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Vani Jayaram's songs

Topic started by avvaiyar (@ 203.116.61.132) on Wed Jan 27 02:29:28 EST 1999.
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I'm a new visitor to this website. I couldn't see anyone discussing about Vani Jayaram's songs.
Let me start this one.(It had been there previously pls. forgive me!)

"Ezhu swarangalukkul ethanai paadal..
Ithaya surangathul ethanai kelvi...
Vaazhum manitharukkul ethanai salanam.."

Wow! Beautiful voice!

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Neel's VJ Songs

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• From: siva (@ 194.180.160.10) on: Mon Nov 11 02:38:45 EST 2002
  
  saravanan
  
  I think Vanijayaram has sung many songs in the Chandraboss music. Why we can not discuss about it?
  
  Sample song like goes " Vennilayu vennilayu parattum thendrel vanthu therndrel vanthu paaluttum ..... "from Maamiyaargal Jakkirathai with SPB i think.
  
  
• From: Santhi Tadepalli (@ 24.45.144.145) on: Mon Nov 11 18:55:38 EST 2002
  
  Hi Neel advised me that I could find the lyric of 'Anathineeyara..Hara ' from the film Swatikiranam in this forum. It is a pretty long song but really great! Could somebody please help me get it? Thanks in advance!
  Santhi
  
  
• From: Kaumudi (@ 136.142.153.250) on: Mon Nov 11 20:00:56 EST 2002
  
  Santhi
  Go through "Old Responses" a few times back and you'll see the song and its translation posted. It however doesn't have the swarakalpana.
  
  
• From: Cinema Virumbi (@ 203.197.220.213) on: Mon Nov 11 23:47:36 EST 2002
  
  Santhi,
  
  I don't know if Neel D goes thro' the postings in this thread these days! If you are in touch with him, pl. tell him the following:
  
  In his VJ site,the song 'malai raaNi munthaanai sariya sariya...' from ' orE vaanam orE bhoomi' is categorised under VJ solos. It'll be ideal under 'duets' to give credit to the beautiful 'lolala lolala' humming by Jolly Abraham!
  
  
• From: Saravanan (@ 213.42.1.170) on: Tue Nov 12 03:06:44 EST 2002
  
  Siva, yes VJ has sung a number of songs for Chandrabose. Since I am tracing her songs in chronological order, I will dwell on her songs for Chandrabose when I progress to their respective years. Please bear with me.
  
  C V- That was an interesting bit on the 'Paruthi' names!
  
  
• From: yvs mani (@ 164.100.11.114) on: Tue Nov 12 23:16:59 EST 2002
  
  one more VJ song
  aanandham indru aarambam en nenjil perinbam with KJY in mannukeththa ponnu ( GA Md)
  
  
• From: siva (@ 194.180.160.10) on: Wed Nov 13 02:25:33 EST 2002
  
  yvs mani
  
  One more nice solo song in Mannukeththa Ponnu
  
  The song is "Allipookkale thudiththidum meeengale...Mannan yevano..." who has sung it? Do you know?
  
  
• From: Saravanan (@ 195.229.241.235) on: Wed Nov 13 03:41:47 EST 2002
  
  siva- that song is by SP Shailaja.
  
  
• From: siva (@ 194.180.160.10) on: Wed Nov 13 06:23:50 EST 2002
  
  saravanan, Thanks
  
  
• From: siva (@ 194.180.160.10) on: Wed Nov 13 06:35:31 EST 2002
  
  Saravanan
  
  VJ has sung couple of songs in the following movies.
  
  1.Yeththanai jenman eduththalum
  
  2.Gnana kuzhanthai
  
  3.Deiveega raagangal
  
  4.Paarveyyin Maruppakkam
  
  5.Karadi
  
  If you have info. of above movies,Could you please give me the detail of VJ songs?
  
