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A R Rahman and Harris Jayaraj respect Musicians, Harmony and Chorus in Tapes/Cd covers.

Topic started by Tape (@ 203.124.234.166) on Thu Jan 2 01:17:44 EST 2003.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

I think only after A R Rahman came into the music world, talents such as Harmony, Chorus and musicians started getting respect and recognition. It is always seen that in A R Rahman tapes and cd's, then chorus, harmony and the musicians names are printed. I think it was'nt there before ARR came.

Popular drummer Sivamani, a childhood friend of A R Rahman and a professional regular with him, says "Our association began when we both were really young. We had this band called Roots. We just make very good music together. He is a master of Laya (melody) and Taala (beat). The recognition that I enjoy today is because of Rahman. There are so many talented people behind a film music score. I played for Ilayaraja for very long, but my name never figured on the screen or the cassette cover. Rahman changed it all. He gives credit to every single member of his team for whatever part they play, big or small. That makes him really special. People came to know about me only because of him. I thank him for that".

And now Harris Jayaraj started following this procedure. Take a look at the tape covers.

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Responses:

• From: Pradeep R (@ 203.199.12.50) on: Thu Jan 2 03:17:15 EST 2003
  
  I wud agree 100%! In fact ARR has himself said this in his interviews!
  
  
• From: Pradeep R (@ 203.199.12.50) on: Thu Jan 2 03:17:30 EST 2003
  
  I wud agree 100%! In fact ARR has himself said this in his interviews!
  
  
• From: Are Yaar (@ 203.115.31.67) on: Thu Jan 2 05:34:05 EST 2003
  
  Now people here will say that Siva Mani is musically insane....Wait for this obvious verdict.
  
  
• From: sabesan (@ 64.129.181.69) on: Thu Jan 2 07:57:56 EST 2003
  
  not sure how true is the title statement - cause atleast i knew "Drums" Sivamani much b4 ARR came into scene - how is that ? hmm.... i am not able to recollect how, though....
  
  
• From: Kum_Laden (@ 24.100.182.75) on: Thu Jan 2 11:46:18 EST 2003
  
  Obviously ARR is a better man than any muscians out there!
  
  I dont remember which bollywood site a read it but it says "Everyone was thinking ARRahman was gone but he remains in top with Saathiye while all other MDs are trying to keep their heads over the water.People are singing his songs"
  
  
• From: tigger (@ 205.219.204.23) on: Thu Jan 2 12:19:58 EST 2003
  
  Jesus F*** Christ!! You guys will never change will you?? Here I come to read TFM hoping that at least something will change with the new year, and what do we find? "ARR is a better man than any muscians out there.."
  
  Thirunthungadaa! Summa artistes udaya personal life pathi eandaa ungalukku kavalai? talk about the music...
  
  
• From: Kum_Laden (@ 24.100.182.75) on: Thu Jan 2 23:28:55 EST 2003
  
  :))
  
  
• From: Rugby (@ 61.11.73.84) on: Fri Jan 3 03:15:05 EST 2003
  
  ARR did not have any other way to show himself different from other MD's.Ir had already done this in his albums HNI & NBW.
  
  
• From: gomathi selvi (@ ) on: Fri May 14 10:50:42 EDT 2004
  
  We people feel proud to say that A R Rehman And Siva Mani belong to India.Their combination works excellently . I wanna learn drums from sivamani . can u plz send me some details.
  
  
• From: bukhatir (@ 129.93.134.41) on: Fri May 14 11:44:52 EDT 2004
  
  Sivamani
  c/o Bukhatir
  Vivekananda salai
  dubai 00001
  vera velai illaya ungalakku.its high time they close newtfmpage.com so that people will do useful things other than vambu pesarathu. probably people will appreciate every music director's album even more
  
  
• From: Vj (@ 203.196.170.98) on: Fri May 14 21:25:22 EDT 2004
  
  IR was supposedly the first MD to be featured on posters of tamil movies. Does that mean that the earlier MDs were disrespected and hence their photos were'nt in the posters?
  
  It all comes down to marketing strategy. If you are popular and if you are one of the USP of the movie, your face has high probability of appearing in the credits. Remember, Vivek was projected more than the hero in the movie "University".
  
