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Shankar-Ehsaan-Loy can be brought to TFM

Topic started by Jay (@ 203.124.234.166) on Tue Jan 28 01:28:13 EST 2003.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

Remember the Music Director trio Shankar-Ehsaan-Loy, the music directors of Kamal Hassan's Alavandhaan. They seem to be missing in the Tamil scene for the last 2 years and they are doing really good in the Hindi field. They have given solid musical hits in Hindi such as; Mission Kashmir, Dil Chahtha Hai. I think they can be brought to the Tamil films again. I feel they are definitely better than Deva and a few others. I think they are the best as far as Hindi Film Music goes after A R Rahman.

I would like healthy comments who listen to Shankar-Ehsaan-Loy and have a fair knowledge of Hindi Film Industry.

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• From: Ehsaan (@ 202.68.150.4) on: Wed Jan 14 21:14:35 EST 2004
  
  hi oisg we dont use an arranger i am sure rahman doesnt use an arranger either. anu malik does use an arranger. mr srinivas murthy is our orchestrator not our arranger. i think naveen has a strong identity in his playing and that is very important that him playing with different music directors will make their songs sound the same.i havent heard the music of baba so i have no idea.the idea of using pretty woman was concieved by karan johar.
  
  
• From: Ehsaan (@ 202.68.150.4) on: Wed Jan 14 21:18:34 EST 2004
  
  hi somu most award functions are highly political and are huge media events . as much as one like to win awards one cant take them too seriously. as u know india has some 5 or 6 award functions every year. jury 's choose music etc on a highly subjective basis and sometimes the best work gets left out.even javed akhtar has not been nominated for his lyrics of kal ho na ho .
  
  
• From: Vijoy Shekhar (@ 193.188.97.152) on: Thu Jan 15 00:56:04 EST 2004
  
  Hi Ehsaan,
  
  Firstly, whats the difference between an arranger and an orchestrator?
  
  Secondly, how much influence can an arranager have on the outvoe of a song?
  
  Thirdly, are you giving music for "Shafaq" starring Mammooty????
  
  Thanks and Please reply
  
  
• From: Ehsaan (@ 202.68.150.4) on: Thu Jan 15 05:42:18 EST 2004
  
  an orchestrator is a musician who adapts a composition for particular voices or instruments or for another style of performance. in western terms an arranger is almost the same. in an indian context an arranger composed music sections and adds his touch to a composition hence a lot of indian composers sound the same. IR , Rahman , SEL do not use arrangers
  
  
• From: somu (@ 209.191.169.43) on: Thu Jan 15 11:57:09 EST 2004
  
  Eshaan
  
  thanks for replying and letting us know the above points. Yes I agree with you the awards are highly political. I would be happy if you win the FF award at least. For others who still beleive in Screen award (which lost its prestige a lot already) this year results
  
  Himesh Reshammiya has Won "Best Music" Award for Tere Naam.
  JAVED Saab has won BEST LYRICS Award for "EK SAATHI AUR BHI THA -LOC."
  Kailash Kher has won "Best Playback Singer" Award (Male) for Allah Ke Bande - WBHH-II
  Shreya Goshal has won "Best Playback Singer" Award (Female) for Jaadoo Hai Nasha Hai - JISM
  
  Question is did anyone here listened to the song from WBHH-II yet? I did not and tonight I will listen to it. I heared that he sang in ARR Rising movie.
  
  
• From: Vijoy Shekhar (@ 193.188.97.152) on: Sat Jan 17 00:46:56 EST 2004
  
  
  Dear Ehsaan,
  
  Whats the most diffcult part? composing the music or doing the orchestration?
  Nowadays, the basic tunes almost remain the same with different orchestration, so is the orchestartor more important?
  
  
• From: Saravanan (@ 217.165.50.169) on: Sat Jan 17 01:34:54 EST 2004
  
  Somu- Allah ke Bandhe is a very different song, sung very well by Kailash Kher. It starts with 'Toota toota ek parinda', and 'allah ke bandhe has de allah ke bandhe' is the refrain that keeps cropping up at the end of each verse. Minimum orchestration, with the vocals given prominence--great philosophical lyrics too.
  