  
• From: susi (@ 216.209.200.18) on: Wed Nov 13 14:31:13 EST 2002
  
  Few wedding songs from Vani
  
  1. Mangala Nayagi Vanthale mavilai thoranam thantale - Movie: Sri Thevi Music: Shyam
  2. Ponne Poongkodi mane penne neeyadi - Ore ratham , Devandran
  3. Thayaki Vetcha Yen thangame nee poghum idam selvam Pongume - Rowdi Rakama - SG
  4. Malligai Mullai Poo Panthal - Anbe Aruyire - MSV
  5. Manamagale un manavarai Kolam - Mayankugiral Oru Mathu VB
  6. Kalyana Melamadi Melamadi Khatule Ketkuthadi with MS Vasu, Movie??? music IR
  7. Alangaram Abishagem archanai arambam with MS Vasu Movie: Nallanthana SG
  8. Kalyaname oru penoduthan - Lalitha MSV
  9. Araicha manjala alli yedhuthu yenga akka pusikitha with SP Sailaja GA
  10. Ponne Bhoomiyedi with S. Janaki Shyam
  
  
• From: siva (@ 194.180.160.10) on: Sat Nov 16 02:59:52 EST 2002
  
  Saravanan
  
  "Manjal veyil sevvaanathil minnakkanden ennerathil......" from Shankari suny by KJJ&VJ.
  Have you heard this song ever?
  
  
• From: siva (@ 194.180.160.10) on: Sat Nov 16 03:00:45 EST 2002
  
  Saravanan
  
  "Manjal veyil sevvaanathil minnakkanden ennerathil......" from Shankari sung by KJJ&VJ.
  Have you heard this song ever?
  
  
  
  
• From: Saravanan (@ 213.42.1.170) on: Thu Nov 21 03:40:10 EST 2002
  
  Sorry- I am unable to write this week. I've been travelling a bit and work also has been tight. My apologies. Will defintely write next week.
  
  Siva, I haven't heard that Shankari song. The only songs from Shankari I seem to remember are 'Bharathikku oru Kannamma' and 'Aduthathau Sengamalam'.
  
  
• From: siva (@ 194.180.160.10) on: Mon Nov 25 06:41:31 EST 2002
  
  saravanan
  
  
  Do you remember any song in the movie Nenjele thuniverunthaal? Vijayakanth's film in 80's
  
  
• From: OISG (@ 193.188.97.152) on: Mon Nov 25 07:45:17 EST 2002
  
  The only hit song from Nenjile was "Chithirame,Un Vizhigal Kothu malar kanaigal" by KJY.MD-Shankar Ganesh.
  
  This movie *ing VK,Swapna,Vijayshanthi was renamed by movie fans as "Nenjile Thuni irunthal".
  
  SA Chandrasekaran brought back Kabbadi game into limelight with this movie.Vijayashanthi playing Kabaddi with Peeli Sivam Raja was the crowd puller.
  
  
• From: Cinema Virumbi (@ 203.197.220.221) on: Mon Nov 25 09:04:20 EST 2002
  
  OISG,
  
  You are tempting me to say something which I avoided all these days!!!! 'avaLOda raavugaL' was renamed by some of my friends as ' avaL thodai oru kadhai'!!. Some others felt even 'avaL thodai oru gadhai' would have been equally appropriate!!!!
  
  
• From: S (@ 216.52.49.5) on: Mon Nov 25 21:40:21 EST 2002
  
  Not only viyayashanthi's... also swapna' by vijaykanth in a dream sequence.... "that squeezing" shots were present..
  
  
• From: OISG (@ 193.188.97.152) on: Mon Nov 25 23:51:26 EST 2002
  
  **dig
  
  It s pity that only Pavithran mangaged to keep the SAC flag flying!Shankar learnt the art of "how-not-make-a film" from SAC and is now making decent movies.Although "Tikkilona & Cuplings" were a rehash of "SAC s Kabbadi"
  
  End dig**
  
  Back to VJ
  
  
• From: Siva (@ 194.180.160.10) on: Tue Nov 26 06:56:49 EST 2002
  
  
  
  VJ has sung lots of tamil songs for tamil film industrie.But Leading recording companys not realising VJ songs collection in CD's and Audio cassettes.
  Any reason behind it? Can any one clarify it?
  
