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Topic started by Padmanabhan Ganesan (@ igw2.merck.com) on Tue Aug 5 09:23:34 EDT 1997.
All times in EDT +9:30 for IST.

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From: Padmanabhan Ganesan (@ igw2.merck.com) on: Tue Aug 5 09:26:25 EDT 1997

Guys & Gals,

Instead of discussing in bits and pieces why don't we start music reviews of new films :
Devathai (not yet available in US)
VIP
Kadavul (a new movie of IR avl in US)
and other new movies.
This would be useful in making purchase/dub decisions. Let's do a professional job about this.
From: Gopal (@ host-207-53-2-89.atl.bellsouth.net) on: Tue Aug 5 10:15:11 EDT 1997

Some more

kaadhal Rojave
kanmani Oru Kavidhai
Punyavathi
Poonjolai
Karuvelampookkal (at least BGM)
Guru
Yathra Mozhi
From: Gokul (@ 204.76.131.140) on: Tue Aug 5 14:52:54 EDT 1997

Gopal

Karuvelampookal (Atleast BGM) appadina enna?
From: Heeheehee (@ 202.184.134.10) on: Tue Aug 5 20:45:12 EDT 1997

Limited to IR movies only, I see!
From: Ravi (@ eagle.vapower.com) on: Wed Aug 6 07:40:29 EDT 1997

To (smartAlec) Heeheehee,

VIP's MD is Ranjit Bharot.
From: kumar (@ 148.5.30.79) on: Wed Aug 6 09:20:02 EDT 1997

for hehee (sunil):

kadali (deva)
poochudava (sirpi)
nandini (sirpi)
once more (deva)
love today (deva)
Thayin manikodi (vidya sagar)
Suryavamsam (S.A rajkumar)
Natupura nayagan (Sirpi)

enough ..?
From: Kanchana (@ ww-ty03.proxy.aol.com) on: Mon Aug 11 11:00:11 EDT 1997

Saw "Once More" this week end in Washington D.C., starring Shivaji, Saroja Devi and Vijay. Music is by Deva. All the songs were for dream sequences, with group choreographies; Deva's scores did not stay with me, even while I was watching the songs on screen! All the songs reminded me of some other compositions, and are not distinctive. Since the story line builds on one of Shivaji's classics, song shorts from the classic are repeated (don't want to give details for fear of spoiling it for those of you who have not seen it). Deva is spared from further music composing, by using these song clips and instrumentals from other Shivaji oldies for BGM--smart move, Deva!

Devavin visirigalae: I hope the above is an objective review. For my subjective opinion on Deva as an MD, see the thread "IR-Vairamuthu--SPB comination: Myth or Reality?" in this forum.
From: Kannan (@ peugeot.instinet.com) on: Mon Aug 11 16:38:12 EDT 1997

I saw 'Once more' last weekend and neither the movie nor the music was good enough to see that once more. There is one OK song, sung by vijay, urmila. This songs reminds me 'singaarappeNNukku mai konduvaa nandhalaalaa'. rest of 'em are waste.

I don't know what you people expect in this page. Because so far only Kanchana has posted music review for a movie. Does that mean you want review for the remaining films? (I guess, many people here have listened to Dhevadhai and VIP and so far nobody has posted a review. Anyway I've seen VIP and it's really good (both the music and the movie)).
From: Kitcha (@ dhcp80-30.ee.ufl.edu) on: Fri Aug 15 16:19:32 EDT 1997

Kumar:
Music for "Love Today"is by a new MD called
Siva. Yuck! The music doesn't deserve a review.

VIP...... Got to listen to the music. Very very Rehmanish and all the singers dishing out numbers in that "accented" Tamil that's creeping into all Tamil songs these days. The song "Netru NoNO" sounds very familiar to some Ad's music.
"Minnal Oru KOdi" is OK and "Echankattule" is passable. If you are a ARR fan then VIP is for you.

Devadai..... One great great song by IR and that must be SJ's comeback song. "Oru Naal' is just too good. If you ever get to watch the movie you'll all get to like the song "AndamKidduKidinge". The perfect song for that situation and made possible by a genius called IR.

Once More........ Deva has done it once more.
Yov! paatte pOde sonna,jananga kekra maathiri podanam.Athe vittitu....... In one word(Sorry Deva fans) "Sahikale"!
From: Pagalavan (@ mb.cisco.com) on: Fri Aug 15 19:46:49 EDT 1997

Kitcha:

Your note about "andam kidukidunga.." of Devathai is good. I was listening to the song, before seeying the film. It sounded like lack of any sophistication. But after seeying the film, I understood, how much efforts Maestro would have taken to imagine for a period that belongs to 400 years back with very limited instruments..Its really perfect for that situation..
From: PG (@ client-116-10.bellatlantic.net) on: Mon Aug 18 19:41:19 EDT 1997

KadavuL
Music : ILaiyaraaja

On the whole IR has used a lot of synthesizers in this album but the result doesn't lose its folksy feel. IR tries out different orchestration style too. IR fans will love this album.

1. Enakku oru raasa venum - Amudha

A nice melody sung by a new singer Amudha. Quite different orchestration from IR.

2. KoyilukkuL irukkira kuppai kooLam eduthaa - Chitra

Chitra's great voice in this OK song.

3. Poovarasampoove - AruNmozhi, Sujatha

The pick of the album. All the other songs are OK but this song is the best of the album. A lilting melody backed by good singing and good orchestration. A song I would be listening five years from now. Should climb the charts.

4. Kaadhalai MaRuppadhu - Unnikrishnan, Sujatha

This is another different song. I am still trying to get hang of this song after about 5 listenings. The song is quite good.

5. Aadhi Sivan - Bhavathaarini

Bhavathaarini renders this 'saamiyaata' song quite well. Otherwise nothing special.

6. ARivirndha - Malaysia Vaasudevan

The beginning of this song reminded me of the Naagoor Haniffa song from Raaman Abdullaah. The song is of the same style. (Naastika song).

VIP
Music : Ranjit Barot

ARR has been cloned. If you didn't know before that the music for this album was scored by Ranjit Barot, you wouldn't believe it. RB has cloned ARR's style a 100%. Right from use of singers who sing with a pseudo-accent from god-knows-where to heavy beats, Ranjit Barot has cloned ARR's style.

1. Netru no no - Dominique, Shankar Mahaadevan
A Taminglish song with English words thrown in just for the heck of it, this should be a hit with the hip crowd. Shankar Mahaadevan pronounces 'Vaanam Pon Vaanam' as 'Vaenaem Pon Vaenaem'. I don't know where this accent is in vogue.

2. Minnal Oru Kodi - Hariharan, Chitra.
A so-so duet.

3. Mayilu Mayilu Mayilamma - Unnikrishnan, Mano, Chitram Ranjani.
This is the pick of the album. A simple melody, good singing, not-too-heavy orchestration makes this listening to. I liked Ranjani's voice. Looks like her first song.

4. Vandhadhe Luck - Ranjit Barot.
With the likes of Shankar Mahaadevan singing, why not Ranjit Barot ? After he is the MD.

5. Eechang Kaatule - KK, Anupama.
Pretty good duet. I don't know who KK is.

6. Indira - Dominique, Chiprabose, Anupama.

If you are a lover of ARR's music grab VIP.
From: Gopi (@ neesgate.neesnet.com) on: Wed Aug 20 12:28:46 EDT 1997

Music IR
kadahal rojaavae-
---------------------
I shall stick to the pick of the lot.

manam pona - SPB chitra
This song is one hell of a number . Sax use
in the middle deserves mention. Will gain immortal stature. But certainly won't be a hit.
thottu thottu -SPB and sujatha
familiar tune but IR and SPB excel in
the charanam and turn this into a nice melody.

ninaitha varam -Unni krishnan and somebody
melody and good.

ila venil -SPB and Chitra
OK
The rest are not worh mentioning

Poonjolai
------
gana kuyilae- SPB and bavadharani
Nice melody
un peri kettalae- Yugandrean (Malayasia'son) and bavadharani
beautiful song
I don't listen to anything except these two.

Punniavadhi
-----------------
-----------
'poovae poovae' -bavadharani
She really caresses this song with a
childish voice
along the lines of (kuzhal oodhum kannan
from mella thirandhadhu kanavu)
But the song is a superb.
'oru aaaloppol velappol' -IR and Chitra
Good one .
I don't listen to the rest.
From: Aravind (@ 202.42.152.9) on: Wed Aug 20 22:40:24 EDT 1997

Gopal

I have listened to this song from 'puNNIyavathi' many times on Singapore Radio. The song is 'oru aalampoovu Elampoovaip paaththathuNdaa'. Superb song. IR nejamaagavE nanRaagap paadiyirukkiraar. sema beat.
From: njAn_GURU_kEtEn (@ bones.deneb.com) on: Thu Aug 21 02:03:50 EDT 1997

When I was in Guruvayoor I got the "GURU" casattee by IR.
First time when I heard it, definitely it sounded
very different.
One song was very catchy. I was keenly listening
to find out the so-called different music
instruments IR used - couldn't figure out.
Lots of Symphony type interlude music - the cover
itself
lists the names of muscicians from Budapest Symphony.
There is a song in the style of "EthO mOgam Etho thAgam"
from "kOzi koovuthu" (one of my favorite IR songs) with beautiful
chorus humming and Symphony style music.
It looks like IR wanted to measure the makkal's
taste
regarding SYM - Azam pArkirAr ?? - before releasing the original.

After hearing few more times - it is good.

The main missing thing is TAMIL - sakalamum malayalaMAKKUM
evvida nokinum malayala vAdai with KJJ voice.

