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Lagaan for Oscars; New Horizons for ARR?

Topic started by WhyNot (@ 203.24.100.131) on Sun Nov 4 10:51:50 EST 2001.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

Lagaan has been unanimously chosen as India's entry for Oscars Foreign Film Category for 2002. It beat Monsoon Weddings and Asoka. Though this is not the first ARR movie to be chosen, with Jeans selected in 98, this is definitely a more credible choice.
Will this mark a new beginning or open up newer horizons for ARR? As ALW's Bombay Dreams is more a Broadway production, this may introduce ARR to Hollywood in a big way. Or will Lagaan just find itself piled in the garbage can, following the very first round of selections, as all past Indian entries have?

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• From: WhyNot (@ ) on: Mon Dec 31 18:36:05 EST 2001
  
  Source: The Hindu
  
  Aamir Khan's new year gift
  
  KABUL, DEC. 31. The Bollywood actor Mr. Aamir Khan, has given a new year's gift to the battle-weary people of Afghanistan - a print of his latest blockbuster, `Lagaan', being presented to the interim President, Mr. Hamid Karzai here.
  
  The print of the movie was handed over by India's special envoy, Mr. S. K. Lambah, when he called on the Afghan President here yesterday.
  
  - PTI
  
  
• From: WhyNot (@ ) on: Mon Jan 21 06:56:53 EST 2002
  
  Golden Globes Results:
  "Monsoon Wedding dies a Silent Death...
  
  Best Foreign Language Film
  No Man's Land, Bosnia "
  Source: Sify Movies (http://movies.sify.com)
  
  I guess that should temporarily suspend Mira Nair's accusations.
  
  
• From: WhyNot (@ ) on: Sun Feb 10 07:41:17 EST 2002
  
  ""The Hindi blockbuster Lagaan has made it to the list of top eight films for this year's prestigious Oscar Awards, the film's director cum producer Aamir Khan said here on Friday.
  
  "Lagaan was officially screened for the jury on January 27 and the feedback we have is that it has made among the top eight films and has been highly appreciated," Khan told reporters at the launch of a comic book based on the film.
  
  "All our efforts have paid as the film has gone down well", he said and thanked the director Ashutosh Gowarikar for teaming up with him during the campaign in the US""
  
  So at least Lagaan didn't get shut down within first 20 minutes as feared, despite its length.
  
  For links to the above article:
  http://www.hindustantimes.com/nonfram/080202/dlnat26.asp
  http://www.expressindia.com/fullstory.php?newsid=7319
  
  
• From: magix (@ 203.199.248.167) on: Sun Feb 10 10:21:53 EST 2002
  
  yeah i agree, lagaan is the best film i've ever seen. ARR has done brilliantly well.
  
  btw, how's this connected to tfm?
  
  
• From: WhyNot (@ 203.24.100.137) on: Sun Feb 10 19:58:38 EST 2002
  
  Connected to tfm cos ARR is a tfm MD primarily (jus like there were tonnes of threads here for IR's outside-tfm ventures)
  
  
• From: Rajesh (@ 203.126.40.254) on: Mon Feb 11 02:49:02 EST 2002
  
  This is what Times of India website has to say. The link is http://www.timesofindia.com/articleshow.asp?art_ID=507915
  
  Relevant portion of the article is also pasted here
  
  However, apart from the Best Foreign Film category, Lagaan is vying for the golden statuette in 12 other sections. These are the Best Film, Best Director, Best Actor, Best Actress, Best Supporting Actor, Best Supporting Actress, Best Cinematography, Best Art Direction, Best Sound Design, Best Costume, Best Editing, and the Best Original Screenplay. ‘‘And it deserves to win in some of these categories which are of remarkable quality,’’ says Komal Nahta of a trade guide.
  
  Does that mean that music of lagaan is not Oscar worthy? If that is the case, are we discussing something wrong?
  
  
• From: ML (@ 195.93.34.171) on: Mon Feb 11 13:17:50 EST 2002
  
  Connected to tfm cos ARR is a tfm MD primarily -
  you mean-was a tfm MD?
  
  
• From: WhyNot (@ 203.24.100.132) on: Tue Feb 12 08:38:13 EST 2002
  
  Lagaan nominated for foreign film category.
  Look out for more details!!!
  
  
• From: Logic Gates (@ 192.11.223.116) on: Tue Feb 12 08:53:08 EST 2002
  
  The 5 nominations for Oscar in foreign film category being:
  
  AMÉLIE
  ELLING
  LAGAAN
  NO MAN'S LAND
  SON OF THE BRIDE
  
  This is what the official oscar site sez about lagaan:
  
  FILM SYNOPSIS
  When an Indian community complains to its local British official
  about the excessive tax, or "lagaan," they are being charged, the
  official challenges the local people to a cricket match. If they can
  win the match, the lagaan will be dropped for three years; if they
  lose, however, they must pay triple.
  
  
  ACADEMY AWARDS HISTORY
  This is the third Academy Award nomination for India. Previous
  nominations were:
  
  SALAAM BOMBAY! (1988) -- Nominee, Foreign Language Film
  
  MOTHER INDIA (1957) -- Nominee, Foreign Language Film
  
  
  
  Too bad that there is no award in the category of "Best Music in a Foreign Language Film" :o(
  
  
  
• From: WhyNot (@ 203.24.100.132) on: Tue Feb 12 08:53:40 EST 2002
  
  LAGAAN has been nominated for FOREIGN LANGUAGE FILM category along with
  
  AMÉLIE
  ELLING
  NO MAN'S LAND
  SON OF THE BRIDE
  
  http://www.oscar.com/nominees/nominees_index.html
  
  Is this cool or what!?!
  