  
• From: Saravanan (@ 213.42.1.170) on: Wed Nov 27 02:10:20 EST 2002
  
  In this episode, let us recollect the 3 songs that VJ sang for 2 different Music Directors in 1977.
  We have already seen the memorable songs that VJ sang for MSV, Vijayabhaskar and S-G during ’77. Those three were the MDs whose names are inseparable from any discussion on Vani’s works in tfm. They were the architects who helped shape VJ’s career and gave her an unassailable position as a front ranking singer, whom no MD could afford to ignore.
  
  This week, we are going to discuss the songs of 1977 that she sang under the baton of KV Mahadevan, and V Kumar.
  
  113.Mangala Kannagi- Thaaliya Salangaiya- KVM
  
  The film starred R Muthraman and Vanisri. The title sounds KSGish-so in all probability it was his film.
  
  By 1977 KVM was no longer a name to reckon with in tfm. He was concentrating on his flourishing career in Telugu and had only a handful of tamizh films. He composed the music for only 3 tamizh films in 1977- Muruganadimai, Thaaliya Salangaiya and Mazhai Megam.
  
  Mr. Vamanan, the writer, often used to tell me that the tamizh film song has a much longer life than the film itself. Thaaliya Salangaiya is a telling instance of this statement.
  Though the film itself is all but forgotten (as perhaps it deserves to be, too!), the songs live on. The KVM-TKP team showed that they could still deliver the goods, and how!! If PS’s ‘Maduraikku sendraal megangale, ithai mangai Meenatchikku koorungalen’ is a classic, KJY’s ‘Vanji thu vanji’ is also a song that cannot be consigned to the dustbin of history so easily.
  
  And as for this song under discussion, it will stand testimony, for decades to come, to the amazing vocal skills of the singer-
  
  Mangala Kannagi, Kunguma Janaki, nalangal thulanga vilanga aniyum thaaliya?
  Nadaga kaaviya kaaviri Madhavi, mayangi kulungi arangil aniyum salangaiyaa?
  Thaaliyaa?
  Salangaiyaa?
  
  Manamagal- ivalennum deiva bandhama?
  Vilaimagal-ivalennum dhinasari sondhama?
  Thaalikkum medai-
  Salangaikkum medai-
  Irandil ethu nerumo?
  Thalaivan oruvan vazhangum bandham serumo?
  
  Sathiyam-thathuvam pongum vaazhkkaiya?
  Nithiyam-methaiyil konjum vaazhkkaiyaa?
  Kalaimagal endre marumagal aagum punitha nilai serumo?
  Thagatheem thagatheem enave aada nerumo?
  
  Ilamai meni ithu perumaiyodu kollum malargalo?
  Sabai yeri aadi nenjai soorai aadum iru vizhigalo?
  Oru ullam thannil thanai alli vaikkum uyar angamo?
  Malar palli meedhu seiyyum kalla kathal tharum sangamo?
  
  Kaadhalum ennai marukkumo?
  Vedamum ennai verukkumo?
  Naadhame ennai anaikkumo?
  Nallavan ullam manakkumo?
  
  Kalaiyo-
  Enna nilaiyo?
  Porulo-
  Iraivan arulo?
  
  Kannadasan used to write in Kumudam, about different people from various walks of life, who made a lasting impact on him, under the head ‘Indha Vaaram Sandhithen’. These articles were later compiled and brought out as a book –‘Sandhithen, Sindhithen’. It is to Vani’s eternal glory that she is the only playback singer the Kavignar has written on. And in no ordinary terms either. He says that there are some people towards whom we develop an inexplicable affection and respect, even though we haven’t met them often or spoken to them much, and VJ was one such person. He goes on to heap unreserved praise on her, and if I remember right, he says ‘ Muraiyaana payirchi ullathaal, eliya Carnadagathil Vaniyin kural olikkum pothu, andha sugame alaadhi--’
  
  When we listen to this song, we realise all at once, what Kavignar meant and why he chose to single out Vani for such eloquent praise.
  
  I haven’t seen the film, and nor am I likely to, and so the contextual position of the song is not known. The song seems to appear in some important turn in the story- perhaps the climax, and Vanisri is in a dilemma, wondering what fate is in store for her- a career as a danseuse and a tranquil life of a housewife seems to be the two options before her, and which path will she take?
  