There are totally 6 songs (KJJ - only male singer)
There is some kind of explanation before each song
(one of them mentioned IR's name) -
nJAn Malayalam avlo PARITCHAYAM arinju illai

It is worth buying for 40Rs.
From: Gokul (@ 204.76.131.140) on: Thu Aug 21 20:38:09 EDT 1997

Kanmani Oru Kavidhai:

This movie is directed by Bharathan (AavaramPoove in Thamizh and numerous Mallu
movies).

Mu.Metha evvalavvu mudiyumo avvalavu ella
paataiyum keduthirukkirar.

If you disregard the words following songs (out of 6) are good.

Ulagam Unakku Puthusu..
Jangu Jangu ..
RimJim RimJim Enru..
Naadam Azhaithu Vanda Geetham..

All the above songs are by SPB Charan and
Chitra. The last one has Bombay Jayashri too.
From: Pagalavan (@ batboy.cisco.com) on: Fri Aug 22 00:36:27 EDT 1997

Gopi, iruthaalum neenga romba mOsam. Kaadhal RojaavE has 10 songs. Of which you have mentioned just a few. After listening the album twice, my pick is this (marks included):

1. manam pOna pOkkil (9/10)
2. iLavEnil..(8/10)
3. thottu thottu (8/10)
4. ninaiththa varam (8/10)
5. siriththaale..(6/10)
6. pudhup poNNu..(6/10)
7. midnighttu..aamaa (6/10)
others are ok (5/10)

By and large, one can feel the new "enthu" of Maestro in these songs..
From: Gokul (@ 204.76.131.140) on: Thu Aug 28 20:01:25 EDT 1997

Has anybody listened to Karuvelam PooKaL?
How is it?

Is Jeans CD out?
From: swaminathan chandrasekaran (@ 129.107.61.83) on: Fri Aug 29 20:38:01 EDT 1997

Hai Guys'
I' swami from Tamilnadu. I,m an adrdent admirer of IR. Will I be able to get the songs of GURU in Dallas, Where I live. Would anyone play it on the net.
From: pg (@ igw2.merck.com) on: Tue Sep 16 11:21:10 EDT 1997

I heard Kaadhal Rojave songs. IMO these are all thagara dappa songs. Nothing to write about. Vaali has written trash like midnight maama muthu edukkalama.

I also heard dEvadhai songs. deepangal pesum idhu kaarthigai maasam and oru naaL andha oru naaL are superb. The duet of IR & Kavitha Krishnamoorthy is also good. The junk song of this movie is the one by Kaarthik Raja (enge endhan kaadhali). Kaarthik Raja should be banned from singing. Sandhya is superb in deepangal pesum idhu kaarthigai maasam. I found nothing special in her singing in Iruvar but in this song she is great. SPBCharan also has done a good job in deepangal pesum idhu kaarthigai maasam. He should improve his clarity. ANdam kidukidunga is another great song but this song is sure not a crowd-pleaser. KAGunasekaran (singer/lyricist) voice is powerful. He also has great pronounciation. IR should use voices like these for his folkish songs. KAG's voice was refreshing to hear after hearing too-sophisticated voices all the time.

I also heard Yaathra Mozhi and Guru songs. IR composes differently for Malayalam films than for Tamil films. I think he takes Malayalam films more seriously than Tamil films.

BTW. all these cassettes were imported from India. My father told me he has a tough time finding Guru and Yaathra Mozhi even in Madras.
From: cp (@ 208.206.24.27) on: Tue Sep 16 17:20:00 EDT 1997

PG:
From Pagalavan's ratings , it looks like 5 songs are good in Kadhal RojavE. I too thought of importing the cassette from India. But after seeing your remarks, I am rather confused.

Hey guys, I am planning to get the following cassettes from India:
Devadhai
Kaadhal RojavE
Punniyavathi
Poonjolai
Guru & Yathra Mozhi(where can I get these two in MDS?)
How about songs in Punniyavathi & Poonjolai ? And what are the new releases by IR and how are they rated?
From: pg (@ client-116-18.bellatlantic.net) on: Tue Sep 16 18:09:23 EDT 1997

To cp:

Poonjolai is good. Also Raman Abdullah, Poomani.

Buy Kaadhal RojavE and listen to it. I heard the album twice or thrice but nothing registered on my mind. May be you will like it and may be you won't. I haven't heard Punniyavathi.

My father bought Guru and Yaathra Mozhi from some small shop in T.Nagar. I will post the exact shop location after I speak to my father again.
From: Ravi (@ hope.cs.umass.edu) on: Tue Sep 16 18:15:51 EDT 1997

cp: dEvadhai nichchiyamA kEtkanum. PoonjOlai is so so only. Raman Abdullah is good.
From: IR-fan (@ hexlabpc.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu) on: Tue Sep 16 21:04:28 EDT 1997

Yatra mozhi is a must album for all Ilayaraaja
fans. i got the cassette from Madurai. two duet
songs are real good. both are sung by chitra
and sreekumar. but i haven't got the Guru
cassette yet.
From: Ravy (@ eagle.vapower.com) on: Wed Sep 17 08:13:55 EDT 1997

cp:

For Guru & Yatra mozhi you can try it in AnnaNagar where there is sizable malayalee population.
From: pags (@ shad.cisco.com) on: Wed Sep 17 16:13:10 EDT 1997

PG

I am surprised that you didnot like kaathal rojaavE songs. The very first time I listened to manam pOna pOkkil.. and iLavEnil idu vaigaasi maadham, I started humming them. Likewise, ninaiththa varam kEttu.. By and large, I feel its a very good collection of songs.
From: cp (@ 208.206.24.27) on: Thu Sep 18 11:10:14 EDT 1997

Thanks PG, Ravy, Ravi & IR-Fan(Rex?) for the info. I have Raman Abdullah and I liked 4 songs from the album.( pudhidhai pookum, en veetu jannal, muthamizhE, machan un machiniyai)

PG:
I would be thankful if you can let me know the name of the shop in T.Nagar. My sis is finding it difficult to get all the cassettes at one place.
From: Gopi Santhanam (@ neesgate.neesnet.com) on: Thu Sep 18 11:52:20 EDT 1997

i listened to kadavul .
I second what pg had reviewed earlier.

'enakk oru raasa vendum' by amudha is
very catchy,impressive with excellent
orchestration . It certainly gives the feeling that
IR has a lot of youth left in him.

'kaadhalai ' ,unnikrishnan &sujatha . I believe
that unnikrishanan destroyed this song , the higher octaves not his forte .

'poovarasampoovae', i cannot render a more
apt review than PG for this song

an album that re-affirms that one cannot count IR from the current trend and beatsy music;more
welcome is the fact that IR doesn't loose his
identity.
From: pg (@ igw2.merck.com) on: Thu Sep 18 11:53:21 EDT 1997

To cp :
I will post it on Monday. Grab KadavuL too. It has great songs. Read my review earlier.
From: Gopi (@ neesgate.neesnet.com) on: Thu Sep 18 13:26:48 EDT 1997

correction . my posting should read
'one cannot discount IR from '...

Gopi
From: GOpi (@ neesgate.neesnet.com) on: Thu Sep 18 13:45:06 EDT 1997

Correction . that should read
'one cannot count out IR from'....

Gopi
From: G.T.Rajan (@ proxy-109.iap.bryant.webtv.net) on: Fri Sep 19 21:17:14 EDT 1997

KADHAL ROJAVE:

The entire album is Toooooooooooo... good.
I love all the songs.
My favorite in this album is
"Ninaitha varam kettu, manam padikkum oru pattu".
I listened this song more than 100 times. The new singer SUNITHA's performance is good.
From: pg (@ client-116-4.bellatlantic.net) on: Sat Sep 20 20:31:28 EDT 1997

To all Kaadhal Rojave lovers :

After reading your comments here, I heard the songs over and over again and my conclusion :

Ninaitha varam kettu
iLavenil
and sinna veNNila are the only OK songs.

Rest are no good. As a IR fan I expected much more. Especially after listening to Devathai, Yaathra Mozhi and Guru.
From: Rajah (@ ts25-08.tor.istar.ca) on: Sat Sep 20 22:59:35 EDT 1997

Wuz up to all you Tamilmasi on the net! Especially to all you preety Tamil girls out there. I just want to say that the best song of 1997 is, "MINNAL ORU KODI" from the film, VIP. It is a romantic song and the beats are wicked.
From: G.T. Rajan (@ proxy-118.iap.bryant.webtv.net) on: Sun Sep 21 11:04:14 EDT 1997

To Ra(GU)jah:

Could you just get out of this forum?

Please.

We don't want your.....

We don't want your inmatured discussions and postings.

from
TFM lovers
From: Gopal (@ host-207-53-3-236.atl.bellsouth.net) on: Mon Sep 22 15:33:46 EDT 1997

Guys
Do you get Kathal Rojaave, Kadavul, Devadhai CDs in solo, i mean one movie one cd?? Cos, i tried to buy K Rojave, and it had Nerukku Ner also, and I had to avoid. If all the IR new movies are available with other non-IR movies, how am I going to buy them??
From: Ravi (@ greed.cs.umass.edu) on: Mon Sep 22 18:24:56 EDT 1997

Gopal: This is to test your love for IR. Do you like IR enough to listen to dEva also for his sake? :-). How else are they going to sell movies like that. (Let me say that NN is an exception.. they are probably trying to sell kaadhal rOjaavE in this case. :-).
From: Aravind (@ 202.42.152.9) on: Mon Sep 22 21:57:50 EDT 1997

Ravi

I have not yet listened to kaathal rOjaavE. But by absolute standards NN is horrible. I don't understand how people compare NN with aasai. aasai had real good songs. NN falls much short. manam virumputhE is the only saving grace. Other songs are unhearable.
From: Ravi (@ greed.cs.umass.edu) on: Mon Sep 22 22:55:08 EDT 1997

Aravind: That may be true.. but as was discussed elsewhere songs like avaL varuvaaLa are already big hits. So it makes sense to sell a new movie by clubbing it with "hits".
From: cp (@ 208.206.24.27) on: Tue Sep 23 10:33:17 EDT 1997

PG:
Can you tell me the name of the shop that you bought the latest IR cassettes in MDS?

