Topic started by Sathiya Keerthi (@ panorama.nus.edu.sg) on Mon Apr 6 02:26:53 EDT 1998.
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The aim of this thread is to collect, at one place, interesting
stories, anecdotes, tit-bits etc, related to TFM. A newcomer to
the forum will find this collection very interesting to read. For
example, Ramki mentioned the following story in another thread:
Do you remember the 'vizhiyil vizhundhu' (alaigal oyvadhillai) song?
Andha situation BRkku suddenaaga thondra, VMkku outdoor shootingil irundhu
phone seidhu kettuLLaar. VM phoneliye lyrics solla adhai tape seidhu
udanae IRkku anuppa, IR Janaki, Shailaja, PS ellariayum koppitturkkar
but no one was available. BSS mathram dhan mattirkkanga so avangalukku
adichadhu adhirshtam. The whole song was done in just 2 hrs time.
Annikke song shoot panni mudichittaangalaam.
Folks, please share any such stories, anecdotes and tit-bits that
you know, in this thread. If TFM Group thinks it is sufficiently
interesting, they could even place it in Permanent Topics.
Responses:
- From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ panorama.nus.edu.sg)
on: Mon Apr 6 03:45:36 EDT 1998
Vaali writes the following story in his AB, Naanum Indha
NootraaNdum:
In 1964, when he was just becoming very popular, one of his
relatives requested him to arrange a concert by CS Jeyaraman
at Trichy. Using TKR's contact, Vaali met CSJ (but never told
him that he was Vaali) and fixed the concert. A day before the
concert, Vaali booked a car and personally escorted CSJ from
Madras to Trichy. During the journey, CSJ was spending his time
singing Carnatic raagaas and Vaali spent his time identifying the
raagaa everytime CSJ finished singing one song. CSJ was impressed
with Vaali's music knowledge and asked him what his profession was.
Vaali politely replied that he wrote lyrics. Then CSJ asked
him whether any gramaphone records have been made using his lyrics.
Vaali said that devotional songs such kaRppanai endraalum
kaRchchilai endraalum and OraaRu mugam sung by TMS
were written by him. CSJ was very impressed, and, at this point,
made the climax remark:
Thambi, ungaLukku paattu ezhudha romba nallaa varudhu. neenga
Cinema-vil paattu ezhudhinaa nallaa irukkum. ungaLai vida mahaa
mOsamaai paattu ezhudhaRavanellaam ippO Cinema-vukkuL vandhuttaan.
aththai madi meththaiyadi
moondrezhuththil en moochchirukkum
punnagai enna vilai *
ippadiyellaam ippO mattaragamaa paattukkaL vara aarambichchuduchchu.
evanO oruththan Vaali-nnu ippO pudhusaa MSV/TKR-idam avandhaan
niRaya ezhudhaRaan. orE katchchip paattaa irukku. avanaivida neenga
embuttO thEvalai.
Vaali was stunned and kept his mouth shut. The car reached ThiNdivanam
at this point and they stopped the car for a coffee. The crowd there
recognized Vaali, came running towards him saying dEy Vaalidaa,
asking for autographs. Knowing who his companion was, CSJ was very
embarassed. He held Vaali's hands and told him: Thambi neengaLaavadhu
unga peyarai mudhalilEyE solliyirukkak koodaathaa? KavEri thaNNikkE
kuRumbu romba jaasthi. (Vaali's hometown is Trichy.)
**For those who don't know these songs: they were penned by Vaali in
his early days in TFM.
- From: Ramki (@ 198.108.169.4)
on: Mon Apr 6 10:21:30 EDT 1998
Thanks SK for starting the topic. This is another interesting story from MSVs interview for Singapore 12(couple of years back).
Paatu ezhudhvadhil prabalamaana Udumalai Narayana kavi,prabalamaagi kondirundha Kannadasan. Appodhu
yaaro kalyanasundaram endravar Naan nanraaga pattezhudhuven enakku cinemaavil chance vendum
endru MSViyidam vandhirkkiraar.Appodhu migavum busyaagairundha V-R group ippodhu yaarum parkka time illai appuram vanga endru virattivittargal.
