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Ilayaraaja - perhaps the only composer to compose for humor

Topic started by nithin (@ pppa62-resalechicagometro4-4r7190.saturn.bbn.com) on Mon May 15 22:06:47 EDT 2000.
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I think Raaja is perhaps the only composer to have composed very apt songs for humorous situations. Earliest examples are: Vangonna (Badrakali) and Engengum Kandenamma (Ullasa Paravaigal. The list is really long and just how easy is it for anyone to composer for humor will tell us something more about the enigma of IR.

Here again, I can't think of any composer who displayed this side of human nature in music.

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Responses:

• From: cram (@ 206.103.12.102) on: Tue May 16 05:46:16 EDT 2000
  
  nithin,
  i made the same point a long time back in a thread on IR's BGM scores. i think his ability to enhance the "funniness" of a scene is another testimony to his genius, and of course, we cannot ignore his songs in this realm. one of the best comedies ever made in tamil film, indru poi naalai vaa, had fantastic BGM that blended perfectly with the film's nature. there are quite a few scenes without any dialogue, only the BGM speaks. i'm sure there are other such scores, but i can't recollect any off the cuff.
  onre of my favourite light songs is vengaya saambarum (panneer pushpangal).
  
  
  
• From: Udhaya (@ 209.36.218.162) on: Tue May 16 13:11:30 EDT 2000
  
  Shankar Ganesh did fine in this category:
  -Pournami Neram Paavai Oruththi
  -Aalaanaalum Aalu
  -Vaa Machchaan Vaa
  
  MSV and KVM must have dozens dating back to 60s and 50s. Pretty much every A.L. Raghavan, Chandrababu song had humor. Comedians used to sing many songs regularly in old movies. N.S. Krishnan has many humorous ones, they probably don't play them on the radio these days.
  
  ARR has:
  -Oorvasi
  -Strawberry Kannae
  
  IR has his share in humor but "he didn't start the fire."
  
  
• From: Sriram Lakshman (@ dhcp-css-consult-11.lg.informix.com) on: Tue May 16 14:50:41 EDT 2000
  
  1.MaadimEla maadi katti - kaathalikaa nEramillai
  2.Kaasikku pOgum sanyaasi - Chandrodayam
  3.varavu YettaNa selavu pathaNa - Bama Vijayam
  4.piLLayaaru koyilukku - Baga pirivinai
  
  Though there are songs sung by NSK in the 40's, I have listed the above because you gave everything from the western upbeat type(1) to classical (2) and folk(4). I am glad that none of you said that IR was the first composer in Tamil.
  
  
• From: SL (@ dhcp-css-consult-11.lg.informix.com) on: Tue May 16 14:52:34 EDT 2000
  
  typo - "gave everything" should read "have everything"
  
  
• From: puls (@ daprx02new.ext.nokia.com) on: Tue May 16 15:14:51 EDT 2000
  
  Here again, I can't think of any composer who displayed this side of human nature in music.
  
  yes you are right, you can't think of any composer...but I am sure lot of other people can and I am sure there are many to follow like Udhaya and SL. what an excellent topic.kudos !!
  
  
• From: Balaji (@ webproxy05qfe0.sbi.com) on: Tue May 16 15:17:12 EDT 2000
  
  Some of the songs with tinge of humor by other MDS
  
  ShankaR ganesh:(One of his best)
  1. Pattukotta Ammalu (Ranga -- SPB & MV in their best form)
  
  VKumar:
  1. Aduthathu Ambujaththa (Infact all early KB films used to have such songs)
  
  KVM
  1. Mama Mama Mama (Kumudham -- one of the best of JPC)
  
  MSV (had plenty, but this one is my favorite)
  1. Jambulingame Jada Jada (Kasedhan Kadavulada)
  
  As Udhaya said, till Surulirajan's time(80/81), the comedian always had one song in the film.
  
  After that the trend has died slowly.
  