Ravi:
Even though NErukku NEr was very good according to the masses, I don't think it will appeal to IR's fans. The songs "engenge" and "manam virumbudhE" might have been a hit but I couldn't enjoy the songs even a bit. What do you feel the reason could be ? Because it lacks that quality and perfection of an IR song. ARR is far better when compared to Deva in giving good and hearabler music.(Don't tell me that I have become an ARR fan :-) )
From: Gopal (@ host-207-53-4-222.atl.bellsouth.net) on: Tue Sep 23 11:32:39 EDT 1997

Ravi, If i am a true IR fan, then I should not buy combo cds// becos, according to IR, isai aathmaarthamaanadhu!!!!ManasilayE kettukkalaam! After having listened to IR songs, till now, I think inimE vEru yaarudaya musickayum kEtkka mudiyaathu!! InimE "aathmaarthamaanadhu" enru solli thappividavEndiyadhudhaan!!!

(Kadhal RojavE, solo cd kidaikkumaappa?? PaduthareengalE!!)
From: pg (@ igw2.merck.com) on: Tue Sep 23 13:46:13 EDT 1997

To cp :
I had forgotten to ask my dad where he bought the cassettes. I know I had promised to post the name of the shop this Monday (22 Sep) but now you will have to wait till next Monday (29 Sep). (I call home every Sunday). Hope this is OK.
From: Ilayaraaja (@ dyn07.iacc-t23.ndsu.nodak.edu) on: Tue Sep 23 15:36:23 EDT 1997

Anybody out there can tell me where i can get
India 24 hours cassette in Madras? i remember
some guys discussed about this album sometime
back.

Thanks
From: cp (@ 208.206.24.27) on: Tue Sep 23 16:33:33 EDT 1997

Ilayaraajavin pEril ezhudhubavarukku:
There is a store called "Raag" which is based in California. We got "India 24 hours" CD from this place. We did purchase lot of other tamil CDs from them and indeed they are of good quality. And the delivery of CDs to your home is also quite fast. If you want to take a look at the tamil collections, please take a look at this website. I hope this helps

http://www.webcom.com/raag/tamil
From: Ilayaraaja (@ dyn07.iacc-t23.ndsu.nodak.edu) on: Tue Sep 23 17:02:08 EDT 1997

cp:

Thanks for your information.I really
appreciate.
From: Ravi (@ greed.cs.umass.edu) on: Tue Sep 23 19:17:07 EDT 1997

To the person who posted just before I did: I couldn't find a single shop in MDS/BLR that had India 24hrs. when I had gone to India in July. Infact till IR gave an interview about it in Aug., those guys hadn't even heard of it. Better luck to you, if you plan to search for it in India now.
From: pg (@ igw2.merck.com) on: Mon Sep 29 12:43:13 EDT 1997

To cp :

My father did not remember the name of the shop from where he bought yAthra mozhi and guru. He said he bought in a shop on Rameswaram Street (near Ranganathan St) in T.Nagar. Rameswaram St is not big and probably has only one or two shops selling cassettes. So I think it should be easy to locate the shop. Hope this helps.
From: cp (@ 208.206.24.27) on: Mon Sep 29 13:09:36 EDT 1997

PG:
Thanks for the info. Will try to get that from Rameswaram St. I heard a few songs in Kaadhal RojavE with the help of a friend in TFM page. The songs are 1)Ninaitha varam 2)thottu thottu and 3)ila venil 4)manam pona pOkkil
I liked 1)Ninaitha varam and 2)manam pona pOkkil. The other songs are OK and I would say that others were not upto IR's usual standards. Devadhai is too good compared to Kadhal Rojave.
From: AthiNarayanan (@ ram.com) on: Wed Oct 1 19:11:05 EDT 1997

Hi!
Iam AthiNarayanan and an ardent admirer of IR.Iam thrilled to see a forum like this.He's working on some more new movies like Kannalanae,Poonthotham,Fazil movie,Karthik's 100th movie etc.I read in Kumudham that he's going to compose music for the next Rajini movie.I hope it's true.Whichever movie he composes music for nowadays gets benefitted by his vast experience and as people pointed out,you can't hear the present day meaningless songs composed by ARR & co after hearing immortal IR songs.I think you can record IR songs exclusively on CD instead of buying prerecorded one.

Let Raja's musical mission continue !
From: cp (@ 208.206.24.27) on: Thu Oct 2 09:53:11 EDT 1997

AthiNarayanan:
How do you record selected songs in CD? Is that possible? Is this technology available on US? Please give more info on this.
From: Ravy (@ eagle.vapower.com) on: Thu Oct 2 11:05:50 EDT 1997

I think this has something to do with the Recordable CDs (as against floppies).
From: vasanth (@ dialin42.vision.net.id) on: Fri Oct 3 22:52:16 EDT 1997

I want to know more reviews of latest movie music.
From: NOV (@ 202.184.134.10) on: Sat Oct 4 00:58:42 EDT 1997

Hi Athinarayanan

Welcome to the TFM pages. Do you remember me from the TCP site? Well, as an ardent IR fan, yuo have come to the right place. Here you will find die-hard fans and fanatics of Ilayaraaja - surely to make you feel at home. Stay on and contribute wherever you can.

Vasanth- sorry for the interuption. Ungal aaval yenakku puriyithu!
From: pg (@ client-116-1.bellatlantic.net) on: Sat Oct 4 07:25:13 EDT 1997

Recordable CDs:

Check out Technology and TFM thread.
From: Gokul (@ 204.76.131.140) on: Sun Oct 5 14:47:44 EDT 1997

Kadavul:

This is probably the best IR album in the recent past.

Enakku Oru Rasa Venum -- This has a great playful violin interlude.

Kovilukulle Kuppai Koolam -- The first impression is This is a perfect
song to play in our local Mariamman
Kovil for Thee Midhi and related events.
The Rthym is very catchy and Chitra excels.
But Raja the great magician elevates this
song by a surprising violin/Flute interlude
That is so pleasant.

Poovarasam Poo -- PG wrote this is the song he will be listening
five years from now. I vouch for it. This is
truly a mesmerising song with neat beats
and synth orchestration.
My Favs.. ArunMozgi and Sujatha

Kathalai Marupathu -- This is a WOW song! No wonder this is topping
the charts (Tamil Thirai Valai Info).
This has a kind of complicated beats
and twisting tune as is characteristic of
Raja.Again lots of synth orchestration.

Adhi Sivan Tholil -- This is a surprise after the above two's
sophisticated feel. This stars with udukkai
and a karnatic twist in the pallavi's first
line. Then there is a slight pause and a
beautiful flute piece caresses the song.
Again a glorious flute piece in the second
interlude enhances the song's listenability.

Arivirunda -- I like this song for its keli/kindal
lyrics and Malayasia's tremendous singing.

Raja Rules..!
From: Gopi (@ neesgate.neesnet.com) on: Tue Oct 7 08:51:38 EDT 1997

Gopal ,
H and M has got a CD of the following
combo
'kaadhal rojavae '
'devadhai'
'karuvelam pookal '

a few or maybe more of karuvelam pookal's songs missing.
From: Gopal (@ host-207-53-4-69.atl.bellsouth.net) on: Wed Oct 8 11:35:46 EDT 1997

Thanks Gopi
From: Bhaskar (@ dutyfree.proxy.lucent.com) on: Wed Oct 8 16:06:20 EDT 1997

Gokul:

Kadavul CD USA la enga kidaikkum ?
From: Gokul (@ 204.76.131.140) on: Wed Oct 8 17:45:37 EDT 1997

Bhaskar:

I had trouble getting the KadavuL CD for a long
time. My local Indian Shop did not know about
it. But later after a month he could get it for
me from TX.

I could get KadavuL /VIP combo.

I would have preferred Kadhal Rojave or
Raman Abdullah though.

I think it is available at
http://www.mail-bag.com
http://www.handm.com

Check them out.
From: pg (@ client-116-21.bellatlantic.net) on: Wed Oct 8 22:02:55 EDT 1997

I bought KadavuL (with VIP) and another movie in NJ.

No reviews of Surya Vamsam yet ! I saw the movie (OK). There was a song I liked in the movie : natchathira jannalil vAnam etti pArkudhu siragai virithu paRappOm
From: Aravind (@ 202.42.152.9) on: Thu Oct 9 03:12:37 EDT 1997

I have heard four songs from sooryavamsam so far. All on SunTV. I list them in my order of preference.

salakku salakku - Arunmozhi & ??? - Beautiful song. nalla mild dappanguththu. Catchy tune and dance sequence. Enjoyable

kaathalaa - Swarnalatha?? & Hariharan - Nice song. SARajkumar sema beats pOttirukkaar.

natchaththira jannalil - Mano & ??? - OK song. Not much of noise.

rOsaappu - ??? - The biggest hit in the movie. azuthu vadiyum song. Resembles 'kuyilE kuyilE' of aaN paavam. I personally did not like this song. Possibly because I have seen this thousand times on SunTV.