  And Vani singing for Vani(sri), takes on this emotionally charged song with effortless ease.
  It is no easy compostion- the pallavi itself is so long and fast-paced and the charanams that follow, ending with the heartrending query-Thaaliyaa? Salangaiyaa?- are filled with long lines. The singer has to do a delicate balancing act here and Vani was indeed the right choice. Only that Kalaivani knows how this Vani managed to maintain the frenzied pace, without besmirching the beauty of the lyrics(the clarity of each syllable is a ceaseless wonder), at the same time reflecting the deep anguish and despair of the character (hark at the emotional crescendo in the end!), even while doing ample justice as a vocalist- (the light brigas and gamakas are spellbinding)- Aam Kaviarasare, andha sugame alaadhi thaan!
  
  KVM-TKP also must be commended for this masterpiece, and this song was perhaps a curtain-raiser for the future magical creations of Shankarabharanam and Swathikiranam, which remain immortal examples of the KVM-VJ collaborations.
  
  
  114.Indha Radha-Krishnan kaathal- Sondhamadi Nee Enakku- SPB- V Kumar
  
  Varadarajulu Kumar (1934-1996) was a great man and he was even greater because he was totally unaware of his own greatness. Right from his first film Neerkumizhi –1965 to his last Meendum Mahan-1987 (which he composed under the name ‘VK’), he maintained a high standard of excellence, melody being his first, middle and last names.
  
  He was so much in awe of MSV, that when he wished that MSV should sing for him (Unakkenna Kurachal nee oru raja-Velli Vizha), he asked KB to approach MSV!! He maintained a low profile throughout his career, and till today, the music he has left behind speaks volumes of his greatness. Nijamaagave, Unakkenna Kurachal, nee oru Raja!
  
  It was definitely not an easy task to be able to survive when giants like MSV and KVM were in the pinnacle of their career, but Kumar, with the initial continued patronage of KB, managed to carve an enviable niche for himself.
  
  He gave opportunities to neglected lyricists like Suratha and Alangudi Somu. PS was his all time favourite, and she did ample justice to his mellifluous creations.
  Other singers to whom Kumar gave good songs, even though their careers had all but ended were Soolamangalam Rajalakshmi (Kuyil thoovi-Naanal-1965 and Illatha pillaikku naan-Appa Tata-1972) and Jamunarani (Punnagai mannan-Iru Kodugal-1969 and Ellorum kuzhamthaigal-Avalum Pennthaane-1975). Kumar’s ‘Kaathodu thaan naan paaduven’-Velli Vizha has become a milestone in LRE’s career. Though his wife K Swarna was a good singer, he gave her only a few songs, thus showing his strict professional ethics. Swarna is remembered for songs like ‘Ennodu ennenavo ragasiyam’-Thoondil Meen, ‘Inangalile enna inam’-Nalla Pennmani etc. SJ and VJ were the other singers who got to sing some good songs for Kumar.
  
  Sondhamadi Nee Enakku starred Jaishankar and Sripriya (or was it Jayachitra?)
  Other songs in the film include ‘Penalla nee oru bommai’-JC-PS, “Naalukku naal’-TMS and ‘Poojai paattu’-TMS.
  
  I have seen this song on TV long back- I remember the hero and heroine dancing and romancing in the Marina, with a crowd looking at them in wonder. The lyrics also reflect this ‘Don’t Care’ attitude-
  
  SPB:Indha Radha-Krishnan kaathal enbathu ragasiyamaanathalla-
  Ithai ooro uravao paarthaalenna yaar thaan kathai solla
  VJ: Indha Radha-Krishnan kaathal enbathu ragasiyamaanathalla-
  Ithai ooro uravao paarthaalenna yaar thaan kathai solla
  
  SPB:Moham- vilaindhadhu edharkaaga?
  Degam-thaviththathu adharkaaga!
  VJ: Gangai irukkum pakkam en Kannan vandhaada
  SPB:Mangai irukkum kolam en nenjai pandhaada
  VJ: Anubhavam illatha vayathallava
  SPB:Adharkkithu sariyaana pozhuthallava
  Kanmani Santhi,
  Vaa vaa endhan kaigalil neendhi--!
  