Vidapidiyaaga andha kalyaanasundaram moondru naal thodarndhu varavae erichal adaindha MSV 'ennaya
venum adhaan chance illennu solrom ille'endru kovathudan koora'ille sir indha oru paatai mathram kelungal'endru kenjiyirukkuraar KS. Sari ponapogiradhendru MSV koora aedho madai thirandha vellam pole KS 'thoongadhae thambi thoongadhae'paadalai (if i remember correctly this is the song MSV mentioned)pozhindirikkaar.
Avar paadalai mudithavudan angae perum amaidhi.
Ellorum stunnaagi nindruvittargal. MSV piragu avarai aara thazhuvi kondu neeye indha padathil ella paadalai ezhudhungal endru sollivittar.
andru iravu MSV kadavul mun nindru azhudhaaram'naa enakku aerpatta thimiraal evvalavu periya kalaignanai alatchiyapadutha irundhen.inimel idhai madhiri seiyamal irukka nee dhan arula vendum'.
Indha nigazhchikku piragu evar MSViyidam chance kettu chendralum avar thurathianuppamattar
Btw andha kalyanasundaram dhaan pattukottai KS:)
- From: Amar (@ worf.qntm.com)
on: Mon Apr 6 13:35:28 EDT 1998
Ramki, I can not understand one factor in your story. I thought Pattukkottai was popular even before V-R became very busy. PKS has written songs under SMS et al. So, I quite don't understand how come PKS begged for a chance with then popular V-R? Maybe, I am wrong in my presumption of the chronology of events. Please, clarify this.
I just thought I will mention this statement made by a friend of mine whenever the topic of discussion cetenered around TFM old songs
"If PKS lived longer, Kannadasan would not have become this popular" - how do you all agree with this statement( only when I heard this statement the first several years ago, I started noticing the great songs of PKS and I truly believe PKS had used much more "Eliyanadai" in writing Tamil songs as compared to Kannadasan ).
- From: gOpAl (@ 1cust171.tnt1.sarasota.fl.gt.uu.net)
on: Mon Apr 6 14:52:33 EDT 1998
Amarji
Para 2, i agree with you.
- From: Ramki (@ cs512.cs.wmich.edu)
on: Mon Apr 6 16:34:17 EDT 1998
Amar I too had the same thoughts when MSV narrated the story but again im too not sure which MD came first..we need some one like Manisekaran to clarify on this
- From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ panorama.nus.edu.sg)
on: Mon Apr 6 20:41:49 EDT 1998
Ramki:
I also think you have mistaken PKS for someone else.
PKS was born in 1930, wrote his first TFM song in
1951 (movie: Padiththa PeN) well before MSV/TKR
became MDs. He died very young, at the age of 29.
He was a communist and always more eager to write
social songs relating to the downtrodden. TFM
would have been greatly enriched if he had lived
longer.
- From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ panorama.nus.edu.sg)
on: Mon Apr 6 21:17:59 EDT 1998
Here is the story on how Vaali got his name; from Vaali's AB:
Naanum Indha NootraaNdum:
enakku siRu vayadhil chiththirangaL varaivadhil aarvam uNdu. naan
chiththirangaL varaiyum pOdhellaam Babu ennum paLLith thOzhan
pakkaththilirundhu paravasap paduvaan. avan ippOdhu Calcutta-vil
irukkiRaan. Maali-yaip pOl naanum oru siRandha chiththirakkaaranaaga
varavENdum endru aasaip pattu avandhaan enakku Vaali endru peyar
soottinaan. adhan piRagu engaL ooril uLLa aattukkutti kooda ennai
Vaali endru azhaikka thodangiyadhu.
Dhesikar endra Thamizh vaaththiyaar naan varaindha Bharathiyaar
padaththai vaangip paarththaar. adhan keezhE naan Vaali endru
kaiyoppamittirundhEn. padaththai paaraattiya avar, dEy Rangaraj*,
unakku vaal illadaa; appuRam eppadi Vaali endru peyar vachchukkittE?
avar ippadi kEttadhum sutri nindra maaNavargaL kollendru siriththu
vittaargaL. maRu naaL avarai sandhiththu oru thuNduk kaagidhaththai
neettinEn. vaangip padiththaar. adhil keezhk kaNdavaaRu ezhudhi
irundhEn:
vaalillai enbadhanaal
Vaali-yaagak koodaadhaa?
kaalillai enbadhanaal
kadikaaram Odaadhaa?
ezhudhiyadhaip padiththuvittu kuttu vaippaar ena ninaiththEn; maaRaaga
en mudhugil oru shottu vaiththaar!