  
• From: Vj (@ 203.196.170.98) on: Fri May 14 21:31:57 EDT 2004
  
  ....and coming to musician credits in covers of Tapes/CDs, its just another way of projecting things, yet another marketing strategy and yes, it started from ARR. Maybe as days go on, we may have every person (not only the lead instrument players) who worked a song will get credited. Appreciate things as they are and stop comparing.
  
  
• From: curses (@ 203.101.39.41) on: Fri May 14 23:29:02 EDT 2004
  
  How is giving credit where it's due, a marketing strategy?
  
  
• From: jaggu (@ 69.41.96.6) on: Sat May 15 00:16:36 EDT 2004
  
  hai guys i read your message.. the topic is true.. but when IR was the music director the whole music was composed by whole orchestra . u cant name all the people inthe tape. but after ARR, he bought the trend of electronic music. where he rarely uses orchestra instead he uses individual drum player, percussion , harmony and so on which can easily fit inthe 1"x 1" tape back. guys remember one thing.. he might have done justice to sivamani ... wht about ... the orchestra people.? any idea.. heard more than 40 ppl were playing violin during IRs period... where are they ... who z supporting them...
  
  
• From: : ) (@ 202.156.2.218) on: Tue May 18 05:51:15 EDT 2004
  
  A.R.Rahman started the trend of havin credits on cd covers.. tats great of him...i wouldn't be surprised if harris jeyaraj copy him.
  
  
• From: Ashok Kumar (@ ) on: Sat Oct 9 07:24:16 EDT 2004
  
  I am a very very big fan of a. r. rahman music. He created a new revolution in Indian music. He is simple great ever and for ever.
  
  Ashok Kumar
  Hyderabad
  
  
• From: dinesh (@ 210.186.42.22) on: Sat Oct 9 08:48:21 EDT 2004
  
  hi guys,ARR is def a better Man than IR,he has the heart to share all the credits with his technicians,whilw IR wants all the credit goes to him,it came out from an artist mouth it self!
  
  I played for Ilayaraja for very long, but my name never figured on the screen or the cassette cover. Rahman changed it all. He gives credit to every single member of his team for whatever part they play, big or small. That makes him really special. People came to know about me only because of him. I thank him for that".
  
  
• From: cho (@ 209.47.143.226) on: Sat Oct 9 08:50:16 EDT 2004
  
  jaggu, I agree with you totally...
  
  These ARR fanatics do not realize that. ARR sent home a lot of talented instrumentalists and replaced them with software.. Now we are saying that ARR is recognising his instrumentalists.. How ignorant! ARR doesn't need perfectionists. He will make the singers and those (3 or 4 instrumentalists at the most?!) to sing and play whatever they like.. and then after they left, he would correct the pitch, tone, tempo and what not with the software.. How good is that? Konjam yosicha puriyum, who is getting fooled here -endru! It's not just ARR. Deva, YSR etc etc.. are all doing the same thing. But ARR is the leader of all.
  
  
  
• From: dinesh (@ 210.186.42.9) on: Sat Oct 9 11:33:57 EDT 2004
  
  cho (@ 209.47.143.226) - one word describes u ! JELOUSE :P
  
  
• From: hhhw (@ 130.127.104.190) on: Sat Oct 9 13:08:51 EDT 2004
  
  Jealous-ku thappa spelling pottutu perumaya sirippu veraya? :)
  
  ARR & HJ respect musicians, light boy, coffeeboy. Seri, adhukku ippo inaandra?
  
  
• From: MADDY (@ 203.94.234.48) on: Sat Oct 9 19:59:26 EDT 2004
  
  mr.cho, that's the gr8ness of ARR....he is a gr8 manager....he uses an management funda which is "Decentralisation"........IR is very centralised and doesent let anyone else share his workload.......so naturally IR does all the work and doesent give credits to anyone......absolutely fine......
  
  
• From: AppAvi (@ 148.87.1.171) on: Sat Oct 9 21:14:35 EDT 2004
  
  Then, don't call him a composer but a manager!!
  I don't think it is any greatness but a shame to delegate the composing work to others and call himself a composer and demand crores of ruppees.
  
