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Thamizh Thirai Isai sAdhanaiyALargaL

Topic started by sk (@ beacon-ext.nus.edu.sg) on Tue Apr 25 05:15:53 EDT 2000.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

In Cinema Express, vAmanan has been writing a
series of articles about old TFM artistes, under
the heading, 'thamizh thirai isai sAdhanaiyALargaL'.
I think it is very worthwhile to bring these to the
attention of our forumers. As I get time I will
scan and put these articles in this thread.

Discussions on the artistes are welcome.

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Responses:

• From: sk (@ beacon-ext.nus.edu.sg) on: Tue Apr 25 05:21:28 EDT 2000
  
  The first article I am posting is on someone
  whose name 99 percent of the forumers wouldn't
  even know.. DB Ramachandran. He was an assistant of
  G Ramanathan and later composed music for a few
  movies. Here are the articles..
  
  http://www.angelfire.com/pa3/ppp/dbr1.jpg
  http://www.angelfire.com/pa3/ppp/dbr2.jpg
  http://www.angelfire.com/pa3/ppp/dbr3.jpg
  http://www.angelfire.com/pa3/ppp/dbr4.jpg
  
  
• From: haris (@ inet-fw1-o.oracle.com) on: Tue Apr 25 17:58:22 EDT 2000
  
  good job..
  
  there are some square holes on the pages.. do they had some snaps of dbr??
  
  
• From: sk (@ beacon-ext.nus.edu.sg) on: Tue Apr 25 18:45:53 EDT 2000
  
  haris:
  
  One was a photo of DBR and the other was some news
  about a movie that actress Saritha is directing.
  I removed DBR's photo because it came out very
  poorly in the scanning.
  
  
• From: Udhaya (@ 209.36.218.132) on: Tue Apr 25 19:11:57 EDT 2000
  
  sk,
  Thanks for your endeavor. Great article. This is a very valuable thread to this forum, it should eventually get permanent thread status. I hope to read many more such articles.
  
  
• From: haris (@ inet-fw2-o.oracle.com) on: Tue Apr 25 20:03:08 EDT 2000
  
  sk,
  
  can u do something about the photo and post it??
  
  i'm very eager.. its also long time since i saw a snap of GR. also it would have been good if u had retained the saritha thing.. they have huge antique value (:-) )
  
  
• From: sk (@ beacon-ext.nus.edu.sg) on: Tue Apr 25 21:07:58 EDT 2000
  
  Udhaya:
  
  Yes, I feel the articles by vAmanan are valuable.
  If someone could also collect all the postings
  made by Manisegaran in this forum and add it to
  this material, it could form a treasure.
  
  Haris:
  
  Let me see what I can do with the photos.
  
  Here is the first part on V Kumar...
  
  http://www.angelfire.com/pa3/ppp/vk1.jpg
  http://www.angelfire.com/pa3/ppp/vk2.jpg
  http://www.angelfire.com/pa3/ppp/vk3.jpg
  
  
• From: sk (@ harvest.ucar.edu) on: Tue Apr 25 21:40:02 EDT 2000
  
  Haris:
  
  If you want to have a good look at GR.. you
  should see the movie,
  1000 thalai vAngiya apoorva chinthAmaNi
  GR acts as a big villain (as kapada sanniyAsi, a job
  very well done by GR). The movie is very very
  old. But it is quite interesting, with a lot of
  interwined stories. If you can manage to remember
  all the plots in the movie.. then you can be sure
  that you have a fantastic memory. The video of
  the movie is available with the Columbia people
  in Malaysia.
  
  
• From: sk (@ beacon-ext.nus.edu.sg) on: Wed Apr 26 01:31:12 EDT 2000
  
  The second part on V Kumar...
  
  http://www.angelfire.com/pa3/ppp/vk4.jpg
  http://www.angelfire.com/pa3/ppp/vk5.jpg
  http://www.angelfire.com/pa3/ppp/vk6.jpg
  http://www.angelfire.com/pa3/ppp/vk7.jpg
  
  
• From: Kishore (@ ts3-154.silcon.com) on: Wed Apr 26 02:09:03 EDT 2000
  
  sk: GR is not the villain in 1000 thalai - he plays the good sanyasi who helps the hero on his quest. Sings a couple forgettable songs in his own voice.
  
  Suggestion - can we combine this thread with the Old songs thread that's already permanent? Seems like we can revive that thread where nothing much is going on currently.
  
  Vamanan recently published expanded essays based on this series as a book - thiRai isai alaigaL. These new essays hopefully will be published as part 2.
  
  
• From: bb (@ grieg.crhc.uiuc.edu) on: Wed Apr 26 03:49:40 EDT 2000
  
  i have added the article on VK to the database. have spruced it up too.. have a look.
  http://www.newtfmpage.com/my/md/vkumar.html
  
  
• From: bb (@ grieg.crhc.uiuc.edu) on: Wed Apr 26 04:00:05 EDT 2000
  
  also, have created a new entry for d.b.ramachandran.
  http://www.newtfmpage.com/my/md/dbr.html
  
  our music directors database can be found here:
  http://www.newtfmpage.com/my/md/
  
  
• From: bb (@ grieg.crhc.uiuc.edu) on: Wed Apr 26 04:04:49 EDT 2000
  
  sk, if u scan more such articles, i will add it to our permanent database, for future reference.
  
  
• From: sk (@ boo.ucar.edu) on: Wed Apr 26 04:07:21 EDT 2000
  
  Kishore:
  
  Thanks for the correction of GR's role in 1000
  thalai... I had always been thinking that it was
  GR who acted as the villain! Let us keep this
  thread going for some time and then go back to
  the 'Old Songs' thread after we run out of fuel here. :-))
  
  bb:
  
  If you are planning to put the scanned files in
  newtfmpage, shall I send everything to you? Then I
  don't have to keep copies in my angelfire account.
  