If you get some other very good album alongwith sooryavamsam, you can go ahead. It will not be a waste of money.
From: Rajaraman (@ 192.122.136.148) on: Thu Oct 9 04:40:04 EDT 1997

Natchathira jannalil (mano & swarnalatha) - cute song. (best in this
movie)
kaathalaa kaathalaa(hariharan,swarnalatha) - ok.
chalakku chalakku(arunmozhi & sujata?) - for the masses. definitely
better than deva hits.
rosaappu chinna rosaappu(hariharan; jayachandran for pathos)
- i'm still wondering what made this song the biggest hit ..
(Hari's version goes like... "ombhera chollum rosaappu")
From: Gopi Santhanam (@ neesgate.neesnet.com) on: Mon Oct 20 13:36:55 EDT 1997

Nannum Oru Indian - Ilayaraja

1. chittukkuruvi kurivi - Mano & Janaki
One wouldn't listen to this for more than a 3 seconds
2 .yaemaradhae yaematra - Surendar ,Selvakumar
and Chorus
Please depress the 'FF' button
3. Deepavali innikki - SPB Chitra Arunmozhi &chorus
I really can't comprehend why this song requires such proven singers.
4. priya priya - unnikrishnan &pavadharani
Saving grace . A nice song but Unnikrishnan strives hard to take away the sweet melody by blabbering (priya Priya ) at every charanam succeeding in making the
song look stale( not his fault obviously)
4 .Chinna chinna - IR & chorus
so so
5 .Chengal pattu chinna chittu
stupid song
From: AthiNarayanan S (@ ram.com) on: Tue Oct 21 16:06:10 EDT 1997

Can you give more details of this movie "Naanum oru Indian"? Iam unable to belive just 1 song in this movie is upto Raja's usual stds.Especially so becos,in 1997 lots of good songs seem to have come in his music.
From: TRV (@ tvenkata.qualcomm.com) on: Tue Oct 21 17:48:42 EDT 1997

Ilaiyaraja movies:
I heard Raman Abdullah in CD. Sounds nice
and melodious. Reminds one of 80s Ilaiyaraja.
My personal favorite right now is "En veetu
jannal" from this movie. Very rustic tune.
"Muthamizhe ..." reminds me of "Kalyaana thenilaa"

I listened to "Poonjolai". I liked the
Ilaiyaraja-like songs more than the Gangai Amaren
like songs (you know what I'm saying). My
personal favorite is "Un perai ketaale!" though
I'm sure "Gaana kuyile" will be a big favorite
with lots of Ilaiyaraja fans.

I heard Devadhai too. My favorite is
"Oru naal andha oru naal". "Enge en kaadhali"
was bad -- especially the singing. I liked
the song "Andam kidukidunga" for the period it
portrays, but why does the narration at times
sound like the story is being told to kids? In
the movie, the song is being sung to a mature
audience right? Dheepangal pesum and naal thorum
have Ilaiyaraja touch.

Rahman:
I heard Vande Maataram. I thought that the
main song "Thai manne vanakkam" was good. It has
very contemporary sounds. I though "tauba, tauba"
was a bit weak in the music. In general I didn't
think the album was as bad as some people here
felt.
From: Srivas (@ willow.csl.sri.com) on: Tue Oct 21 20:26:59 EDT 1997

Has anyone in this forum heard the songs of the
yet-to-be released movie PooChchoodava? I am
interested in buying a CD that has this movie and
another that I like. The MD for the movie is Sirpi, I believe. I don't believe I have heard
his music before. What are some of his other good
musical scores?

- Srivas
From: Gokul (@ 204.76.131.140) on: Tue Oct 21 20:43:23 EDT 1997

Srinivas

How come you dont know about Sirpi?

Did you not see the blockbuster movie ULLathai ALLi Tha?

He Scored .. I am sorry .. Copied (is the correct
word to use) music for ULLathaiALLi Thaa and
some.

If I were you , I would avoid his movies like
plague.

He is bankrupt on creativity and an active member
"Copy Adithu Pozhaikkum Music Directors" (headed
by The Great Deva) .
From: Aravind (@ 202.42.152.9) on: Tue Oct 21 22:30:33 EDT 1997

Gokul

Sirpi has given a new dimension to TFM. Deva copies different songs from different movies and incorporates them into his songs. Whereas Sirpi recycles a single song in numerous forms. His 'azagiya lailA' (which itself is a blatant copy) is now appearing in different forms in all his movies.

The latest torture on TFM is, Sirpi has ventured into singing also. These guys are trying their best to elevate ARR's standard.
From: MSK (@ dhcp-877019741.qualcomm.com) on: Wed Oct 22 20:55:43 EDT 1997

Listened to "Oru Naal" by S.J in Devadhai. hats off to IR and SJ. I am sure even today that no one else could have done a better job than SJ - What a voice !!!
Also heard "En Veetu Jannal " -in Raman Adullah- a great song .looks like IR is serious abt staging a come back. Good for TFM .
From: Aravind (@ 202.42.152.9) on: Wed Oct 22 23:39:54 EDT 1997

'sOniyA soniyA sokka vaikkum sOniyA
kAthalil nI entha vagai kURu'

This is the latest hit in SG. From 'ratchakan'. Vairamuthuvin kiRukkalgaLai (bordering around vulgarity, needless to say), Udit Narayanan uLaRa, Hariniyum, Unnikrishnanum pAdugiRArgaL.

The highlight is, ARR has done a real good job. Though the beats are from 'hawA hawA', the end product is defenitely feet tapping. Will take TN by strom. aval for ARR fans. Enjoyable song!!
From: Gopi (@ neesgate.neesnet.com) on: Thu Oct 23 09:22:26 EDT 1997

Athinarayanan,

Naanum Oru Indian ,
Suresh - from 'panneer pushpangal'
Oorvasi
Direction by visuvakumar.

that is all i know and i am reproducing this
from the cassette.
From: t.madhan raghavan (@ 202.41.117.3) on: Thu Oct 23 10:16:49 EDT 1997

to Mr.Adhinarayanan and other ardent fans of Illayaraaja, my name is madhan , pursuing my Ph.D at the dept.of microbiology, Goa University- I sort of stumbled upon this site while surfing the net.I too am a great fanatic of Maestro. Please include me in your forum too - of the current crop of raaja's releases, "guru" is the BEST - unbelievable sensational album. raaja is also scoring for Kamal Hassan,Prabhu Deva starrer,"Kaadhala Kaadhala" -knowing very well Kamal _ Maestro combination has always given incredible music, even this album should be great.
please include me in this site as well

Madhanfrom Goa

e-mailaddress : student@unigoa.ernet.in
From: T.MADHAN RAGHAVAN (@ 202.41.117.3) on: Thu Oct 23 10:30:12 EDT 1997

ABout "Guru" - the first song,"guru charanam" by chorus starts with a monotonous rhytmic beat,which flows throughout the song,the interludes bear the class of maestro and the charanam forays into a virtual play of pitches. The second interlude is punctuated with a solo violin a trademark of raaja.

second song - "deva sangeedham", with a battle background has a terrific sorrowful,poignant,melancholic effect against the backdrop of a war.

third song , a solo by chitra,i think is based on raga"amruthavarshini" is amrut indeed.

fourth song, kind of tribal song begins with a hitherto unheard of beat and culminates into a scintillating pallavi -to note, the shift in the tune in the second half.The way the song ends is like the fall of a waterfront over the Niagara.

last song, "arunagirina" by jesudoss & chorus is the ultimate piece in the album - the highlight being the crescendo of music that repeats in orchestration.

FRIENDS, THIS ALBUM IS TYPICAL ILLAYARAAJA VINTAGE STUFF.DON'T MISS IT.

MADHAN,GOA.
From: AthiNarayanan (@ ram.com) on: Thu Oct 23 16:03:44 EDT 1997

Mr.Madhan,

Keep up the good work.I think you're in Goa and so must be getting to know about the latest Raja releases.Please keep us updated.And I think this is a open forum.Anybody is welcome to contribute.I hope all of us would agree.

And I saw ur contributions in other threads about Marudhanayagam and Raja's next big budget movie.Continue ur good work.

Iam happy to see lots of Raja releases coming this year becos 1996 saw very few of his releases and 1997 has been a good year.Let's hope to hear lot more great music from him.I feel music from him nowadays means divine experience for the innumerable fans like us.And his symphony has been released in India recently(Oct 3rd week) it looks like.

Mr.Madan you could probably give us a review of this long expected masterpiece.

BTW,Iam in US but Raja keeps me feel at home with his countless melodies.

Happy Deepavali to all of you !
From: MPR (@ dyn07.iacc-t23.ndsu.nodak.edu) on: Thu Oct 23 18:19:42 EDT 1997

Athinarayan:

Are you sure Ilayaraaja's symphony has been released?

God, waiting for this composition for years. anybody can verify this info, please?
From: Gokul (@ 204.76.131.140) on: Thu Oct 23 19:24:18 EDT 1997

WHAT!!!!

Is the Symphony really Out?

Kumar (Bangalore...)

Could you check this please?
From: Gopal (@ host-207-53-3-126.atl.bellsouth.net) on: Thu Oct 23 20:51:36 EDT 1997

Idhukku dhaan chat vEnumnu sollaradhu! Tensionla
onnumE puriyale. Symphony vandhirucha?
Sariya sollungappa! Gokul, neenga oru nadai
India poivandhurungalEn!!
From: Ravi (@ greed.cs.umass.edu) on: Fri Oct 24 03:24:47 EDT 1997

Please some one verify this piece of news.. It sounds too good to be true. aathi narayan ippadi raathiri thookkaththa keduthutteengaLE?
From: pg (@ igw3.merck.com) on: Fri Oct 24 09:42:35 EDT 1997

Hi AthiNarayanan,

I just hope what you wrote about the symphony is true. I am going to India in 15 days, so do you have any idea where I can buy the cassette or CD ?
From: T.MADHAN RAGHAVAN (@ 202.41.117.3) on: Fri Oct 24 10:06:00 EDT 1997

HI, Mr.Adhi and other raaja fans - WHAT IS THIS ABOUT RAAJA'S SYMPHONY HAVING BEEN RELEASED ?!!!!