  ARR should be the luckiest fellow on the earth.
  He couldn't come up with any meaningful orchestration, so opted for high pitched beats and good recording; people called it a great innovation. His melodies (if you really call them so) never had any depth or life; but people credited him saying that he simplified melodies. He couldn't do his job on his own, so begged other musicians like HJ, Pravin Mani and Ranjit parot for help, singers and every fellow who can offer some help; but people still credit him for decentralising his duties and responsibilities. Strange indeed ....
  
  
• From: AppAvi (@ 148.87.1.171) on: Sat Oct 9 21:18:23 EDT 2004
  
  People like IR, MSV, earlier MDs and even the current ones YSR, VS, HJ didn't "decentralise" the work, BECAUSE THEY HAD THE ABILITY TO DO IT THEMSELVES. Not because, they didn't know it.
  
  
• From: Simple Logic (@ 209.142.209.161) on: Sat Oct 9 21:56:19 EDT 2004
  
  Naturally, he will give credit to them. Coz they are responsible for his success. Even he did everything by himself, then he wont be praising them, will he?
  
  
• From: Simple Logic (@ 209.142.209.161) on: Sat Oct 9 21:56:49 EDT 2004
  
  Naturally, he will give credit to them. Coz they are responsible for his success. Even he did everything by himself, then he wont be praising them, will he?
  
  
• From: Simple Logic (@ 209.142.209.161) on: Sat Oct 9 21:57:19 EDT 2004
  
  Naturally, he will give credit to them. Coz they are responsible for his success. If he did everything by himself, then he wont be praising them, will he?
  
  
• From: * (@ 209.142.209.161) on: Sat Oct 9 21:59:57 EDT 2004
  
  10 years? Dreaming is it? Baba, Kadhal Virus cant even survive 2 years HE HE HE
  
  
• From: dinesh (@ 210.186.42.37) on: Sat Oct 9 22:03:34 EDT 2004
  
  Appavi,i think ur really talking bout the ARR which composes Heavy musics.its becoz ARR tells the press about his technicians contribution to his musics which makes u guys easier to bash him.just imagine that ARR didint tell all those,i bet there isnt anything for u to bash him!i give u some list of songs which have depth & soul!!
  1.anjali Anjali - duet
  2.Kannuku mai azhaku - Pudhiya mugam
  3.Yen mel vizhuntha - May Madham
  4.Margali Poove - May Madham
  5.En Kadhale - Duet
  6.Orey Chori - Lagaan
  7.Ishwar Allah - 1947 Earth
  8.Yedho Yetho - E20U18
  9.En uyir tozhiye - KKS
  10.Narumugaye - Iruvar
  11.Pookodiyin - Iruvar
  12.En vitu tothathil - Gentleman
  13.Vennilave venilave - Misara Kanavu
  14.Ennavale - Kadhalan
  15.Kolaiyile - Kadhalan
  16.Kayil mithakum - Ratchakan
  17.Nenje Nenje - Ratchakan
  18.Kapal yeri poyachu - Indian
  19.Poovukul olinthirukum - JEANS
  20.Anbe Anbe - Jeans
  21.Sneghidene - Alaipayuthey
  22.Kuruthu sivanthavale - Mudhalvan
  23.Kandukoindain Kandukoindain - Kandukoindain Kandukoindain
  24.Ethu Sugam Sugam athu - Vandi Solai chinarasu
  25.Khamoshiyan Gungunane Lagi - One 2 Ka 4
  26.Putham pudhu boomi vendum - Thiruda Thiruda
  27.Pudhu Vellai Mazhai - Roja
  28.Thedrale - Kadhal Dhesam
  29.Kadhalenum - Kadhalar dhinam
  30.Malargale - Love Birds
  31.Hai Na - Zubeida
  32.Thee kuruvi - KKS
  33.Kadhale - Rangeela
  34.Warriors in Peace (Chinese) - WOHE
  35.Kannalane - Bombay
  36.Uyire Uyire - Bombay
  37.Nenjinile - Uyire
  38.Kismate tum Hum - Pukar
  39.Kalayil Dhinamum - NEW
  40.Raa kozhi - Uzhavan
  
  this r some of ARR's Best!!!
  
  

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