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The Legends (MSV-TKR songs) cassetee release by HMV

Topic started by RV (@ c660409-a.frmt1.sfba.home.com) on Wed Jul 19 01:57:27 EDT 2000.
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I got a 5 pack cassette from HMV recently from India.There are 74 songs in the pack and each song has a short introduction by MSV. TKR has a speech in the very beginning of cassette 1. MSV provides very nice insights into some of the songs.


I will try to post as many interesting intros as possible in this thread.

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Responses:

• From: RV (@ c660409-a.frmt1.sfba.home.com) on: Wed Jul 19 01:59:20 EDT 2000
  
  In his speech TKR mentions that he served as a violinist in HMV itself in the 30s and 40s. He served as an assistant to CR Subbaraman and joined hands with MSV for the 1952 release, Panam, produced by NSK. Their last movie (at least of the golden period) was Aayiratthil Oruvan in 1965.
  
  There is also a small booklet with biographical information about MSV and TKR.
  
  
• From: RV (@ c660409-a.frmt1.sfba.home.com) on: Wed Jul 19 02:00:51 EDT 2000
  
  TKR says that NSK felt that MSV-TKR has a better ring to it than TKR-MSV and thats why they were known as MSV-TKR.
  
  
• From: Ramki (@ ws55.telsoft.net) on: Wed Jul 19 08:45:56 EDT 2000
  
  RV can you give the song list please?
  Thanks
  
  
• From: karthi (@ 1cust218.tnt3.providence.ri.da.uu.net) on: Wed Jul 19 21:22:37 EDT 2000
  
  Can we order those cassettes online?
  
  
• From: kk (@ ts4-214.silcon.com) on: Fri Jul 21 02:21:29 EDT 2000
  
  the cd version is available at Shrimati's in Berkeley. www.shrimatis.com
  
  HMV/RPG has created a new series called 'navarasam' nine collections of songs on themes like anandam, nagaichuvai, bhakti, sogam, kathal etc. Just a rehash of previously released songs, but may be worth it for a starter collection.
  
  also found a couple of collections 'superhits of 1956, 1957.' Presumably, a new series?
  
  Another interesting trend - pirated cds are being rereleased by HMV Malaysia. e.g. thillai ambala nataraja, am raja duets.
  
  
• From: NOV (@ ptl-cache6.jaring.my) on: Sun Jul 23 21:14:56 EDT 2000
  
  I too have been gifted enough to be given the collection as a gift by a dear TFM-DF fan, Ms. Kamala of Chennai. So, Ramki - here's fullfilling your request:
  
  VOLUME 1
  
  1. Enge theduvein - Panam
  2. Vaan meedhile - Sandi Raani
  3. Senthamizh naattu - Sugam Enge
  4. Naan sokkaa poatta - Kulebagavali
  5. Lol lol lol - Paasavalai
  6. Ullaasam thedum - Thennaali Raaman
  7. Thirumaalum Brammanum - Bakthi Maarkandeyan
  8. Veedi noakki oaadi - Pathi Bakthi
  9. Koovaamal koovum goakilam - Vairamaalai
  10. Kasakkumaa illai inikkumaa - Paththini Deivam
  11. Vinnoadum mugiloadum - Pudhayal
  12. Singaara punnagai - Mahaadevi
  13. Thendral urangiya poathum - Petra Magalai Vitra Annai
  14. Senthamizh thein - Maalaiyitta Mangai
  15. Aadai katti vandha nilavoa - Amudha Valli
  16. Thulli thulli - Thalai Koduththaan Thambi
  
  
  
• From: Pal (@ cc412182-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com) on: Sun Jul 23 22:09:59 EDT 2000
  
  NOV: balance 58 songs list adutha vaaramaa?
  
  
• From: NOV (@ ptl-cache6.jaring.my) on: Mon Jul 24 01:19:07 EDT 2000
  
  Pal - :-)
  I'm sure if I give the whole list, no one would look at all the songs deliberately. :-)
  
  VOLUME 2
  
  1. Azhage amuthe - PBS & PS (Raaja Malaiya Simman (!)
  2. Thaazhayaam poo mudichu - TMS & PL (Baaga Pirivinai)
  3. Indru namathullame - TMS & Jikki (Thanga Pathumai)
  4. Kaniya kaniya mazhalai - TMS & PS (Mannaadhi Mannan)
  5. Anbu manam - PBS & PS (Aalukkoru Veedu)
  6. Pirakkum poadhum - JPC (Kavalai Illatha Manidhan)
  7. Aththaan ennaththaan - PS (Paava Mannippu)
  8. Ennaruge nee irundhaal - PBS & PS (Thirudaadhe)
  9. Thendral varum - PS (Paalum Pazhamum)
  10. Paattondru keitten - Jamunarani (Pasamalar)
  11. Paarththu paarththu - PBS & PS (Manappandhal)
  12. Kaana vandha kaatchi - PS (Bhaagyaletchumi)
  13. Engirundhaalum vaazhga - ALR (Nenjil Oru Aalayam)
  14. Ithazh mottu virindhida - PBS & PS (Bantha Paasam)
  