  
• From: bb (@ grieg.crhc.uiuc.edu) on: Wed Apr 26 04:10:28 EDT 2000
  
  yes, anuppungO sk..
  
  
• From: sk (@ boo.ucar.edu) on: Wed Apr 26 04:15:40 EDT 2000
  
  bb:
  
  OK.
  

• From: RV (@ c660409-a.frmt1.sfba.home.com) on: Wed Apr 26 05:42:45 EDT 2000
  
  sk: Great articles! Never heard of TBR before and thanks for sharing the info. "Beautiful, Marvellous" is one of my favorite songs!
  
  
• From: rjay (@ brkfw0005.navistar.com) on: Wed Apr 26 11:01:02 EDT 2000
  
  I think many of Vamanan's articles are
  available on cinema express website archives.
  I saw them in december. The website should be
  cinemaexpress.com. Can someone take the time and
  try. It would save SK's effort of scanning,
  even though I still prefer to see the look and
  feel of printed pages to the web pages.
  
  
• From: sk (@ beacon-ext.nus.edu.sg) on: Wed Apr 26 18:15:32 EDT 2000
  
  rjay:
  
  I have all the links to the archives that you've
  mentioned. But I am not happy with them because:
  1. They put much less than one third of each
  article; and 2. They have missed many articles
  and instead keep putting repeated copies of the
  same article for a couple of months.. example,
  Papanasam Sivan's article has 4 copies. I felt
  that it will be complete and clean if we scanned
  everything and put them in our forum archives.
  But there is one positive thing about those web
  archives of cinema express.. they contain clean
  photographs. I will work out a way with bb and
  put those photographs together with the scanned
  articles that we are putting.
  
  The next item is the first part of KVM. I have
  scanned the pages and sent it to bb. He will be
  posting it here soon.
  
  
• From: bb (@ grieg.crhc.uiuc.edu) on: Wed Apr 26 18:28:07 EDT 2000
  
  here are a couple of good articles on KVM.
  http://newtfmpage.com/my/md/kvm1.html - the cinema express article
  http://newtfmpage.com/my/md/kvm4.html - an article in kungumam.
  have updated the KVM page too. have a look.
  http://newtfmpage.com/my/md/kvm.html
  
  
• From: Kishore (@ ts4-236.silcon.com) on: Thu Apr 27 01:37:02 EDT 2000
  
  sk - another place to dig: www.intamm.com. They use their own font and have articles relevant to this forum on their Music World and Sarigamapathanee magazine pages. Music World has articles/interviews in almost every issue - Jamunarani, kumudini, MSV, S Janaki, LR Eswari, PS, TMS, P Leela, Pugazhenthi/KVM, PUC, MKT etc.
  
  Sarigamapathanee focuses on classical music - so they have a series called thiRaiyil malarntha sangeetham or something like that. More on P Sivan, Kamala Laxman dance songs, NC Vasanthakokilam ... The archives are also available.
  
  
• From: rjay (@ dytnb207-12.splitrock.net) on: Thu Apr 27 02:02:22 EDT 2000
  
  sk,
  
  Thanks for the explanation. I am relieved
  that you have decided to scan the pages ;)
  
  I am sure this collection
  will add great value to our understanding of
  TFM, a running commentary for the real audio
  libraries of PPP and IR archives.
  
  Thanks
  RJAY
  
  
• From: bb (@ grieg.crhc.uiuc.edu) on: Thu Apr 27 05:51:04 EDT 2000
  
  the article on v.kumar says that "kalyaaNa saappaadu pOdavaa" from major chandrakanth is the original of autokaaran autokaaran.. is this true? anyone heard this song?
  
  
• From: sk (@ boo.ucar.edu) on: Thu Apr 27 06:00:41 EDT 2000
  
  bb:
  
  It is not true. In the charaNam of 'autokAran'
  Deva has lifted (directly) from parts of 'kalyANa
  sAppAdu pOdavA' and then continued with his own
  tune. But, when you listen to this part of 'auto
  kAran', you can immediately feel the similarity.
  
  
• From: haris (@ inet-fw1-o.oracle.com) on: Thu Apr 27 13:50:38 EDT 2000
  
  kishore,
  
  what the URLs for music world and sarigamapathanee??
  
  
• From: ECHO (@ hobbiton.org) on: Thu Apr 27 18:57:02 EDT 2000
  
  VK's page should contain courtesy to KennyG too.
  
  
• From: kishore (@ ts3-145.silcon.com) on: Fri Apr 28 00:29:28 EDT 2000
  
  haris: www.intamm.com/sariga/ and www.intamm.com/musicworld/index.htm. There are links to back issues on the main page of the latest issue. While Sarigamapathanee hasn't been updated since Feb, Music World's April issue has an interview with (Shankar) Ganesh, an article/interview about Lalgudi Jayaraman and a write-up on tamilisai.com. This website apparently will have songs from old tamil films as well.
  
  Also, check out the songs section to listen to 60s songs, IR/Deva/ARR hits and KBS hits.
  
  Note that the font doesn't work well w/ Win 98 & Netscape.
  
  
• From: rjay (@ brkfw0005.navistar.com) on: Fri Apr 28 17:11:55 EDT 2000
  
  Music worlds, Jan/Feb issues have a very
  interesting interview from MSV.
  
  http://www.intamm.com/back/musicworld/musjan/sixty.htm
  
  
  

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