I DO NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS, BUT I AM GOING TO BANGALORE & MADRAS THIS DIWALI- I WILL LET YOU KNOW OF THE SYMPHONY, IF AT ALL IT HAS BEEN RELEASED.MY GOODNESS, IF IT HAS REALLY BEEN RELEASED, I WOULD SEND A BAGFUL OF SUGAR TO ADHI TO DUMP IT IN HIS MOUTH FOR HAVING LET US KNOW OF THIS WONDERFUL,ECSTATIC PIECE OF NEWS.

MADHAN, FROM GOA.
From: AthiNarayanan (@ ram.com) on: Fri Oct 24 10:14:56 EDT 1997

All,

I heard about this symphony release from another thread in this forum.It's in the archives.Iam appending it below.

From: R.BALAJI (@ 129.130.140.93) on: Tue Oct 21 22:35:31 EDT 1997

Ilayaraja the great has at last released the
symphony few days back that is oct 3rd week in madras.Hope this will end all the nasty talks on
him.

Already people have requested Balaji to confirm the news.Somebody in india can definitely do that.
From: AthiNarayanan (@ ram.com) on: Fri Oct 24 10:17:19 EDT 1997

All,

I heard about this symphony release from another thread in this forum.It's in the archives.Iam appending it below.

From: R.BALAJI (@ 129.130.140.93) on: Tue Oct 21 22:35:31 EDT 1997

Ilayaraja the great has at last released the
symphony few days back that is oct 3rd week in madras.Hope this will end all the nasty talks on
him.

Already people have requested Balaji to confirm the news.Somebody in india can definitely do that.
From: aruLarasan (@ newton.umsl.edu) on: Fri Oct 24 11:00:58 EDT 1997

I am waiting for word from madras. I will post it this weekend. Please
hold your breath till then.

anbudan
aruLarasan
From: Gopal (@ host-207-53-5-173.atl.bellsouth.net) on: Fri Oct 24 14:10:13 EDT 1997

i spoke to my folks in Madras on 24oct/8.45pm indian st.time. They have no idea!!(Kind of IR?Who? reply)
From: Ravi (@ greed.cs.umass.edu) on: Sun Oct 26 02:52:48 EST 1997

I spoke to my folks back home and asked them to verify. No cassette shop has heard of it and there is no buzz in the papers/magazie also. I guess this is another rumour. sigh... :(
From: Shankar Ramanathan (@ webgate3.mot.com) on: Mon Oct 27 05:50:45 EST 1997

hi junta,
Thrilled to see a forum like this.I am shankar,a student from BITS,Pilani.Please accept me as a member of this IR fan club (at last I could find some sensible people around).Currently I am in Bangalore.IR's SYMPHONY has NOT been released here.Will post here if released.

Mr padmanabhan Ganesan,
Please tell me if india 24 hours has released in india.mail me at
shankarr@bigfoot.com
--shankar
From: AthiNarayanan (@ ram.com) on: Mon Oct 27 10:18:18 EST 1997

Shankar,

Happy to get a mail from B'lore where I was there for 2.5 yrs from Jun 1994-Jan 1997.Are you working with MIEL there? Anyway welcome to this discussion forum.Give us more details of IR's kannada releases.Iam little disappointed to know that symphony hasn't been released but Iam optimistic that it will get released soon.

Read the other threads like IR's Background music.You'll definitely enjoy.
From: Gopal (@ host-207-53-3-213.atl.bellsouth.net) on: Mon Oct 27 11:14:56 EST 1997

Welcome Shankar Ramanathan
Have a nice time here in newtfmpage
From: kalyanam Kannan (@ btr0xu.rz.uni-bayreuth.de) on: Mon Oct 27 13:54:18 EST 1997

Hello
IR's fans. Iam a research fellow from germany.and I want to enter this group.Really I ejoyed surfing this classics
kannan
From: Gopal (@ host-207-53-0-115.atl.bellsouth.net) on: Tue Oct 28 00:49:36 EST 1997

Welcome Kalyanam

As we have a Kannan from US, select another tag with your name to avoid confusion.
have a nice time
From: S.T. Srinivasan (@ 123.icrisat.cgiar.org) on: Wed Oct 29 04:57:57 EST 1997

Dear Friends,

I am S.T.Srinivasan (Srini) from Hyderabad, India.
I have the facility to record songs and put it
on net for those who reside abroad. But I like
to put it in streaming audio mode. I checked in
www.real.com and www.realaudio.com for encoding
and publishing the .AU files but not successful.
I am a great fan of IR and has latest of his songs. If you let me know some way of doing this,
I can upload them in a free server US.

Thanks and Regards

WISH YOU ALL A VERY VERY HAPPY DEEPAVALI.
(Neengal sirithal deepavalithan...!)

Srini
From: pg (@ igw3.merck.com) on: Wed Oct 29 08:45:31 EST 1997

Hello STSrinivasan,
Is this ST from BITS, Pilani ? (1986-91)
From: MPR (@ dyn07.iacc-t23.ndsu.nodak.edu) on: Wed Oct 29 11:38:50 EST 1997

To Srini:

I've sent to you a mail regarding new songs. If you don't get that mail, please reply me to my email address.

emmpeeaar@hotmail.com

Thanks,
MPR
From: Gopal (@ host-207-53-2-124.atl.bellsouth.net) on: Fri Oct 31 20:36:27 EST 1997

The Hindu's review of tfm "Vasuki"
"It is sad, that even the music by Ilayaraja disappoints you. "
From: VIJAY (@ 129.252.29.214) on: Sat Nov 1 12:57:08 EST 1997

hi guys,
i would like to join your group as your discussion is mainly aboiut IR's music and i have been listening to this kind of music for the past
15 years and am myself an ardent fan .
From: vijay (@ 129.252.29.214) on: Sat Nov 1 13:02:54 EST 1997

hi guys,
i have been listening to the music about which u are talking for thge past 15 years and i would like to join the chat.
From: vijay (@ 129.252.29.214) on: Sat Nov 1 13:07:56 EST 1997

hi,
for deva bashers here is some good news:
according to an article i think on the rediff deva has changed from imitations to hits and they given 'aasai' as an example.the foll 2 songs are
perfect lifts:
1.meenamma- background music from phil collin's "mama"
2.thilothamma-copied exactly from an yemen singer.her name i think is ozha or ozra.

and deva still continues to do this.i will give some more examples next time.
From: Gopal (@ host-207-53-2-115.atl.bellsouth.net) on: Sat Nov 1 14:26:16 EST 1997

Welcome Vijay
have a nice time at newtfmpage
From: MPR (@ dyn07.iacc-t23.ndsu.nodak.edu) on: Sat Nov 1 22:21:42 EST 1997

Thilothamma - copied from Ofra Haza's album (don't remember the name).
From: Swaminathan (@ 129.107.61.24) on: Sun Nov 2 01:19:24 EST 1997

Hai to everyone,
My name is Swaminathan, doing my MS at the
Univ of Texas. I'd like to join your club and forum of discussion on IR. Looking forward for a
nice time with you all...

Love,
Swami.

PS:Visit tiptop site and hear the songs of
GRAHAN (hindi). Music is by Karthikraja.
From: vijay (@ 3b37mac1.che.sc.edu) on: Sun Nov 2 01:23:06 EST 1997

hi,
first of all thanx to gopal for welcoming me.I have made my debut with a rather hot issue. as u can see deva has improved his standards of copying.thanks MPR for her name.my brother says that even akila akila is a copy from a bob marley song.there is no point in even comparing him with the likes of IR so i do not understand why there are arguments like raja vs deva or raja vs AR too.
ARR is just 5 years old and has not acheived even 10% of what IR has .so maybe after another 10 or 15 years if rahman still survives,we can think of
arguments.
vijay
From: vijay (@ 3b37mac1.che.sc.edu) on: Sun Nov 2 01:26:18 EST 1997

hai swami,
are u there?what do u think of IR?
vijay
From: R.BALAJI (@ 129.130.140.54) on: Sun Nov 2 15:02:29 EST 1997

Hi guys,
It was me who told that Symphony was released.Actually one of my friend in madras told
me about that.I am also a ardent fan of IR.I have so far 247 audio cassettes and 13 CD's
of pure IR music.I am very sorry i should have confirmed it and posted it in TFM.I am
trying my best to get the news.I will let you know ASAP.I went thru all news papers at that
time but couldn't find the news.WAs it a really a rumor?
I sincerely apologize if the news was a rumor.
Have you all heard 'ULLASAM'-Karthik raja's music.It is absolutely stupendous.But in some places
i think he must have flicked some bits elsewhere.
From: shankar (@ webgate4.mot.com) on: Mon Nov 3 05:23:22 EST 1997

vijay,
Akila akila is a 'cut-and-paste' from "buffullo soldier" (Bob Marley).
I listened to the songs of 'ratchagan'(*ing nagarjuna and sushmita sen ,music-ARR).Only one song is good (soniya..)the rest sub-standard.
to deva bashers,
manam virumbude (naerukku naer) - BG L subramanian's (violin)piece.Deva has done a "creative" work here .He presents the same piece using diff instruments!!!(the song ,a thyagaraja keerthanai-i'm not sure).
From: veena. (@ pc12.stokmarknes.vgs.no) on: Mon Nov 3 09:20:36 EST 1997

I LIKE YOU
From: Srikanth (@ dutyfree.proxy.lucent.com) on: Mon Nov 3 11:26:28 EST 1997

Music Lovers,
I have been reading articles on TFM for the past three months and I found many articles criticizing ARR - obviously by IR fans. I like ARR now and used to like IR as equally till few years back. Still I have a great respect for IR. He is a genius - no doubt about it and nobody can come close to him. This doesn't mean that ARR is not talented. Right now, he is the only talented MD. The music has changed (became fast bla bla...), so their effect vanishes after sometime.