*Rangaraj is Vaali's true name.
- From: RV (@ nat-20.avanticorp.com)
on: Mon Apr 6 21:18:38 EDT 1998
Also, MSV-TKRs first movie was Panam in 1952. ( Source: TFM pages on MSV-TKR )
- From: Ramki (@ nas01ppp208.apts.wmich.edu)
on: Mon Apr 6 21:55:56 EDT 1998
SK im very sure that it was KS(otherwise i wouldnt have mentioned it here:)). Oru velai MSV thavaraaga solliirukkalaam..but i doubt it.
If it hadnt been a big kavignar MSV avvalavu unarchivasapattuirukkamattaar.Ungal ellorkkum vandh doubt enakkum vandhadhu.But how to get things clarified?
- From: Ramki (@ nas01ppp208.apts.wmich.edu)
on: Mon Apr 6 23:35:34 EDT 1998
'avan dhaan manidhan'shootingkkaaga japan matrum pala aasiya naadugalukku shootting nadatha aerpadu ellam aagivittadhu.May maadham shooting endraal
april varai Kavignar Kannadasan paadal edhuvum ezhudhi tharavillai.Producer avarai dhinamum azhaithu 'May'maadham shooting paadal padhivu seiyyavendum varigal ezhudhi kodungal endru thondharavu seiyya kavignar oru vegathudan andha paadalai ezhudhinnar
'Anbu nadamaadum kalaikooda'MAY'
aasai mazhaimega'MAY'
kannil vilaiyadum ezhilvanna'MAY''
etc etc endru ovvoru variyum 'MAY'vil mudivaagumpadiye ezhudinaar
Source-'Kannadasan neram'(RTM-6)
- From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ panorama.nus.edu.sg)
on: Tue Apr 7 00:33:37 EDT 1998
Ramki:
Thanks. I didn't know about this MAY story. niRaya
kadhaigaL vachchiruppeenga pOlirukku? As you get
time please share such stories with us.
RV:
mellisai mannargaL MSV/TKR uruvaana kadhai patri ellOrukkum
sollidalaamaa?
maRaindha isaimEdhai C.R.Subbaraman-idam Viswanathan, Ramamurthy
iruvarum udhaviyaaLargaLaagap paNiyaatrinar. Viswanathan harmonist.
Ramamurthy violonist. CRS udal nalam kundriya pOdhu MSV-yidam,
inimEl naan mERpaarvaithaan paarppEn. NeeyE recording paNNikkO;
ellaam paarththukkO, endru solliyirundhaar. CRS maRaivukkup pin,
avar isai amaiththuk koNdirundha padangaLin thayaarippaaLargaL
MSV-yidam vandhu, CRS ungaL mEl niRaya madhippu vaiththirundhaar.
avar vittup pOna padangaLai neenga mudiyunga, endru kEttuk koNdanar.
TKR nammai vida romba naaLaa vElai seyyuRaarE; avar nammaivida
periyavaraachchE; avarai vittu naam thaniyaa pOgak koodaathE
endru MSV thayaarippaaLargaLidam valiyach chendru naangaL iruvarum
sErndhu isai amaikkiROm endru solla, Viswanathan-Ramaurthy endra
mellisai irattaiyargaL uruvaanaargaL. CRS vittu chendra padangaLai
mudiththuk koduththanar.
1952-il kalaivaaNar NSK-yin thayaarippil uruvaana padam paNam.
MSV/TKR iruvarum muzhup padaththiRkkum iNaindhu mudhalil paNiyaatriyadhu
indhap padam enalaam. Title-il Ramamurthy-Viswanathan endru pOdunga;
Ramamurthy-thaan ennai vida vayadhil periyavar, endru MSV kalaivaaNaridam
sonnaar. dEy! nee Harmonium vaasikkiRE, tune pOduRE, paaduRE, un
peyarai mudhalil pOduvOmdaa endru kalaivaaNar solla; illaENNE, avar
ennai vida vayasil periyavar endru MSV solla; adhanaalthaaNdaa
solREn, Viswanathan-ukku keezhE Ramamurthy irundhaa unnai thaangip
pidippaarudaa, endru NSK solla, paNam padaththil MSV/TKR iNaindhaargaL.
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