  Balaji
  
  
• From: Groupie! (@ daecfp02.sprint.com) on: Tue May 16 16:46:58 EDT 2000
  
  Sriram: IR kku munnaadi tamil composer irundhaangaLaa? meiyyaalumaa? Get out of here!:-)
  
  
• From: rjay (@ brkfw0005.navistar.com) on: Tue May 16 16:47:38 EDT 2000
  
  Sriram
  
  Thanks for letting me know Pillaiyaru kovilikku
  pozhudu soozha is from B.Pirivinai. I see the
  origins of 'Tirupachi arivalu' charanam's
  inspiration in that song's pallavi. Shashi said it reminds 'malarndum malaradha'. Well, we are
  talking about our subjective impressions!
  
  Here are a few more attempts at Humor:
  
  Ilayaraja:
  Barla Barla - EI mayam
  Maamaavukku kuduma - Pmannan
  Aatukutti muttaiyittu
  aaha vandhirichu
  muthan muthalaaga kaadhal duet
  
  In many of these, I am not sure if
  music by itself expresses humor.
  
  ARR
  Kaththirikka - duet
  
  MSV
  enna kobam sollu bama
  
  There is also an old song 'iddiliyae yaen
  ilaithu ponai, nee enthappayal meedhu kaadal
  anai' anyone recollects the pallavi/context?
  
  
  
  
• From: rajaG (@ daecfp02.sprint.com) on: Tue May 16 16:59:47 EDT 2000
  
  Who composed KalyaNa samayal saadham?
  
  
• From: rameshb (@ 63.98.159.72) on: Tue May 16 17:17:14 EDT 2000
  
  IR
  ammammmOi ada appappOi.. mAyAjAlama... (jappAnil kalyAna rAman)
  mAmAvukku kudumA kudumA (punnagai mannan)
  vAdi en kappa kizhangE (alaigaL Oivathillai)
  Orambo Orambo (ponnu oorukku puthusu)
  
  kalyAnamAm kalyAnam 60Am kalyAnam
  engaL kAyAnam galAtta kalyAnam
  seithi kaetto saeithi kaetto
  pAlakkAttu pakkaththile oru
  
  
• From: Sriram Lakshman (@ dhcp-css-consult-11.lg.informix.com) on: Tue May 16 17:52:58 EDT 2000
  
  RajaG, Ghantasala composed the song. Movie : Maya bazaar.
  
  
• From: nithin (@ pppa61-city-3r7191.saturn.bbn.com) on: Wed May 17 01:37:42 EDT 2000
  
  cram an rjay got the theme in perspective. I meant to say that IR's comedy songs simply made you laugh because of the element of jocularity inherent in the tune itself. i don't see that in most of the songs listed here of the other composers.
  
  songs like barla barla, yengengum kandenamma simply gives me mirth and laughter.
  
  
• From: Udhaya (@ 209.36.218.162) on: Wed May 17 12:36:36 EDT 2000
  
  nithin,
  Maybe you should have called this thread "Ilayaraja--perhaps the only composer to compose my kind of humor" since humor is subjective. The songs I listed make me laugh.
  
  
• From: MS (@ 129.252.22.9) on: Wed May 17 13:50:05 EDT 2000
  
  How about "yaanai yaanai pattikkatu yaanai oNNu jetty pOttu varuthu paaru" from shakthi ? (In some thread I have given the full lyrics). This was by a newcomer - Anand.
  
  
• From: sk (@ beacon-ext.nus.edu.sg) on: Wed May 17 14:15:24 EDT 2000
  
  SL:
  
  When did you return? Good to see you back.
  Additions to the MSV list..
  
