.93) on: Tue Jul 29 02:00:37 EDT 2003
  
  Hey Bharath, sorry I did not mean to be rude there;-). I want your opinion on this one and then you can understand my point - Rahman' Chandralekha song starts off with a charged electronic beat - two sounds in tandem. This song came in 1995 I think. Check out Briteny Spears hit Baby One More Time (1999) by the Swedish pop genius composer Max Martin - this song uses the almost same sound of Rahman as transition beats. Was that beat in any Western pop song before 95 I am not sure, but let me know
  
  
• From: N Teja (@ 140.159.4.2) on: Tue Jul 29 03:03:30 EDT 2003
  
  i think we can add kuluvalile - muthu(carnatic verses at the end of the song).
  can oh la la la - minsara kanavu also be added here? its got a great drum beat almost at the end.
  
  N Teja
  
  
• From: Gyan (@ ) on: Thu Oct 14 17:36:23 EDT 2004
  
  bb, nice of you to attach this thread to the song. some correction here: IR was probably not the only great in postludes, MSV has done some great ones, some in fact many a song of MSV carried great finishes.... almost every other composer has given some great postlude effects...
  
  But, there is a but.... Indha Minminikki takes the cake absolutely. SJ outdid all instrumental possibilities with that absolutely mirthful "peels" of laughter (is it peals?) anyway, Janaki stole the song itself right from IR, I cannot think of any other singer who could've done it better, no not even Asha Bhonsle.
  
  
• From: app_engine (@ 136.1.1.154) on: Thu Oct 14 17:49:42 EDT 2004
  
  The best ever according to me is `iLaya nilA'...makes you yearn for the ending piece...I don't think I would've looked forward to the `ending' of any other endearing song so much... (That I wanted many other songs to end ASAP on radio is a different matter:-))
  
  
• From: rajaG (@ 208.24.179.207) on: Thu Oct 14 18:08:56 EDT 2004
  
  I wonder if Ilaya Nila was a creative postlude. Not to take away anything from the wonderful guitar playing, it is merely an instrumentation of the pallavi.
  
  Naan ennum pozhudhu by SPB from dhooraththu idi muzhakkam (??) music by Salil Chowdhury has a really wonderful prelude and postlude.
  
  Namma ooru singaari has a very peppy postlude.
  
  
• From: app_engine (@ 136.1.1.154) on: Fri Oct 15 11:26:52 EDT 2004
  
  G, adhu 100% pallavi on guitar illeenga:-), especially the concluding few notes are different and mesmerising...
  
  `Germaniyin' has a special postlude too with SPB/SJ humming together...
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 68.16.25.50) on: Fri Oct 15 13:00:56 EDT 2004
  
  Adi peNNE from Mullum Malarum and Megam Kottatum from yenakkuL oruvan would rank pretty highup the list. RG, I thought Naan yeNNUm pozhudhu had an artificially lengthened prelude and postlude(both of which are pretty much the same) to fit the timing of the song to the titles. It was a title song. I regularly listen to the song since its an all-time favourite of mine, but mostly for the melody and SPB's singing. The chorus is a bit jarring too probably because of the recording. I cant wait for SPB to start the pallavi whenever I listen to the song.
  
  Amongst non-TF songs, thaththaaram from IR's Guru is special.
  
  
• From: paper clip (@ 216.47.179.49) on: Fri Oct 15 13:27:02 EDT 2004
  
  rajaG, nAn eNnum is from azhiyAda Kolangal
  
  
• From: Christopher Reeve (@ 61.1.204.117) on: Sun Oct 17 08:59:27 EDT 2004
  
  2 rare gems from Deva have Postludes........
  
  1)vennilavae...vennilavae [Kaalamellam Kaadhal Vaazhga]
  
  2)Pulveli....[Aasai]
  
  
• From: kumarr (@ 213.42.2.22) on: Sun Oct 17 14:14:40 EDT 2004
  
  "Pillai Nilaa Irandum Vellai Nilaa" from "Neengal Kaettavai"
  
  and
  
  "Sengamalam Sirikkudhu; Sangamathai Ninaikudhu" (where Janaki breaks into laughter)
  
  are a few and good numbers.
  
  
• From: thumburu (@ ) on: Sun Nov 7 15:46:46 EST 2004
  
  The most amazing postlude AIMO is from PudhupattiPonnuthaayi song "Manam pola mangalyam" . A great song in Saraswathi raaga. The postlude is a combination of thavil (rythm lovers can give it a try) , naadaswaram and some bit of wcm in strings. The prelude, a brief nadaswaram alaap in the raaga gives a nice buildup for this sadly unrecognized gem of a song.
  
  
• From: mythila (@ 193.88.72.179) on: Mon Nov 8 05:21:47 EST 2004
  
  I think "Manam pola mangalyam" is Hemavathy which resembles Saraswathy
  
  

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