Topic started by Sathiya Keerthi (@ panorama.nus.edu.sg) on Fri Sep 12 03:08:14 EDT 1997.
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- From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ panorama.nus.edu.sg)
on: Fri Sep 12 03:21:29 EDT 1997
I have loved the PBS-SJ song, thennakeetru
oonjalilE SO MUCH over many years,
and I have always been eager to know about the
composer, MB Srinivasan. He hasn't composed for
many movies. The ones that I know are: Paadhai
Theriyudhu Paar (in which the above-mentioned
song is) and Madhana MaaLigai, which also
had excellent songs such as oru chinnap paravai
and EriyilE oru Kashmir Roja. I have
heard that MS Viswanathan had great respect for
MB Srinivasan's compositions. I am very interested
in knowing more about this great MD and the
songs he composed.
- From: Rajaraman (@ 192.122.135.224)
on: Fri Sep 12 04:49:14 EDT 1997
As I mentioned in another thread, Puthu
vellam is another movie he has composed for.
The movie has a nice song,
Thuli thuli thuli mazhaithuli
athu thoda thoda silirthathu malarkodi
I will write something about him tomorrow(i.e.
yaatum munthi kollavillayendraal)
- From: Thenraja Kaliappan (@ 167.193.67.47)
on: Fri Sep 12 14:44:53 EDT 1997
Is 'Thooraththu Idi Muzhakkam' by MB Srinivasan?
- From: pags (@ shad.cisco.com)
on: Fri Sep 12 16:25:28 EDT 1997
thenraja
thooraththu idi muzhakkam is by Salil Choudry.
- From: Pags (@ shad.cisco.com)
on: Fri Sep 12 16:30:47 EDT 1997
I think MBS was the MD for ellOrum nallavarE which has a good songs sigappuk kallu mookkuththi..(TMS/PS) and padaiththaanE bramma dEvan..pathinaaRu vayadukkOlam..(SPB solo)
Can someone clarify..???
- From: Ramki (@ csi08.cs.wmich.edu)
on: Fri Sep 12 17:01:29 EDT 1997
Pags VKumar is the MD for 'ellorum nallavare'.
Another good song in this film is 'pagai konda
ullam thuyarathin illam'(a solo by KJY)
- From: Kanchana (@ ww-tk02.proxy.aol.com)
on: Fri Sep 12 17:04:23 EDT 1997
Pags:
Does your sigappu kallu song go as follows:
chinna chinna mookuthiyaam
sigappu kallu mookuthiyaam
kanni pennae un oyyaaram kandu
kannai chimittura mookuthiyaam
kannai chimittura mookuthiyaam
If so, do you recall what the next few lines are? For the life of me I cannot remember a single word or even the tune/music after this pallavi. I've tried singing the pallavi again and again hoping to recall some fragments, but hitting a major mind block. Help!!!!
- From: Pags (@ shad.cisco.com)
on: Fri Sep 12 22:33:19 EDT 1997
kanchana
No, I was refering to TMS & PS duet. The one that you mentioned seems like PBS song. I get this strange feeling thatchinna chinna mookkuththiyaam.. tune is somewhat similar to thennangkEEtRu sOlaiyilE.
I am sorry, I donot know the lines.
- From: Rajaraman (@ 192.122.135.224)
on: Fri Sep 12 23:10:28 EDT 1997
something about MBS:
1958-il arimugamaanaar. mudual padam Avan
amaran. famous song: aasiyaavin jyotiyaaga. In 1959, he composed for
thaamarai kulam, paandi thevan.
In 1960, he did P.T.paar. Intha pada
songs patri namakku theriyum. In 1975, he did
puthu vellam. Appuram dhaagam-nu
oru padam. song: vaanam namathu thanthai.
Madhana maaligai came in 1976.
source: notes from a book by Dr. Kalyaana
sundaram.
- From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ panorama.nus.edu.sg)
on: Sat Sep 13 00:44:40 EDT 1997
Pags and Kanchana:
chinna chinna mookkuththiyaam is a TMS
solo.
A Tit-Bit:
In 1959, when Paadhai Theriyudhu Paar was
being made, Vaali (an unknown person at that time)
approached MBS for a chance. MBS asked him to write a
general samooga karuththuLLa paattu.
Vaali composed one immediately, but MBS was
unimpressed and politely said "No Chance" to
Vaali. After a few years that same song became
a big hit:
koduththadhellaam koduththaan of Padagotti.
- From: mb_piditha_thambi (@ bones.deneb.com)
on: Sat Sep 13 05:17:40 EDT 1997
I think, MBS was a popular MD in Malayalam movies.
Did he score for "Chemmeen" with great songs:
kadalinoakana pOneerE kAnAm poiena pOneerE
pOi varumPothendhu konduvarum...
mAnasa mailE varu....by MannAdE
I think this movie got many national awards..
(may be the MD is saleel chowdry !!!)
Howcome MDs like him, gave few great songs and
just disappeared !!!! Is it because of other
leading MDs politics ????