  malarendra mugamindru sirikkattum - kAdhalikka nEramillai
  allip pandhal kAlgaLeduththu - veNNiRa Adai
  poRandhAlum pombaLaiyA - PolicekAran magaL
  kuLu kuLu azhagenna - Bama Vijayam
  kubu kubu kubu kubu nAn engine - Motor Sundaram piLLai
  muththuk kuLikka vAReegaLA - anubavi rAjA anubavi
  AhA ennap poruththam - Ragasiya Police 115
  pOttALE unnaiyum oruththi peththu - Lakshmi kalyANam
  nAn poRandhadhu thanjAvooru mElakkOttaiyilE - en thambi
  pOdach chonnA pOttukkiREn - poovA thalaiyA
  Hello my darling ippO kAdhal vandhAchchu - engirundhO vandhAL
  uththaravindri uLLE vA - uththaravindri uLLE vA
  angamuththu thangamuththu thaNNikku pOnALAm - thangaikkAga
  alankAram pOdhumadi - Mr. Sampath
  theriyAdhO nOkku theriyAdhO - sooriyakAnthi
  rAjaveedhi bavani enbadhu - anbE AruyirE
  nEtroru mEnakai - manmadha leelai
  pattaththu rAjAvum pattALa sippAyum - meenava naNban
  Hello my dear doctor - General Chakravarthy
  sambO siva sambO - ninaiththAlE inikkum
  
  There are many more in the KVM list also.
  
  
• From: bb (@ rochester-51.slip.uiuc.edu) on: Wed May 17 14:50:53 EDT 2000
  
  i heard the song "appappaa naan appanalladaa" and was struck by its beauty. a real gem.
  
  
• From: csg (@ 202.144.10.93) on: Thu May 18 04:12:44 EDT 2000
  
  hey cram, why these guys are quoting arr,sar,and other music directors here, please ask them to get out.one more to the list is "marugo marugo" in sathi leelavathi where after every pallavi you can hear a note, it is like tapping a glass of water with a spoon.ONLY RAJA CAN DO THIS.HATS OFF
  
  
• From: pg (@ gate02.merck-medco.com) on: Thu May 18 11:55:51 EDT 2000
  
  Yes,
  Nobody can tap a glass of water with a spoon...
  
  
• From: pg (@ gate02.merck-medco.com) on: Thu May 18 12:00:51 EDT 2000
  
  csg:
  summa kindal, NOM
  
  
• From: Udhaya (@ 209.36.218.162) on: Thu May 18 12:21:15 EDT 2000
  
  csg,
  Perhaps cram can teach you some of his manners and skills of observation too. If this thread is titled, "IR's humorous compositions", you wouldn't see posts about other MDs. But the title, "Ilayaraaja - perhaps the only composer to compose for humor" begs proof otherwise.
  
  
• From: cram (@ 206.103.12.102) on: Fri May 19 04:05:43 EDT 2000
  
  hi udhaya,
  i've already given csg a piece of my mind on how decorum needs to be maintained in this forum. i'm sure he has got the point.
  
  
  
• From: csg (@ 202.144.10.93) on: Fri May 19 04:37:32 EDT 2000
  
  udhaya, iam sorry for being harsh but if you read from the thread from first you can see that the topic is going out of way,anyways iam sorry again for being harsh.
  
  
• From: csg (@ 202.144.10.93) on: Fri May 19 04:38:59 EDT 2000
  
  pg i meant tapping the glass not the water with the spoon,i know that you will not not any special noise by chumma tapping the water with the spoon.
  
  
• From: eden (@ ) on: Sat Jul 1 01:13:14 EDT 2000
  
  revive:-)
  Since the exclusive thread on humor (dhjkls..) is not seen in the archive, this may serve as an alternate:-)
  
  
• From: eden (@ 61.1.250.141) on: Sat Jul 1 01:15:37 EDT 2000
  
  Except the song `engirundhAlum vAzhka', almost all of AL Raghavan numbers fall in this category...Any one remembers `vAzhaiththandu pOla udambu alEk'?
  
  
• From: eden (@ 61.1.250.141) on: Sat Jul 1 01:24:12 EDT 2000
  
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• From: kuganeshwara rao sukumaran (@ ) on: Mon Feb 19 23:41:08 EST 2001
  
  please send me nokia composer the song of duet,
  "en kathale en kathale"
  
  thank you,
  
  

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