Topic started by Raju (@ 209.246.86.192) on Sun Mar 10 15:55:17 EST 2002.
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He has produced some really great music, especially in Malayalam. But I was wondering about some of his tamil ventures. I know he has some movies in tamil. I heard one and it was pretty good. The movie's name, I think, was called "Thaye Nee Thunai" or something like that. Anyone heard the music to this movie?
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- From: MS (@ 129.252.25.241)
on: Tue Nov 26 22:12:31 EST 2002
thx Kaumudi. Peter Pan - Sorry. I do not know much about him but his songs.
- From: purv (@ 205.231.151.170)
on: Tue Nov 26 22:16:30 EST 2002
jibi, u seem to be an old-is-gold prospect. btw, is Kizhakunaram pakshi really by Ravindran? I thought it was by a different MD, by the name of Jayaraman Bhass or something.
What year was 'Ayillam Naal' released?
- From: Anish m n (@ 203.199.213.5)
on: Wed Nov 27 09:55:37 EST 2002
The biggest mistake by Ravindran:didn't made Pj to sing more songs
Happy to hear he has some thoughts coming up for Pj to sing,Ravindran,he is god of music
- From: purv (@ 205.231.31.135)
on: Wed Nov 27 10:49:46 EST 2002
Anish m n,
Actually, in his recent works, Ravindran HAS set aside songs for Jayachandran. They are:
Aarum Aarum-- Nandhanam
Yekaakiyaam-- Ente Hrithyathinthe Udamaa
Singaari-- Pakalpooram
regards,
purv
- From: jibi (@ 163.238.10.119)
on: Wed Nov 27 15:51:30 EST 2002
dear purav ,
u are not correct ... i like old good old songs ..and there are a lot of bad songs in old times... in present there are a lot of good songs and bad ones ... still i like all the songs ...but old people try to say something to lift up and say old is gold ..new musics are copy of old ..thats not correct .. in the 90's there were a lot of good songs by illayaraja,reveendran,johnson,vidyasagar,ousepachan ... but there are a lot of bad composers in mallu ie:mohan sitara
regarding kizhakunarum pakshi ..the music was by reveendran bec i have the songs ...most of the movies directed by vanu nagavalli has music by reveendran ...sugamo devi,lal salam,kalippatam are by venu-reveendran duo
- From: Sushma y (@ 202.141.24.2)
on: Thu Nov 28 05:01:17 EST 2002
Jibi old songs whichever sung by yesudas are bad but all by Pj are super.Do you agree?
- From: Raghu (@ 217.158.120.226)
on: Thu Nov 28 06:27:50 EST 2002
Ravindran composed for the tamil mnovie "Rasighan oru rasighai" right?, awsome compostion, as well as awsome rendertion by Dr.KJY
- From: Best singer in India is a malayali (@ 203.199.213.5)
on: Thu Nov 28 08:51:18 EST 2002
*******CHARACTERISTICE OF THE BEST SINGER IN INDIA*********
1.MELODY:Jayachandran is melody,i am ashamed of stating about such a great person that "JAYACHANDRAN IS
HAVING MELODY ALSO".But yesudas now and then had it.
2.RANGE:Jayachandran's 90% songs had this characteristic.Let me point out some songs which have some less range
Ninpadangalil
Nunakkuzhikavilil
Bhoolokarambhayute
Yesudas's songs have range but equally there are songs which don't have range.It is like 2 faces of a coin
3.SPEED:There is no speed in yesudas's songs.Noone can show a speedy song sung by him.He tried to sing sometimes
like
pavataprayathil
which have not succeeded since it resembles a conversation.
Jayachandran is superb in speed.
Take for eg the song
pa pa pa pa pa nisa manohari
ma ma ma ma ma vikaramanjari devasundari
To pronounce it properly and sing it speedily yesudas is not at all perfect.Jayachandran was fully perfect.
4.VIBRATIONS:Vibrations are made by both singers.Both are equally good in it.Jayachandran's
vibrations in prayam nammil was beautiful.
5.DEPTH:Jayachandran has much depth than yesudas.In depth yesudas is nil in front of jayachandran.Even in a simple
padam like karivarivandukal kurunirakal in DEVARAGAM take the part "kaikalo-o-o-
jalapushpavalayangalo-o-o-o-o"
He has the depth there.In all songs this is coming into picture.As Ajith show above,yesudas was unable to maintain raaga
at high pitches is About this aspect.
6.SOFTNESS:Even now when he is not getting chances as yesudas he maintains the softness like the song
Ariyathe ariyathe-e in RAVANAPRABHU.But Jayachandran is not the master of this it is Hariharan.But Yesudas is
nothing in this,he is always noty soft.But some songs like Kattile pazhmulam thandil ghe approached it.Jayachandran and
Hariharan are 2 good in it.
7.VERSATILITY:Altogether more versatile is Jayachandran but due to luck yesudas was more famous.It does not mean
that jayachandran is less versatile.He was not recognised as he should be.
If Jayachandran was given more chances he would have shown up the world.But when politics or other pressure comes
against a singer what the most versatile singer can do?
That is why i consider him as most versatile.If he should have remained there in bollywood,he would have been famous
like his students.