Any article you see, it finally ends in a comparison between ARR and IR. Since there are more critisisms against ARR by IR fans, it appears that:
1. they can't assimilate the fame of ARR. So they desparately want to show him low by constantly criticizing
2. IR is not great compated to ARR -- this is what that fears me being a fan of IR.

What I would like to say to IR fans is stop critisizing ARR because of the second point. It's a universal fact that IR is great. IR doesn't need criticisms against other MDs inorder to prove himslef the best....

--srikanth
From: AthiNarayanan (@ ram.com) on: Mon Nov 3 14:55:45 EST 1997

Swami,

Where did you find information about Grahaan? Pl give us the exact web addr.

Mr.Srikanth, Please go to the threads glorifying ARR's music where people unnecessarily criticize IR's music which is ridiculous and compared to that,people in threads about IR very rarely mention about ARR.
From: Rajaraman (@ 192.122.135.224) on: Mon Nov 3 20:29:27 EST 1997

TIPTOP site is at

http://www.geocities.com/EnchantedForest/6295/tiptop.html
From: Amar (@ worf.qntm.com) on: Tue Nov 4 10:27:36 EST 1997

Hi:

"Ullasam" by Karthikraja is good indeed, but I also do have the feeling that he might have flicked some pieces here and there one for sure, is the song "Veesum Kaatrukku Poovai Theriyaathaa" by Unnikrishna( a beautiful song ) was a direct lift of the Grandma song from "Pochahantas".
Karthikraja, I think, is very talented and I wonder why he would also lift tunes from popular western music!!! Why can't he be original like his father and bring out best original tunes to fit modern times, if need be, or even follow his father's steps, why not???
From: shankar (@ webgate3.mot.com) on: Wed Nov 5 08:18:07 EST 1997

Mr srikanth,
We never said ARR is not talented.Ofcourse he is! He is talented in selecting good music pieces and clubbing them to give one great piece!! Who else in TFM has done this kind of a service to music? We TFM listeners can listen to 'like a virgin '(madonna),and song from sister act and bunyon at the same time in "thillana thillana".Have any other MDs done such a service (even deva couldn't).I was lucky to hear
a good mixture of "don't worry be happy " and "kilele kilele" (pAkAdhe ,pAkAdhe-gentleman).Indeed ARR is talented!!!
like U I am also an ARR fan...
From: Gopal (@ host-207-53-6-54.atl.bellsouth.net) on: Wed Nov 5 12:19:55 EST 1997

Kannungala
Naanga adichikittu mudinjappuram another generation adichikka aaramabichi irukkeengO! Good
Annal ipdi engEyo theriyaadha amukkunnu discuss panna eppadi? Thread onnu aarambichi pudhu pudhu vaana vEdikai kaambingo!! Come on start!!
From: AthiNarayanan (@ ram.com) on: Wed Nov 5 13:00:34 EST 1997

Excellent shankar,continue the good work.I doubt whether any of the ARR's compositions will be original.All will be like this, a mix of 2,3 western songs otherwise a rehash of his old song which he will be confident people would have forgotten.And the appalling fact is the guy has won 2 national awards and that just shows the levels to which the standard of the national awards deciding factor has fallen to.Especially the songs from his second national award winning film Minsara Kanavukal reminds you of his earlier composition in all aspects(tune,instruments used etc) and you need not even find out their western source(s) and I wonder how a national award can be given for that.I think some influential hand is deciding all this.Like somebody wrote,Kamalhassan's makeup man deserved the national award for Indian more than Kamal.I think the 1997 National awards look like laughing stock except for a few categories like Best actress for Tabu,Best special effects for somebody for Indian etc.

I didn't mean to offend any ARR fan but this is my honest opinion.
From: vijay (@ cir_89.engr.sc.edu) on: Thu Nov 6 02:02:08 EST 1997

hi guys,
bad news for IR fans.kaadhala kaadhala music is by karthik raja and he has even dropped a bombshell by saying that he composed the trailer music for marudanaayagam and when asked about the music for the entire film he has remained silent.
looks like IR is missing a lot of buses.
varuthathudan
vijay
From: shankar (@ webgate3.mot.com) on: Thu Nov 6 03:02:47 EST 1997

vijay,
Please elaborate on what you have given here.Where did U get this info from?
From: SUNNY (@ howrah.cs.berkeley.edu) on: Thu Nov 6 04:08:54 EST 1997

To Athinarayan and Shankar:

Sometimes try APRRECIATING ARR's music.
The point of these discussions is not to decide who is good or who is bad, or who copies or who does not.
Let's be in good spirit here, OK?
Good.

---A fan of ARR and IR.
From: Srikanth (@ dutyfree.proxy.lucent.com) on: Thu Nov 6 09:33:01 EST 1997

IR Fans,

Can anyone let me know the Telugu versions of latest IR albums. One of my friend is going to Hyd. I want to get those cassettes/CDs. Please let me know ASAP.

thanks,
srikanth
From: T.MADHAN RAGHAVAN (@ 202.41.117.70) on: Thu Nov 6 09:49:07 EST 1997

This is for the benefit of Mr.Srikanth and other likeminded people:

Music is to the human mind at the face value, an abstract concept - because the concept of linking music with spirituality and so on and then claiming that this piece of music is superior to the other would be too subjective an issue to delve upon - but listen to two different songs composed for the same situation - early morning , a young girl describes Nature - " PUTHHTHAM PUDHU KAALAI " by IR and " MARGAZHIPOOVE" by ARR - tell me how many of even ARR's fans listen to Maarghazhi poove, now ? whereas " Puthham pudhu kaalai" is unanimously declared an enchanting number. Why? Appreciation of music is not like that of other sensory pleasures like smell, sex etc.,- when the sound waves vibrate the ear drums and then are passed via the cochlea to the brain thru the auditory nerves, the brain interprets the sound as either 'Music' or ' apaswaram' - this again may be subjective, but then, when a particular sound resounds within you for a long, long period, then what explanation can one give for such an event?

And when somebody like IR manages to churn out quality music day in and day out non-stop, one has to feel a sense of speechless wonder and admiration.

Let me narrate an event for you - I was in Calcutta in 1996 for my M.Sc dissertation work - Bengalis are very well known for their leaning towards the arts - I was taken by surprise when the mention of Ilayaraja provoked a sense of respect and awe from them - all for just one song which they have heard - " SURMAI AKKIYON MEN" from Sadma, the Hindi version of " KANNAE KALAIMANE" - that IR's haunting creative output has transcended language
barriers is best illustrated by this .

The conclusion - Illayaraaja is a phenomenon that has happened to us and is happening to us - NO WAY CAN ANYBODY ELSE BE COMPARED TO HIM !!
From: T.MADHAN RAGHAVAN (@ 202.41.117.70) on: Thu Nov 6 09:59:13 EST 1997

This is for the benefit of Mr.Srikanth and other likeminded people:

Music is to the human mind at the face value, an abstract concept - because the concept of linking music with spirituality and so on and then claiming that this piece of music is superior to the other would be too subjective an issue to delve upon - but listen to two different songs composed for the same situation - early morning , a young girl describes Nature - " PUTHHTHAM PUDHU KAALAI " by IR and " MARGAZHIPOOVE" by ARR - tell me how many of even ARR's fans listen to Maarghazhi poove, now ? whereas " Puthham pudhu kaalai" is unanimously declared an enchanting number. Why? Appreciation of music is not like that of other sensory pleasures like smell, sex etc.,- when the sound waves vibrate the ear drums and then are passed via the cochlea to the brain thru the auditory nerves, the brain interprets the sound as either 'Music' or ' apaswaram' - this again may be subjective, but then, when a particular sound resounds within you for a long, long period, then what explanation can one give for such an event?

And when somebody like IR manages to churn out quality music day in and day out non-stop, one has to feel a sense of speechless wonder and admiration.

Let me narrate an event for you - I was in Calcutta in 1996 for my M.Sc dissertation work - Bengalis are very well known for their leaning towards the arts - I was taken by surprise when the mention of Ilayaraja provoked a sense of respect and awe from them - all for just one song which they have heard - " SURMAI AKKIYON MEN" from Sadma, the Hindi version of " KANNAE KALAIMANE" - that IR's haunting creative output has transcended language
barriers is best illustrated by this .

The conclusion - Illayaraaja is a phenomenon that has happened to us and is happening to us - NO WAY CAN ANYBODY ELSE BE COMPARED TO HIM !!
From: Srikanth (@ dutyfree.proxy.lucent.com) on: Thu Nov 6 13:37:21 EST 1997

Mr. Madhavan,

Thanks for the info. I too am a fan of IR. If you read wht I have wrote earlier is that you don't have to show other people low inorder to project you or somebody you like to be great...To this context, I am not comparing ARR or IR. Nobody can dethrone the position or respect IR has got in the minds of true music lovers -- everybody will agree this. If you are a good music lover, you SHOULD be able to appreciate the good in all music directors, otherwise you are just of fan of somebody and not a true music lover.

