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Ilayaraja's comments in Kumudam

Topic started by Karthik (@ 164.164.128.13) on Thu Feb 8 07:26:45 EST 2001.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

IR has, in an interview in the latest Kumudam (also covered in the front page with his snap), said that 'He has wasted 25 years of his life in film music'.

I dont know how others look at it, but I see it as a very harsh statement of total disloyalty. Its tamil film music that has given IR all the attention and praise he is receiving now. If he's a genius in composing WC, that, in any way doesnt affect anybody in TN. What affects the common man in TN is how good IR has composed in his tamil films.

IMHO, it was a statement totally unwarranted and shows utter disrespect on IR's part towards his craft.

Karthik

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Responses:

• From: Pal (@ 199.43.48.21) on: Thu Feb 8 09:19:25 EST 2001
  
  Situation reminds me the song from aenipadigaL...
  
  aetri vitta aeNi ondru nindrapadi nirkiradhu
  aeri vitta oru manamO vEru vazhi nadakkiradhu
  aetriyadhum kutramillai aeniyilum paavamillai;))
  
  
• From: Vijay Venkatram J (@ 202.54.33.174) on: Thu Feb 8 09:19:45 EST 2001
  
  Hello Karthik,
  I think you haven't read the article clearly! Please don't jump to a conclusion from the Kumudam heading which always aims at projecting controversial statements ONLY from any article!
  Have you heard His songs "Saadhi Madha Pedhamindri","Indiran Vandhadhum","Kaadhal Kasakkudhaiyya"? In these songs which He has penned, He has praised Cinema so much! So, the question of disregard and disloyalty is nullified!
  In the body of the article, He says that He has wasted 25 years in Cinema but has not done justice to it! He thinks that He has been cheating people and repents for not being more productive! He also makes a remark that He did not do anything apart from Cinema which the PRESS have focussed!
  You people call His humility as arrogance! You call His confession as disloyalty! What a crowd are you all?
  But still I say one thing - His words can be clearly understood only by sincere Raaja fans who are in line with His thought process, so there is no surprise in you all misinterpreting it!
  Please leave Raaja alone! We are here to argue for Him so you don't think that any comment can be casually made over Him!
  I request only His fans to join His fans club below:
  http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/maestroilaiyaraajafansclub
  
  
  
• From: CLA (@ 203.199.220.117) on: Thu Feb 8 09:25:19 EST 2001
  
  The "approver" of tfm music times.
  He has started his 'penaathal'.
  He has made his "fast" buck with good musicians around him. No doubt any fool will have hits with such a quantum no. of films and good musicians around to help. He has finally accepted the truth!
  It is time for him to retire or produce his own musically dedicated movie as discussed by few others in IR forum!
  
  
• From: Ramki (@ 64.244.40.35) on: Thu Feb 8 09:35:21 EST 2001
  
  But still I say one thing - His words can be clearly understood only by sincere Raaja fans
  who are in line with His thought process, so there is no surprise in you all misinterpreting it
  
  
  what?#&@!
  
  
• From: AG (@ 198.232.250.51) on: Thu Feb 8 13:25:26 EST 2001
  
  CLA,
  "No doubt any fool will have hits with such a quantum no. of films and good musicians around to help. "
  
  Why don't you also try? You seem to be as good as a fool if not worse.
  
  
• From: Polappu Lethu (@ 206.222.96.195) on: Thu Feb 8 14:37:02 EST 2001
  
  CLA,
  When is your first album coming out?
  Velai Vetti
  
  
• From: fan (@ 66.51.107.3) on: Thu Feb 8 14:48:47 EST 2001
  
  ungala yaruppa cinemavukku vara sonnathu.
  pannapurathila irrukka vendiyathuthanae.
  
  
• From: Fliflo (@ 146.186.113.254) on: Thu Feb 8 15:24:26 EST 2001
  
  "Munnadi Pona Uthaikkum, Pinnadi Pona Kadikkum" ithu thaanya ulagam. People can not open their mouth. Raja gave this talk in a conference entitled "What good movie has offered in its 75 years of history?". There was an ensemble of people from various fields. There were only few movie people and probably it was altogether covered by a pessimistic cloud as people looked for literary aspects of it. Raja gave a speech for the title. I donno why this should be balooned so big. Lot of other people spoke, I guess, and kumudham was selective in picking only this one up. Interestingly, this article was written by same Muthuramalingan-referred as an idiot by many here for his contrasting comments on friends movie. Do give the same importance here....
  
  
• From: Kidding (@ 209.187.151.146) on: Thu Feb 8 16:41:38 EST 2001
  
  
  From: CLA (@ 203.199.220.117) on: Thu Feb 8 09:25:19 EST 2001
  
  He has made his "fast" buck with good musicians around him. No doubt any fool will have hits with such a quantum no. of films and good musicians around to help
  
  This is what happened to MSV? Just Curious!!
  
  
• From: rexin (@ 66.51.107.4) on: Thu Feb 8 17:01:42 EST 2001
  
  http://www.vikatan.com/av/11022001/av0905.htm
  
  
• From: hihi:-) (@ 134.124.159.71) on: Thu Feb 8 17:20:02 EST 2001
  
  kidding :-)
  
  rishimUlaththAth thEdakkUdAdhu theriyumO? :-))
  
  
• From: kk (@ 198.4.92.5) on: Thu Feb 8 18:35:53 EST 2001
  
  Have you guys never said, you have wasted your time in your job? does that mean you are not thank full? or does it mean you are hypcrite for still staying in the job?.
  
  I think, it means you are expecting better work.
  