  The song continues in this style- fast-paced and an unashamed declaration of their love for the whole world to see!
  
  
  115.Azahithaal varaavidil thudippen- Ellam Avale- SPB- V Kumar
  I have not seen this film either-but remember hearing somewhere that it starred Mu ka Muthu. Mu Ka Muthu was the son of Kalaignar and his first wife, Padma(?). His first film was ‘Pillaiyo Pillai’-1972 (the shooting of the film commenced at AVM Studios on 21.10.71, with AVM Chettiar switching on the camera and MGR sounding the clap!!). His other films include Pookari-1973, Samayalkaran-1974, Anaiya Vilakku-1975 and Nambikkai Natchathiram-1975. He was last seen on screen, singing ‘Surulu meesakkaaranadi Veluthambi’ in Veeran Veluthambi-1987.
  
  Mu Ka Muthu was himself a good singer, which is not surprising, considering that there was music in his blood. His maternal grandfather was called ‘Padaga’ Sundaram Pillai- a great singer, and his maternal uncle was none other than CS Jayaraman. Among the memorable songs sung by Muthu are ‘Sondhakkaranga enakku romba perunga’-Samayalkaran, ‘Nalla manathil kudirukkum’-Anaiya Vilakku, ‘Moham athu muppathu naal’-Anaiya Vilakku-with PS and ‘Aayiram kaalathu uravu’-Nambikkai Natchathiram-with SJ.
  
  Muthu doesn’t seem to have sung any song in ‘Ellam Avale’. The two stand-out songs in the film are ‘Naan varaintha oviyame’- (among Jayachandran’s best songs) and a personal favourite of mine- ‘Nalla vaazhvu vandhadhu’-TMS-SJ. Another song is ‘Kulirukku bayanthavan’-TMS-PS.
  
  SPB:Azhaithaal-
  varaavidil thudippen-
  Valaikkaram pidippen-
  Anaithaal-
  Tharadhadhai koduppen
  Peraadhadhai peruven
  Idhu mudhal naal—
  
  VJ: Nadukkam-
  Thoda thoda irukkum!
  Enakkum-
  Mudhal mudhal pazhakkam!
  Thirumeni vaadaamal, thiru osai vaaraamal,
  Tharuvathai tharavendume--
  Idhu mudhal naal--
  
  SPB:Iruttil -
  Ilakkiyam padikkum
  Idhazhgal-
  vidindhappin mudikkum
  Pala nooru pakkangal
  Padithaale vetkkangal
  Vara vara kuraivaagum vaa- vaa
  Idhu mudhal naal--
  
  VJ: Aaa—Vidungal!
  Kodi idai valikkum
  Viralgal-
  Nagangalai padhikkum
  SPB:Adaiyaalam therindhaalum-
  Alankaram kalainthaalum-
  Adhil oru sugam undu vaa-vaa-
  Idhu muthal naal—
  
  SPB and VJ seemed to have had a blast singing this song. Both are at their playful best, and make this song ooze in ‘Sringara’ rasam. VJ sounds so coy at times (hark at that ‘Aa-Vidungal’!) and SPB gives his teasing laugh in between.
  
  -- 1977 to be continued, with two more MDs-
  
  
  
  
• From: Cinema Virumbi (@ 203.197.220.211) on: Wed Nov 27 08:45:47 EST 2002
  
  Saravanan,
  
  Mu.Ka.Muthu had acted in 'ingEyum manithargaL' and 'veLLikkizhamai' (I'm not very sure about the latter). In 'ingEyum manithargaL' (I think about prisoners), he sang 'ingEyum manithargaL, idhayamthaan uLLavargaL, ungLilE, engaLaiyum oruvaraaga eNNungaL... harE raamaa harE krishNaa...etc.,' and a lullaby 'aaraarO aaraarO aaRudhal solvaarO? seeraaga vaLarththa unnai sondham yaar koLvaarO?'
  
  

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