- From: Ravy (@ ww-tf02.proxy.aol.com)
on: Sat Sep 13 11:04:11 EDT 1997
MBS used to compose a lot of songs (mostly chorus) for AIR in the mid 70's. Most of them were based on Indira Gandhi's 20-point programme.
- From: Pagalavan (@ waterboy.cisco.com)
on: Sat Sep 13 13:25:14 EDT 1997
Sathya Kumar (bones)
MD for chemmEEn is not MBS but (as you guessed) Salil Choudry
MBS has done mostly in Malayalam films. MBS has also given a lot of songs for AIR. I remember hearing them during 70s.
- From: tinku (@ bones.deneb.com)
on: Mon Sep 15 01:39:08 EDT 1997
PagalavA:
How about Annai vELangkanni and Swamy aiappan?? -
Are they by MBS!!
In one of the OLD articles on Pattukottai,
I came to know that he was pretty close with MBS
and has written songs for MBS's non-filmy score.
- From: NOV (@ 202.184.134.10)
on: Mon Sep 15 05:44:02 EDT 1997
Kanchana - The TMS/PS song is a fast number and goes like this: Sivappu kallu mookuthi, sirikka vanthe maankutti.
Satya Keerthi - Thank you for reminding me of some great songs such as Oru chinna paravei annaiyey theidi vaanil parakindrathu and Yeriyiley oru Kashmir rojaa! But I can't recollect the PBS/SJ song. Can you tell me what are the following lines?
Rajaraman - The movie Puthu Vellam also has a song sung by TMS "puthu vellam, puthu vellam." I can't seem to remember the tune though.
Ramki - The song Pagai konda ullam thuyarathin illam is really fantastic. Yenna thathuvam-pa.
Tinku - The MD for Swamy Ayappan was a Malayalee. Soem name like G. Rangarajan or so. Even Annai veilagkanni has some Malayalee vadeh.
- From: Ravy (@ eagle.vapower.com)
on: Mon Sep 15 08:34:27 EDT 1997
NOV: The malayalee MD you are referring to is Devarajan. Also oru chinnap paravai & yeriyilae oru kashmir roja are already been mentioned in Early SPB & Early KJY threads respectively. Contributed by ......... you guessed it right.
Ramki & Pags: Ellorum Nallavarae has another good song besides the two that are mentioned here - padaiththanae brahmadevan by SPB
- From: Ramki (@ csi14.cs.wmich.edu)
on: Mon Sep 15 16:52:53 EDT 1997
Dasarathan was the MD for Swamy Ayyapppa
- From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ panorama.nus.edu.sg)
on: Mon Sep 15 20:37:38 EDT 1997
Ramki:
I think Devarajan is the MD for Swami Iyyappan.
- From: NOV (@ 202.184.134.10)
on: Tue Sep 16 04:41:43 EDT 1997
Satya Keerthi - I know the song you refered to in your first lne of the posting - after visiting the S. Janaki list forum! Beautiful song!
- From: Ramki (@ b256.bernhard.wmich.edu)
on: Tue Sep 16 17:50:08 EDT 1997
Sathya i think Dasarathan was the Music D and also
the director of swami ayyappa
- From: Aravind (@ 202.42.152.9)
on: Wed Sep 17 03:53:06 EDT 1997
Ramki
Sathiya Keerthi is right. It was Devarajan. i cannot forget that tremendous KJY song in Bhairavi (thiruppaaRkkadalil).
- From: Ravy (@ eagle.vapower.com)
on: Wed Sep 17 07:53:27 EDT 1997
Arvind:
ennappa naan Sathya Keerthi-kku munnamae 'Devarajan' - i paththi post panniyirukken. Adhai kandukkama vittuteenagalae? Ippadi kettu kettu credit vanga vendiyirukku.
- From: pags (@ shad.cisco.com)
on: Fri Sep 19 16:13:05 EDT 1997
I am not sure if MBS was the MD for yaarukkaaga azhudhaan, a Jayakanthan film, (60s film) with Nagesh as hero. Can someone clarify..??
- From: Aravind (@ 202.42.152.9)
on: Mon Sep 22 00:14:32 EDT 1997
Ravy
manchikka thalaivaa!! ungkaLukku credit kodukkath thavaRiyamaikku varunthukiREn.
- From: sApdu_ravy_sApdu (@ bones.deneb.com)
on: Mon Sep 22 05:06:32 EDT 1997
RavY (why Y and no I (no ego!) ):
kEtuvAngi sApiduvathil thappE illai. nAllA
sApdumA.
Pags:
yArukkAga AzuthAn MD is Pandurangan (engirunthu
pidichAnga ivarai!)
- From: Ravy (@ eagle.vapower.com)
on: Mon Sep 22 14:36:33 EDT 1997
Bones: Ravi pEr ekkachchakkama Ayiduchu (Ravi , Ravi Krishna).. That's why Ravy..