Music is a phenomenon and has no language barriers. I listen to Tamil songs though I don't understand them. I like the musical aspect of it. I am not saying that lyrics doesn't have value. So no more discussion of that aspect.

If you keep on commenting other MDs as people are doing, it would appear as if they have no other menas of proving their favorite to be great...that's what I said, one doesn't have to show ARR or others low to project IR as great. He is great....this doen't mean that others are not great!!!

I agree what Sunny has said...

--srikanth
From: MPR (@ dyn07.iacc-t23.ndsu.nodak.edu) on: Thu Nov 6 19:49:36 EST 1997

shankar:

In latest Ananta vikatan, there is a thunukku about maruthanayagam trailer. here is the pointer.

http://www.vikatan.com/2_11_97/vtheatre.htm

MPR
From: Gokul (@ p1.echostar.com) on: Thu Nov 6 20:24:36 EST 1997

Guys..

This thread is meant for Reviewing New Albums only..

Please open a new thread for the never ending
IR/ARR comparison..
From: vijay (@ 3b37mac1.che.sc.edu) on: Fri Nov 7 00:20:42 EST 1997

hi,
pl. guys tell mewhere i can listen to new IR songs are any new tamil songs.forget the minnoviyam site and indiadirect.being the TFM page i think we should add more links to audio files.anyway here is one site that has been left out in the TFM links.
neetham namachivayam's homepage
www.yesic.com/~neethan .u might have to navigate for a while after reaching this address.pl be patient.a good no. of songs are there.
vijay
From: vijay (@ 3b37mac1.che.sc.edu) on: Fri Nov 7 00:27:19 EST 1997

music review of grahan
karhik raja has tried hard to be different from arr and other MD's.the tunes are slightly complicated and are not exactly hummable.only the first 2 or 3 lines in all songs catch u instantly.
asha bhonsle has been used extensively.
my frank opinion is arr's debut was much better.the songs look like they are original and that if true can be appreciated.i would not definitely say that the music is mind blowing or something like that.
vijay
From: vijay (@ 3b37mac1.che.sc.edu) on: Fri Nov 7 00:59:10 EST 1997

hi,
in neethan's site which i just mentioned listen to the song shabba shabba from ottam(what a name?)
this is a direct remake from hindi but still the song is very catchy having a good dose of aberi in it.
From: shankar (@ webgate4.mot.com) on: Fri Nov 7 01:24:39 EST 1997

Sorry for the digression.Thalaivarai ARR oda compare panninavudane enakku raththam kodhichudu! konjam unarchivasa pattuttEn!!.mannikkavum.
From: shankar (@ webgate4.mot.com) on: Fri Nov 7 01:24:51 EST 1997

Sorry for the digression.Thalaivarai ARR oda compare panninavudane enakku raththam kodhichudu! konjam unarchivasa pattuttEn!!.manniththarulga.
From: vijay (@ 129.252.29.214) on: Sat Nov 8 17:05:05 EST 1997

hi,
test
vijay
From: NOV (@ 202.184.134.10) on: Mon Nov 10 03:36:07 EST 1997

After the storm, shall we now return to music reviews? :-)))

I bought Ratchakan cassette a couple of days ago, but was not overly impressed. As in most ARR songs, I need to hear them many times before I can form a fair opinion. However, here is a preliminary review:

1. Soniya Soniya - A fast number with intermitent repetitions of the words "love attack."
Performed by Udith Narayanan, Unnikrishnan & Harini
Lyrics by Vairamuthu

2. Bombay, Madras, Delhi - Another fast number
Performed by Gopal & Kavitha Poudwal
Lyrics by Vaali

3. Chandiranei thottathu yaar - a pleasing slow tune - will probably become as popular as Vennilavey, vennilavey
Performed by Hariharan & Sujatha
Lyrics by Vairamuthu

4. Lucky, Lucky - I haven't listened to it enough times yet! ;-)
Performed by SP Bala, Sukvinder Singh & Swarnalatha
Lyrics by Vairamuthu

5. Nenjey nenjey - I haven't listened to it enough times yet! ;-)
Performed by KJ Jesudass & Sadhana Sargam
Lyrics by Vairamuthu

6. Kaiyil mithakkum - I haven't listened to it enough times yet! ;-)
Performed by Shreeni
Lyrics by Vairamuthu

7. Poagum vazhiyellaam - I haven't listened to it enough times yet! ;-)
Performed by Chitra
Lyrics by Vairamuthu

8. Mercury pookal - A fast number with intermitent repetitions of the words "we want power, veindum veindum veindum power." The only song that caused an immediate impact - like Pettai rap and Hello doctor (not the music but the instant impact!)
Performed by Anuphama & Swarnalatha
Lyrics by Vaali
From: kee (@ iph-36-11.tm.net.my) on: Fri Nov 14 12:34:32 EST 1997

Ratchagan- Best soundtrack of 1997!
From: NOV (@ 202.184.134.10) on: Fri Nov 14 22:06:41 EST 1997

Kee - your statement is NOT a review but an opinion!
From: swamy (@ synergy.nus.edu.sg) on: Sat Nov 15 00:54:19 EST 1997

I feel that it is an average album.
This is my opinion!
From: RAJAN (@ proxy-112.iap.bryant.webtv.net) on: Sat Nov 15 19:30:17 EST 1997

How is IR's new film album
"Chinna ramasamy Periya ramasamy" by R.V.Udaykumar
and
"Kathalukku Mariyaathai" by Fazhil ?

Both of them was released last week.
From: RAJAN (@ proxy-112.iap.bryant.webtv.net) on: Sat Nov 15 19:31:02 EST 1997

How is IR's new film album
"Chinna ramasamy Periya ramasamy" by R.V.Udaykumar
and
"Kathalukku Mariyaathai" by Fazhil ?

Both of them was released three days back.
From: Arun (@ internet1.ford.com) on: Mon Nov 17 11:18:31 EST 1997

I just got Rakshagan, this weekend. As an album it reminded me of Kaadhalan.

For the kind of movie as should be expected, it has wide variety, from instant chart-buster (Soniya..Soniya, has topped charts already) like Mukkala to haunting melodies (Nenje..Nenje.. and Kaiyil Midhakkum) like Ennavale to be talked about for years to come and pleasing songs in between (Chandiranai and Pogum Vazhi).

If you like ARR's music you will not be disappointed. If you don't, you won't be surprised either. It should be surprise to no one again, it is going to be another Mega-Hit.

- Arun.
From: Mukundan Ranganathan (@ internet-gw1.hea.com) on: Mon Nov 17 17:10:03 EST 1997

Hi Guys,

Amidst all this talk of new songs I want to discuss about "Soniya Soniya". We have so many good singers in TFM - (Mukkala sung by Mano in a different voice for eg.). Does addition of Udit Narayan to TFM improve the quality ?. Is it a prerequisite that to give a catchy tune there should be an utter degradation of Tamil pronunciation associated with the song ?

I did not like this aspect in the song KuluValile" too. To me Udit Narayan's voice does not sound least bit melodious.

Any opinions welcome !
From: TRV (@ tvenkata.qualcomm.com) on: Mon Nov 17 18:53:05 EST 1997

Hi everybody, posting about a song from "Ullaasam"
by Karthik Raja. This movie was released this
year, so its quite recent and thereby appropriate
to post here, I assume. Anyway, the song is
"Veesum Kaatrukku Poovai Theriyaadhaa ..." -- a
very melodious song and my favourite song from
this album. But, someone in this forum said that
it is a copy from a song in Pocahontas. So,
I hunted down a Pocahontas CD and what do I see ..
it is a direct lift indeed from the song "Listen
to your heart" (Track no. 8) on the Pocahontas
soundtrack CD! I had a lot of respect for
Karthik Raja as a composer. But, its diminished
much since finding this out -- and he seems to
be running out of stock already!

.... sadly,

-TRV
From: MPR (@ dyn07.iacc-t23.ndsu.nodak.edu) on: Mon Nov 17 23:36:02 EST 1997

In Konjum manjal pookkal , there is a female chorus which goes like this 'Saathi .... Saage'. this is also a lift from Sound Garden's I want you.

You too, Kathik?
From: Himanshu (@ 169.229.36.97) on: Tue Nov 18 02:22:07 EST 1997

By now I have listened to the Ratchakan album four times. It is fresh and very ARR style. It is definetely not a Roja or Bombay, but it is another Kadhalan. If you like ARR's style and want something different, then go for it. It is certainly worth the buy.
From: NOV (@ 202.184.134.10) on: Tue Nov 18 05:08:31 EST 1997

TRV & MPR - Both Veesum Kaatrukku Poovai Theriyaadhaa ... and Konjum manjal pookkal are my personal favourites. My advice is don't mind the similarity bit and just enjoy the songs.

Himanshu - I too have heard Ratchakan many times now, but the songs do not impress me as much as even Kadhalan. Something is certainly not right here - I just can't put my finger on it.
However, whatever you or I say, ARR fans will surely buy the album - as it's more than a year since his last release.
From: Aravind (@ 202.42.152.9) on: Wed Nov 19 05:10:48 EST 1997

Mukundan

Nice that you mentioned about Udit. But did you hear to another song in 'ratchakan'. It goes like 'Lucky Lucky'. The male shouter (I do not know his name) has murdered Tamil to the maximum. If you are bothered about pronounciation, avoid listening to songs by the so-called Music Directors of the new age.
From: MPR (@ dyn07.iacc-t23.ndsu.nodak.edu) on: Wed Nov 19 15:06:53 EST 1997

I just got the album Grahan by Karthik Raja. I think this is the best of Karthik's work so far. I would rate this album higher than Ullasam. The entire album has lot of south indian flavour, this may be the reason why i like the songs. Out of six songs, five songs are real good. There is a rap song which i don't like that much. In those five songs, One is a remake of "Netru vantha katru" from Kanmani and another one is Karthik's previous work. His orchestration is very innovative and enjoyable. Don't come to any conclusion by the songs which you listened to on the internet (the quality of the songs on the net sucks big time). Buy the CD, listen and tell me what you think.