  
• From: Saketh@Binghamton (@ 128.226.107.53) on: Thu Feb 8 19:08:22 EST 2001
  
  Once in a while, IR has to say something without having a clue as to what he is talking about. He is just too human guys, forgive him!
  
  
• From: kooththan (@ 198.73.152.100) on: Thu Feb 8 19:43:40 EST 2001
  
  This thread will not have been started if people had only taken the time to read the article in it's entirety.
  
  nilavai paarthu umizhhirathu oru koottam.
  
  athil, thaamthaan puththisaalihal endra maar thattal veru!
  
  ....later
  
  
• From: kooththan (@ 198.73.152.100) on: Thu Feb 8 19:44:10 EST 2001
  
  This thread will not have been started if people had only taken the time to read the article in it's entirety.
  
  nilavai paarthu umizhhirathu oru koottam.
  
  athil, thaamthaan puththisaalihal endra maar thattal veru!
  
  ....later
  
  
• From: Karthik (@ 164.164.128.13) on: Thu Feb 8 22:48:00 EST 2001
  
  I had of course read the article in its entirety. There is a place where IR says that a famous Hungarian composer has told him that his notes are absolutely blemishless while he still finds a few faults in Beethovan's notes.
  
  And IR himself says that nobody would have known this fact if he hasnt informed this to the public himself. And that he is at the grave risk of being termed arrogant. I perfectly agree with IR in this count. Nobody would have known this rare info if somebody informed like him explains it to common folks like us.
  
  But all this interest in WC and his taking immense pride in being able to compete with the best in WC only reaffirms what he claims in the cover. That he thinks he has wasted his life in cinema while he could have done a great more if he stuck to his WC pursuits.
  
  Even the new kumudam has carried a reader's letter where he takes the 'kick the ladder after you've gone up' adjective in tamil as a response to this statement of IR. So please dont expect everybody to read this statement the way any HCIRF would do. Its a statement which comes out of genuine anguish on part of IR and could mean only one thing.
  
  I still think IR should have given this statement a thought before uttering it. It indeed shows utter disregard to a 25 year old career which has given IR everything he has now.
  
  --Karthik
  
  
• From: hari (@ 128.83.175.32) on: Fri Feb 9 00:00:03 EST 2001
  
  Nalla kadhai..
  
  who gave what to IR? IR gave his life to TFM. and tfm gave him nothing back. who is the ladder? who is kicking whom???
  
  nalla joke.
  
  
• From: Vijay Venkatram J (@ 203.197.154.210) on: Fri Feb 9 01:03:29 EST 2001
  
  Congrats Hari! You said exactly what I wanted to!
  
  I request only Maestro Dr.Ilaiyaraaja's fans to join His fans club below:
  http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/maestroilaiyaraajafansclub
  
  
• From: Karthik (@ 164.164.128.13) on: Fri Feb 9 02:12:36 EST 2001
  
  "who gave what to IR"
  
  This is probably the most insensitive comment I've heard so far!
  
  You are talking so lovingly about IR ONLY b'cos of the music he has created in tamil cinema. Its tamil cinema which gave him a name, a hell of a lot of fame and needless to say, lot of wealth. Agreed its his blood and toil, and he has worked hard for it. But what is he without a medium to express it?
  
  I understand that its his anguish that he'd have done much more and more people would have heard his music if he worked on WCM. But how does anyone know IR today? As a good human? As a saint? IR reminds one only of tamil film music. And he's shirking away from what made him?
  
  Tamil cinema was the medium used by IR to express his creativity, so he cannot just make such abrasive claims like these. I can understand if VS Narasimman makes a statement like this about tamil cinema. 'Cos he has never been able to succeed through this medium. But IR? He's what he's today b'cos of tamil cinema!
  
  --Karthik
  
  
• From: SL (@ 63.253.226.62) on: Fri Feb 9 03:09:05 EST 2001
  
  IR was not cursing himself for having entered TFM. He was just observing that he needn't have spent as much time composing for movies as he actually did.
  
  
• From: Observer (@ 144.92.164.198) on: Fri Feb 9 03:58:24 EST 2001
  
  Good that IR realizes this atleast now. There is no contribution like contribution to classical music - the most evolved form of music. That is the biggest creative challenge one can get. Film music, all said and done, in spite of its mass appeal, or rather because of it, is a lower form of music. For one, there are commercial constraints. Moreover, one has to be in the neighbourhood of light music which means very little freedom to experiment - look at it, no song exceeds 5-6 minutes. On the other hand, you have symphonies lasting an hour or so. It is much more difficult to sustain a musical thought for so long.
  
  IR's contributions to film music are more than enough. We do not need MSVs and IRs for every movie. Let their talents be used for the top-class movies letting them concentrate on more non-trivial pursuits.
  
  
• From: cram (@ 206.103.12.102) on: Fri Feb 9 04:37:04 EST 2001
  
  IR shouldn't have made such an irresponsible statement, and IR fans should have enough sense to admit that he committed a grave blunder in saying whatever he has said. IR is what he is today because of tfm, and he ought to try and go beyond it instead of making such sour grapes statements. Anthony Hopkins made a similar statement sometime back, that he feels he should have done something better in life than something as silly as acting. That was a direct insult to cinema, as is IR's latest statement .
  I think the sour grapes factor works strongest in the case of musicians in Indian cinema. In one interview, MSV said, "Pazhaya paadal pola, puthiya paadal illai". I saw this as just a case of being unable to digest the success of the latter-day musicians. Hinsi film composer, Naushad, never tires of complaining how music was in the good old days and how rotten it is in these days (this has been going on for about 20 years). In a Sun TV interview, IR said today's music is plastic music. I can't accpet such a sweeping generalisation, despite being a hard-core IR fan.
  Over to you guys.
  
  

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