  
• From: Ramki (@ ws55.telsoft.net) on: Mon Jul 24 08:49:31 EDT 2000
  
  NOV nandrigaL aiyaa:)
  Meedhi gaaNangaLin kuripeedugaLum thandhidumaaru viNNapikkiren
  
  
• From: u no hu (@ 144.49.154.45) on: Mon Jul 24 09:50:38 EDT 2000
  
  do not expect a great quality. The quality of EMI CDs especially the ones pressed in India are just worst than the pirated 30 rupees cassettes :-)
  
  
• From: NOV (@ ptl-cache6.jaring.my) on: Tue Jul 25 00:43:53 EDT 2000
  
  Ramki - ein thideernu indha formality? :-)
  
  I don no u hu - Actually I think the quality is not bad at all, considering the ancient-ness of some of these songs.
  But the greatest bonus is in hearing the complete songs, i.e. off the track! :-)
  
  
• From: Swaminathan Bharanidharan (@ 203.197.240.26) on: Tue Jul 25 03:31:20 EDT 2000
  
  please visit
  http://www.chithra.com
  
  
• From: NOV (@ ptl-cache6.jaring.my) on: Tue Jul 25 05:49:26 EDT 2000
  
  VOLUME 3
  
  1. Ponnai virumbum - TMS (Aalayamani)
  2. Vaa endrathu uruvam - PS (Kaaththiruntha Kanngal)
  3. Aadhi manidhan - PBS & JR (Bale Pandiya)
  4. Neththiyile oru kunguma - PS (Netchaya Thaamboolam)
  5. Annan kaattiya vazhi - TMS (Padiththaal Mattum Poadhumaa)
  6. Aththai magane - PS (Paatha Kaanikkai)
  7. Azhagaana malare - PBS (Thendral Veesum)
  8. Ulagam piranthathu - TMS (Paasam)
  9. Mayakkamaa kalakkamaa - PBS (Sumai Thaangi)
  10. Kodi asainthathum - TMS & PS (Paarththaal Pasi Theerum)
  11. Indha mandraththil - PBS & SJ (Policekaaran Magal)
  12. Rojaa malare - PBS & PS (Veera Thirumagan)
  13. Poyile pirandhu - TMS & PS (Aanadha Jhothi)
  14. Azhagukkum malarukkum - PBS & SJ (Nenjam Marappadhillai)
  15. Ennai thottu - PBS & PS (Paar Magale Paar)
  16. Paarappa Pazhaniyappa - TMS (Periya Idaththu Penn)
  
  
• From: Ramki (@ ws55.telsoft.net) on: Tue Jul 25 08:42:22 EDT 2000
  
  NOV chumma oru changekkuthaan:))
  
  volume 3 song collection looks more impressive compared to first 2
  
  
• From: sk (@ azure-ext.nus.edu.sg) on: Tue Jul 25 10:47:13 EDT 2000
  
  Ramki & NOV:
  
  The volumes seem to be arranged according to the years.
  As years passed from the middle 50's to the middle
  60's VR's songs got better and better in quality until
  the worst possibility (their separation) occured
  in 1966. I should get these CDs. Does anyone know
  whether they are available in Singapore? If not,
  where can you get them in India?
  
  
• From: Dorairaj Pichaiyan (@ bronx-ip-7-134.dynamic.ziplink.net) on: Tue Jul 25 19:13:42 EDT 2000
  
  Guys,
  These cds from HMV are available in "Raaga Vista" Stores in Edison, NJ.
  
  
• From: NOV (@ ptl-cache6.jaring.my) on: Tue Jul 25 21:20:19 EDT 2000
  
  Ramki - OK, OK, I will accept the honour. :-)
  I agree with you that Vol. 3 has better songs than Vol. 1, but this is subject to personal preference, right?
  
  SK - You are absolutely right!
  Vol 1 is before 1959, Vol 2 1959 - 1962, Vol 3 1962/1963, Vol 4 1963/1964 and Vol 5 1964/1965.
  
  As for availability, it says that the collection is for sale in India only and not to be exported out of India. I suppose it is easily available in Chennai.
  
  The cost of the collection is Rs275 for all five cassettes or Rs275 each CD.
  