- From: thavaritEn (@ bones.deneb.com)
on: Tue Sep 23 01:58:08 EDT 1997
Pags:
I was wrong with MD for YarukkAga AzuthAn -
it should have been Ramanan. In the pAttu pusthagam
there is ONLY one song sung by KJJ:
uruvathilE ivan manithan
uLLathilE oru kuzanthai
- From: RV (@ 1cust32.max14.san-francisco.ca.ms.uu.net)
on: Sun Nov 2 05:52:16 EST 1997
Nov: Was the Pudhu Vellam Song this ?
" Idhu Pongi Varugindra Pudhu Vellam
Ini Thangu Thadaiyindri Idhu Sellum"
- From: You should know (@ dialin1094.toronto.globalserve.net)
on: Tue Nov 11 11:13:21 EST 1997
Are you crazy
- From: G. Varghese (@ host1346.tor1.pda.attcanada.com)
on: Sun Dec 21 23:51:13 EST 1997
I was surprised to hear that M.B. Srinivasan had directed music for so many Tamil movies. He was a well known and well respected music director in Malayalam films. "IDANAAZHIYIL ORU KAALOCHA" was one of his last "great" movies with songs by K.J.Yesudas. Yesudas's son Vijay also sings a "sloka" in that movie, his first movie venture. M.B.S. won a national award for background music in a Doordarshan serial (I don't remember the name).
- From: era.murugan (@ 131.241.26.63)
on: Fri Feb 4 21:35:02 EST 2000
“MBS used to compose a lot of songs (mostly chorus) for AIR in the mid 70's. Most of them were based on Indira Gandhi's 20-point programme”
I was going thru the archived postings in the thread on M.B.Srinivasan and was surprised to note this observation. To put the matters straight –
1) MBS, like the MakkaL Kavignar Pattukottai Kalyanasundaram came into TFM with a Communist background.
2) He formed the Madras Youth Choir in the 70s to encourage choral singing of literacy works by great poets like Bharathi and Bharathidasan. Bharathi’s songs like ‘Bharatha Desamenru peyar solluvar’, and Bharathidasan’s ‘Amma unthan kai valayaL aka mAttenA’ tuned by MBS for the Youth Choir are memorable. The group is still functioning and give public performances occasionally – especially on Bharathi’s birthday.
3) MBS had the unique achievement of making around 1000 school children from the corporation schools in Chennai (mostly from the deprived sections of the society) to sing in one voice Bharathi’s ‘Nalla kalam pirakkudhu’. Sujatha has written about this in one of his ‘KanayAzhi last page’ articles.
4) MBS did not set to music any propaganda songs during emergency. It was a coincidence his choir had chance to broadcast – mostly patriotic songs in all languages – one of them ‘Sivandha roja malarai aNindhu’ by KCS Arunachalam (who penned Chinna Chinna MukkuthiyAm for ‘Padhai Theriyudhu PAr’ and set to music by MBS) is a sheer melody. Another song by Thamizhanban sung by the group in AIR had words like ‘Iruttil puravin Iragu chilirpukaL, kaikaLin Oram kazhugin nagamkaL’ (alluding to the then political scenario) and hopefully proclaiming ‘Vidiya pokiradhu’. It is still a surprise how the song escaped the ever vigilant censors!
5) MBS scored music for Dhagam (an art film of the 70s directed by Babu Nanthan Kodu) – his Sahana piece ‘Urugidum veLaiyilum’ and Amirdhavarshini song ‘VAnam enadhu veedu’ (both by S Janaki) are lilting melodies. Jesudoss sings a short Bharathi song ‘vAnamengum Parithiyin sodhi’ before ‘Urugidum veLaiyilum’ begins, in his inimitable style.
6) Under MBS’s baton, Usha Uthup sang the first Tamil pop song ‘Malligai Poo’ for Madhana Maligai.
7) MBS had also scored music for a number of Malayalam art movies including the National Award winner Nirmalyam (story by the prominent Malayalam author MT Vasudevan Nair and starring P.J.Antony in the role of the protagonist VelichchappAdu).
8) MBS was the hero of the art movie in Tamil, ‘Agraharathil Kazhuthai’ directed by the Malayalam director Johny Abraham (of art movies ‘Amma Ariyan’, ‘Rarichan enna pouran’ fame) and scripted by NA.Muthusami of Koothupattari. He is the Brahmin professor with a donkey for a pet who goes to his native village and there begins the story.
9) MBS, as a true trade unionist had done yeomen service for organizing TFM musicians to demand better wages and living conditions. He never worried he had less movies on hand. and used to say, “I can earn my bread through my jingles”. (The famous Aspro jingle - I believe – broadcast in Vividh Bharathi in the 60s and 70s was tuned by MBS).
- From: Kishor (@ 62-6-215-214.btconnect.com)
on: Thu Jul 6 07:27:51 EDT 2000
Can anyone help me to get video tapes of malayalam movies directed by Adoor Gopalakrishnan and TV Chandran?
Kishor.
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