I would say this is the album of the year!!!
as usual, this is my opinion only :-))

MPR
From: ARR_kAlai_vArubavan (@ webgate4.mot.com) on: Thu Nov 20 02:29:33 EST 1997

The "lucky lucky" from ratchagan is a westernised bhajan song "gajanana gajavadhana..."!!!
From: shankar (@ webgate6.mot.com) on: Thu Nov 20 02:31:21 EST 1997

Mr ARR_kAlai_varubavan,
Please identify yourself .I am also posting from the same domain.If u r from MOTOROLA "senate"(b'lore),-please contact me.
From: Mukundan Ranganathan (@ internet-gw1.hea.com) on: Fri Nov 21 14:19:36 EST 1997

Hi Aravind,

Nice to know that someone is around who feels the
same way w.r.t tamil pronunciation. The fact is
there are a lot of other good songs from the same
MDs which cannot be missed at all. It does not make sense to stop listening to them.

What beats me is the idea that, "Tamil Pronunciation" is one of the variables that can be altered for creating a sense of "something different" in a new song.

Mukund.
From: shankar (@ webgate3.mot.com) on: Sat Nov 22 09:25:33 EST 1997

I feel,"something different" should always be taken positively by the MDs .Different doesn't mean U have to slaughter a language and call it different.Difference in lyrics should be brought in the way the lyricist moulds/sees the song.For instance , kannukku mai azhagu (pudiya mugam) is different in the sense that VM has penned the song 'differently' and nobody has done that before.similarly he wrote "muginangal alaigirade mugavarigal tholaindanavo mugavarigal thavariyadal azhudidumo adhu mazhaiyo" Check the lyrics!he blends his imagination and his knowledge in tamil superbly!!Diff from singer's part can be something like SPB saying the word 'niveda" in 7 different ways in that song.Diff in music should be a diff tune or usage of different instruments/synthesisers etc not by copying a tune from an unknown (to people)
MD and giving it in tamil and claiming it to be different.
From: RAJAN (@ proxy-107.iap.bryant.webtv.net) on: Mon Nov 24 21:32:42 EST 1997

KADALUKKU MARIADAI
*ing Vijai, Shalini
Dir: Fazil
Lyrics: Palanibharathi
Music: ILLAYARAAJA

1. Anantha kuilin pattu.....
Chitra, Malaysia vasu, surendher,Arunmoli, Deepika
Family song.
2. Ennai thalata varuvala....
Hariharan, bhavatharini
Hariharan's first song with IR.
Tamilai kolai pannaamal paadiyirukkiraar.
Melting melody.
3. Oru Pattam boochi
KJY, Sujatha
4. Ithu sangeetha thirunalo
Bhavatharini
5. Anantha kuilin pattu
Chitra
6. O....Babay.....
Vijay, Bhavatharini
7. Ennai thalatta varuvala....
IR
8. Ayya veedu thirandhuthan.......
IR, Arunmoli
Thaththuva paadal

Songs: 2,4 and 7 are same tune.
From: RAJAN (@ proxy-107.iap.bryant.webtv.net) on: Mon Nov 24 21:36:39 EST 1997

TFM Group:

Pl. start the new thread for this music review discussion. It is very difficult to scroll from top to bottom to read the updated postings.

Thanks
RAJAN
From: MPR (@ dyn07.iacc-t23.ndsu.nodak.edu) on: Tue Nov 25 14:56:20 EST 1997

RAJAN:

FYI, Hariharan has already sung for Ilayaraaja in "Sathi Leelavathi". This might be the second one.
From: Amar (@ worf.qntm.com) on: Tue Nov 25 16:18:45 EST 1997

MPR, no you are wrong and Rajan is right! Hariharan has not sung under IR until now( I have always been wondering all these days why, why not!!! ) and the song you are referring to in "Sathileelavathi" is "Maharajanodu Rani Vanthu Sera" was sung by Unnikrishnan & CH(???)
From: Ramki (@ sparky.kohrman.wmich.edu) on: Tue Nov 25 16:46:08 EST 1997

Amar even i was thinking so until i listened to 'kalapani'song. The male voice in the hindi version for 'suttum sudar vizhi'sounds very much like Hariharan. I have been enquiring around for a long time but no one is able to confirm(Srikumar sung the song in tamil and Mallu).So if anyone of u has the Kaalapani cassette pls confirm the said issue-illenne thalai vedichu poidum:)

Rajan did u notice another debut combination in this album??Its KJY-Sujatha combination with Ilaiyaraja(sujatha oru interviewle indha cominationkku romba aengardha sonnanga)
From: MPR (@ dyn07.iacc-t23.ndsu.nodak.edu) on: Tue Nov 25 17:11:27 EST 1997

Amar:

Thanks for your info. till today, i thought 'MaharAjanOdu' was sung by Hariharan. the problem is i don't have the original cassette but copied that from my friend's cassette which is also a copy. one more thing is the voices of Unni and Hari sound almost similar in some songs like the above one.
Why IR didn't use Hariharan?, the reason may be Hariharan once said ARR is his favourite MD.

Ramki:

'Suttum sudar vizhi' is indeed by Sreekumar. I'm 100% sure about it, because i had the CD sometime back. Your message reminded me one famous(?) story (vikramAthiththan kathaigal) which comes in 'Ambulimama'. vEthAlam meendum murungai maram yErum enru nanbukiren.

:))
MPR
From: ramki (@ sparky.kohrman.wmich.edu) on: Tue Nov 25 18:34:53 EST 1997

MPR Did MBS sung the hindi version too????Doesnt sound like him at allllllllll. Mmmmm well:)
From: Dev Mannemela (@ tide09.microsoft.com) on: Tue Nov 25 18:54:12 EST 1997

No, Sreekumar didn't sing the hindi version of "Suttum". That was Hariharan singing. Sreekumar did sing "Tu Hi Tu" for ARR (Is this his first Hindi song?)
From: RAJAN (@ proxy-111.iap.bryant.webtv.net) on: Tue Nov 25 19:05:22 EST 1997

CHINNA RAMASAMY PERIARAMASAMY
*ing R.V. Udayakumar, Jeyaram
Dir: R.V.Udayakumar
Music: ILLAYARAAJA

1. UNNAI NAAN SERNTHIRUKKA....
SPB, CHITRA, manorama, R.V.U, senthil
Marriage song

2. VAALAYADI VAALAYA....
KJY, ARUNMOLI (this is first time)
soga paadal

3. KADALAYE... KADALAYE...
?, BHAVATHARINI
kindal paadal

4. IDUPPU SURUKKU PAIYILA....
MANO, DEVI( devi was introduced in "otha roopa thaarean..")
duet song

5. Athiripaacha kathirikoolu chinna ramasamy...
IR
Title song
From: Ramki (@ sparky.kohrman.wmich.edu) on: Tue Nov 25 19:53:42 EST 1997

Dev thanks for the clarification. Dev i think Sreekumar had a song in 'Gardish'(btw the kabhi naa kabhi haan song is a peaceful piece)

Rajan Devis first song is 'kalyana selai unadhaagum naala'from 'ambigai neril vandhaal'
From: MPR (@ dyn13.iacc-t11.ndsu.nodak.edu) on: Tue Nov 25 21:11:10 EST 1997

Sorry Ramki, i don't know about the hindi and malayalam version :(( Though some of the netters said the malayam version is much better than Tamil version, i have been listneing to tamil version only. have you heard the malayam version? which is better you think?

Rajan:

Please atleast say about how the songs are, like poor or ok, in addition to listing the songs. Thanks in advance.
From: MPR (@ dyn13.iacc-t11.ndsu.nodak.edu) on: Tue Nov 25 21:19:04 EST 1997

Rajan:

After i read your request to start a new thread for new movies, i also think that it is better to have a new thread. So i'm starting a new thread called 'New Reviews' (hope TFM group won't mind)

Guys, please post your reviews in that thread.

MPR
From: vijay (@ 3b37mac1.che.sc.edu) on: Wed Nov 26 02:11:53 EST 1997

hai rajan,
since songs from IR are very rare these days pl. say whether the songs or good,or bad,about the BGM etc. in addition to the general details for your review of the new songs.
vijay
From: Amar (@ worf.qntm.com) on: Wed Nov 26 11:06:26 EST 1997

Ramki & Dev, thanks for the info on Hariharan's first song under Ilayaraja. Now, I should listen to the Hindi version of "Kalapani" songs.

Btw, having started talking about Hariharan-IR combo, I want to raise this question that I have been pondering over for years. I am going to open a new topic on this "MDS vs New Singers"
From: RAJAN (@ proxy-113.iap.bryant.webtv.net) on: Wed Nov 26 13:38:29 EST 1997

Hindi version and Tamil version of "KALAPANI" is just a TRACK changing. Music director is not needed for this.

Vairamuthu wrote a lyrics for IR music in 93.
That film was telegu dubbing.
From: Rajaraman (@ 192.122.135.224) on: Sun Nov 30 23:17:35 EST 1997

This topic is being continued under "Puthupada
paadal vimarsanangal"..
Pl go there for further discussions.

(This post is for non-tamil community)

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