  
• From: NOV (@ ptl-cache6.jaring.my) on: Wed Jul 26 04:32:40 EDT 2000
  
  VOLUME 4
  
  1. Odivathu poal - PBS & PS (Idhayathil Nee)
  2. Saththiyam idhu saththiyam - TMS (Idhu Sathiyam)
  3. Pakkaththu veettu paruva - PS (Karppagam)
  4. Javvathu mediayittu - TMS & PS (Pana Thottam)
  5. Paayudhu paayudhu - PS & LRE (Mani Oasai)
  6. Aada varalaam - LRE (Karuppu Panam)
  7. Poaga poaga theiryum - PBS & PS (Server Sunderam)
  8. Sirippu varudhu - JPC (Aandavan Kattalai)
  9. Ennuyir thoazhi - PS (Karnan)
  10. Yaarathu yaarathu - TMS & PS (En Kadamai)
  11. Naan unnai serntha - PBS & PS (Kalai Koayil)
  12. Enna paarvai - KJJ & PS (Kaadhalikka Neramillei
  13. Thoothu solla oru thoazhi - PS & LRE (Pachai Vialkku)
  14. Azhagu rasippatharkke - PS (Vaazhkkai Vaazhvatharkke)
  
  
  
• From: karthi (@ 1cust195.tnt3.providence.ri.da.uu.net) on: Wed Jul 26 19:36:10 EDT 2000
  
  I feel among the 4, vol 2 has rare and also great songs! I don't know much about vol 1. On the whole, I feel there are better songs in most of the movies, than the ones that have been compiled into the collecion!
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 129.252.22.221) on: Thu Jul 27 00:31:28 EDT 2000
  
  karthi,
  unfortunately thats how pre-recorded cassettes and CDs are;((
  
  
• From: RV (@ c660409-a.frmt1.sfba.home.com) on: Sat Jul 29 12:35:20 EDT 2000
  
  Vijay, Karthi: I actually like the fact that in most movies, a less popular song is played than the "best" or the most popular song.
  
  Vol I.
  Enge Theduven from Panam. I think this is there just to have a representative song from the first movie and as a voice of NSK.
  
  Van Meedhile from Chandi Rani: This movie was made in three languages simulataneouly. The Hindi lyricist had a tough time in coming up with a lyric for "Van Meedhile". MSV, who used to listen to lot of Hindi songs, came up with "Chanda Tale, Muskurayen Jawaniyaan". Bhanumathi and Ramakrishna were amazed. The lyricist said that this is a good start and came up with "Hotthon Pe Aagayi, Dil Ki Kahaniyaan".
  
  Senthamizh Naattu Solaiyile from Sugam Enge: VR had just contracted to Modern theaters. Modern theaters had the practice of asking MDs to copy Hindi tunes. VR were against this practice. Kannadasan recommended that these two should be allowed to have some leeway.
  The director (whats his name?) was asked to come and approve tunes VR had come up with. The director said "I dont know music. We dont hv L board MDs. Whether I like the tune or not is immaterial. If they like it, it is enough. From the tune, and lyric, I will get a visual." Sung by KR Ramasami and Jikki.
  
  Sokka Potta Nawabu from Gulebagavali: When the tune for this song was composed, Chandrababu protested. He said that he cant dance to this beat. MSV immediately got up and danced a few steps and said "This is the dance." Then Chandrababu and MSV became very close friends.
  
  Lol Lol Lol Macchan Unnaip Paathu from Pasa valai: VR recorded a very different song for this situation. I dont remember the words, but it is a slightly slower tune and has more literary words. Sort of a highbrowish song. They were quite happy with what they did and expected that highbrowish sogn to be a big hit. As they were about to leave, TR Sundaram, the legendary boss of Modern theaters called them to his office. He said "I dont have a Padmini or Anjali Devi or Bhanumathi singing this song. Such a highbrowish song would suit them. I have an ordinary new face here. You need to change the song in such a way that the actress becomes popular because of this song." VR went back, found Pattukkottai, who was the lyricist and asked him to change the lyrics. PK was unwilling. PK always felt bad about writinglyrics for producers who cant recognize good tamil but felt free to ask the lyricists to change it. Then MSV said "Say something like Macchan Unnai Paatthu Mayangip Ponen Netthu". PK said "all right, thats the pallavi" and wrote a new lyric. VR added a "Lol Lol Lol" and the song became a huge hit. The actress was known as Lol Lol Rajamani.
  
  
  More stories later. Nov, can you fill up too, please?
  
  
• From: sk (@ azure-ext.nus.edu.sg) on: Sat Jul 29 20:20:30 EDT 2000
  
  RV:
  
  Thanks for sharing. Is there such an introduction
  for every song in all volumes?
  
  

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