Jayachandran is the most talented singer ever India had seen.
From: rekhapnair (@ 203.199.213.5) on: Thu Nov 28 08:55:06
Sri P JAYACHANDRAN is undoubtedly the 'best singer' India has ever produced.
he has proven his potentiality in all the major characteristics needed for a vocal singer.
1. melody
2. range
3. speed
4. vibrations & oscillations
5. depth
6. softness
7 versatality (ability to shine in film music, classical, devotional, semi -classical light music, festive music etc..)
no other singer in India has proven his ability in such diversified kinds of vocal singing!
and nobody can match him in vocal characteristics mentioned above. Other singers may have the first 3 but not the other
ones. Some other singers may have the last 3 but not the initial ones. There has not been a single singer in INdia that has
proven in all the above mentioned vocal characteristics !!
- From: purv (@ 205.231.147.108)
on: Thu Nov 28 17:16:46 EST 2002
Sorry, jibi. It's just interesting to me that you'd put 'Ayaal Katha Ezhuthukathu' ahead of 'Nandhanam' and EHU, and on the same level as 'Kanmadam' or AT. Well, it's your opinion.
bye.
- From: jibi (@ 163.238.33.157)
on: Tue Dec 3 11:30:58 EST 2002
i put nadanam as aver bec the best song in the album 'gopike''.... is similar to an old song sung by kjy and music by same reveebndran ,,...i think he might used the same ragam ..
actually reveendrans best is from in the 80's to early 90's ...then he albums were averages except for 4 or 5 of them ...
- From: praveen kumar (@ 203.199.213.3)
on: Tue Dec 3 22:46:48 EST 2002
Che ravindran is a bad director.PJ if singing like in nandhanam everything will be ok
Alla i jibi enna korangan iviteyum vanno?
- From: purv (@ 205.231.147.90)
on: Wed Dec 4 10:40:35 EST 2002
jibi, you have a point. You know, 'Sreela Vasantham' sounds like a rip-off of 'Vaishnavar Janato' (Hey Ram) in the pallavi. It's only listenable due to great orchestration.
But what about other numbers in Nadhanam? How about 'Manasil', 'Karmugil Varanambhishaadi', 'Mouliyil Mazhi'? Do you not think of them as good? Are they also knock-offs of older songs?
- From: jibi (@ 163.238.10.5)
on: Wed Dec 4 15:47:17 EST 2002
nop but i think some songs are somewht related to old ones..may be he might used the same ragam ..and he is doing it again so it'll come similar...
every md has their plus and minus points ... reveendran is very good at using yesudas and giving good songs for him ..even from the old times..he is good at classical-semi-carnatic and his best songs comes from hindustani based ragams ..but his minus point is his medi-fast paced songs are average-horrible in orchestration ..and sometimes its not even worth to listen ..ie..one in pakalpuram ..i hates it... his orechestration lacks in fast paced songs ..in suthradharakan ravin nilavil starts with a guitar piece ...i am not tht sure ... and the song is face orchestration and its melidious after the pallavi the orchestration becomes like for melody songs ... i couldn't take it ..it made the song good to okkay
- From: MS (@ 129.252.25.241)
on: Wed Dec 4 16:48:17 EST 2002
Does ravindran orchestrate his songs all by himself like IR ? Or does he have some players supporting him in orchestration ?
- From: manathu kannikal (@ 202.141.24.2)
on: Wed Dec 4 22:59:48 EST 2002
Ravindran means waste.He should make P JAYACHANDRAN to sing
- From: purv (@ 205.231.25.9)
on: Thu Dec 5 22:06:08 EST 2002
jibi, are you referring to the Pakalpooram song 'Singaari...'?
- From: kk (@ 203.199.213.3)
on: Sat Dec 7 03:58:19 EST 2002
No.P Jayachandran should sing,everything will be alright
- From: av (@ 132.216.66.117)
on: Sat Dec 7 20:09:59 EST 2002
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he has proven his potentiality in all the major characteristics needed for a vocal singer.
------------------------------------------------
Am I the only one who finds the above statements kinky and really hilarious?
Potentiality? And VOCAL SINGER? Guffaw! :-)
- From: kumud (@ 203.199.213.3)
on: Sun Dec 8 01:04:25 EST 2002
Correct av,now noone to compare with Sri PJ
- From: Maverick (@ 192.128.133.68)
on: Mon Dec 9 12:41:42 EST 2002
Can someone tell me where I could get 'Ariyaathe Ariyaathe ' (Ravanaprabhu) mp3 from the net ?
- From: Lord LabakuDas (@ 12.162.224.5)
on: Mon Dec 9 14:09:03 EST 2002
'Theriyaathe Theriyaathe'..:-)
- From: jibi (@ 163.238.10.148)
on: Mon Dec 9 15:41:50 EST 2002
the guy who used to play keyboard under reveendran .. he is my friend ..he used to come for stage shows with mg sreekumar
yes purve especially ref to tht one
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- From: SAAGAR (@ 202.88.232.40)
on: Sat Dec 28 08:23:25 EST 2002
MS..,
THe info that Ravindran had scored for 450 movies is wrong.He is very selective.Possibly he might have crossed less than 125 films.
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