  
• From: S (@ 128.107.253.44) on: Tue Feb 12 08:58:32 EST 2002
  
  Did crouching tiger Hidden dragon get the awards in the regular category ???
  Tan dun got the award for music, right ?
  
  
• From: WhyNot (@ 203.24.100.132) on: Tue Feb 12 09:05:50 EST 2002
  
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  The above guys...your predictions that Lagaan stood a good chance for an Oscar nomination came true! Congratulations. :-)
  
  
• From: WhyNot (@ 203.24.100.132) on: Tue Feb 12 09:34:25 EST 2002
  
  btw, Lagaan & the other 4 movies beat 46 other countries for the Nominees List, the largest number of films ever entered for the competition. For the other submitted films, visit:
  http://www.oscars.org/press/pressreleases/01.11.19.html
  
  There have been many queries regarding Lagaan getting nominated for other categories. A foreign film is eligible for submission for most other categories, provided it satisfies the terms & conditions for those categories as well.
  
  An excerpt from the link given above:
  ""Five films have won both the Foreign Language Film Oscar and another award as well: 1998's winner, "Life Is Beautiful," also received the best actor award for its star, Roberto Benigni and the music award for Best Original Dramatic Score; the 1963 winner, "81/2," also won an Oscar for Best Costume Design; "A Man and a Woman" (1966) also won the Best Original Screenplay Oscar; and "Z," in 1969, also won for Film Editing. "Fanny and Alexander" (1983) won Oscars for Costume Design, Cinematography and Art Direction.""
  and last year's best foreign film winner, "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon" also won the Achievement in music (Original score) award.
  
  So as you can see, winning in other categories is not a regular occurence.
  As you can see from Rajesh' post, Lagaan had been submitted for 12 different categories, but made it for the most important one. :-) But I always thought that it was jus a marketing strategy to get Lagaan noticed, more than anything else.
  
  However, you have to admit that getting this far is indeed a big deal (after 14 years).
  
  And this is a "pucca-Indian film" (courtesy of Trend) which stretches for 3hours40minutes or something, complete with unpruned song sequences :-) (when Hey Ram was submitted last year, the songs were removed for the Oscar viewing).
  
  >>>Does that mean that music of lagaan is not Oscar worthy? If that is the case, are we discussing something wrong?<<<<
  Rajesh, I wudn't say that at all.
  In the eyes of a western audience, Lagaan is a musical and hence, ARR's role is strikingly obvious irrespective of specific nominations for music.
  
  I wud say it is a time for all tfm fans to join hands in celebration. :-)
  [don't ask me why tfm again]
  
  
• From: suresh (@ 202.88.155.34) on: Tue Feb 12 10:33:21 EST 2002
  
  http://www.rediff.com/entertai/2002/feb/12oscar1.htm
  
  
• From: Common Friend (@ 203.197.141.179) on: Tue Feb 12 11:32:25 EST 2002
  
  Great new.
  
  Hope an Indian film win this time.
  
  Hope ALL the Indians and film lovers here will appriciate this.
  
  
  
  
• From: A.A (@ 203.199.248.194) on: Tue Feb 12 12:37:52 EST 2002
  
  COME ON...When they show Lagaan clipping at Awards function hall certainly ARR,S music will be there as part of that film clipping...Proud moment for a tamil film M.M. and his fans....Hats OFF...
  Thanks Why not A.A.
  
  
• From: a.a (@ 203.199.248.194) on: Tue Feb 12 12:39:02 EST 2002
  
  Sorry....Proud moment for tamil film M.D.
  
  
• From: S (@ 128.107.253.44) on: Wed Feb 13 04:48:09 EST 2002
  
  this dude has spent $200,000 for the publicity ! Goodness me !! Hope he gets it after all this...
  
  
• From: Common Friend (@ 203.197.141.179) on: Wed Feb 13 11:03:01 EST 2002
  
  >>>this dude has spent $200,000 for the publicity ! Goodness me !! Hope he gets it after all this...
  
  I think that has paid off and pay off in the future too (as money atleast). In india if they rerelease this film again, you will find crowd for at least a month. AK can cash.
  
  
• From: WhyNot (@ 203.24.100.137) on: Wed Feb 13 11:16:59 EST 2002
  
  I agree Common Friend. I'd call it a smart business move and a good investment.
  
  
• From: kachra (@ 144.9.158.87) on: Wed Feb 13 12:46:20 EST 2002
  
  Guys,
  Want to speculate on which clipping for Lagaan will be shown at Oscars?
  
  
• From: WhyNot (@ 203.24.100.137) on: Wed Feb 13 12:50:42 EST 2002
  
  That's an interesting thought kachra.
  Some part of the match maybe?
  I doubt very much it'll be some part of a song tho. :-)
  i wonder whether it'll be one which has some striking bgm going on, tho now i dont wanna sound like an obsessed arr fan. :-)
  
  
• From: Shankar (@ 128.107.253.44) on: Thu Feb 14 04:25:44 EST 2002
  
  i wud expect the "lagaan 11" scene...where these guys give a defiant look at the english captain when their team is complete (the score there is the chorus that comes in the lagaan theme)...that gives the essence of the movie, doesn't it ?
  
  
• From: a.a (@ 203.199.248.248) on: Thu Feb 14 08:08:29 EST 2002
  
  Ameer is clever He would give the clipping where the English Lady is coaching the villagers for the match event....Long shots with apt BGM by ARR.
  
  

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