  
• From: Ehsaan (@ 202.68.150.4) on: Sat Jan 17 10:05:25 EST 2004
  
  i think composition is the toughest because thats where the challenge lies.
  
  
• From: Vijoy Shekhar (@ 193.188.97.152) on: Sun Jan 18 01:51:25 EST 2004
  
  Ehsaan, but dont compositions tend to be pretty similar nowadays? I mean a dance number, a punjabi number, a love song...dont the compositions, irrespective of the MDs sound a bit repetitive?
  
  Also, what the influence of classical Raagas in the current Hindi film music? Do you depend on Raagas for your music?
  
  
• From: Ehsaan (@ 202.68.150.4) on: Sun Jan 18 13:09:34 EST 2004
  
  the compositions are based on the requirement of the film if you listen to our soundtrack for alavandaan u will see what i mean it has a completely different genre of music.
  indirectly all compositions amount to some raaga or the other , yes one does depend on ragaas in sme instances.
  
  
• From: Vijoy Shekhar (@ 193.188.97.152) on: Mon Jan 19 00:34:29 EST 2004
  
  Ehsaan, Can you give some examples of your songs based on Raagas?
  Also, how much dependent are MDs on keerthanas?
  
  
• From: Mirage (@ 128.107.253.41) on: Mon Jan 19 00:35:48 EST 2004
  
  Hi Ehsaan!
  A small piece of advice reqd here.
  
  I am a 23 yr old who can sing. I did learn carnatic music for 9 years quite early in my life. But now have not been in touch for quite sometime, for the last 8-9 yrs. I am planning to restart my vocal trainings.
  
  What do u suggest me to take up? My main objective is to be a good singer and not a mainstream classical musician. Will learning western classical help?
  
  Expecting ur reply when u r free.
  
  Thanks!
  
  
• From: Ehsaan (@ 202.68.150.4) on: Mon Jan 19 00:50:30 EST 2004
  
  Hi Mirage I would really suggest that u get back to you classical training be it indian or western. both are disciplines which require a lot of time commintment and if u can work out a balance between both then i would suggest studying both. my suggestion to be an all round singer is to listen to all kinds of singers ranging from indian classical / film to western opera and classical to blues and jazz. the best training in addition to you formal music training is to listen.
  
  
• From: Mirage (@ 128.107.253.41) on: Mon Jan 19 04:30:10 EST 2004
  
  Thanks for ur response Ehsaan!
  
  There was a slight hesitation initially from my side whether I shud be joining western vocal training. Now that u have also voiced out it to be a good option, I am going to take a second dip in vocals :-)
  
  Thanks Ehsaan!
  
  
• From: paran (@ 203.123.16.168) on: Mon Jan 19 05:08:44 EST 2004
  
  Hi Guys...
  join us at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/shankarehsaanloy/
  
  
• From: Vijoy Shekhar (@ 193.188.97.152) on: Thu Jan 22 04:25:11 EST 2004
  
  Dear Ehsaan,
  
  what are the different processes in getting a song done? Can you pls give a brief idea on how its all done?
  How long does it take to get a song done?
  
  
  
• From: Ehsaan (@ 202.68.150.4) on: Sat Jan 24 07:56:33 EST 2004
  
  hi vijoy first we listen to the entire script and get an idea as to what the song situations are. we then sit and bounce idea off the director and lyricist ( normally somewhere out of town) we spned anything between 4 days to 6 days per song not counting the mixing time.
  
  
• From: Ehsaan (@ 202.68.150.4) on: Sat Jan 24 07:56:52 EST 2004
  
  hi vijoy first we listen to the entire script and get an idea as to what the song situations are. we then sit and bounce idea off the director and lyricist ( normally somewhere out of town) we spned anything between 4 days to 6 days per song not counting the mixing time.
  
  
• From: Vijoy Shekhar (@ 193.188.97.152) on: Sun Jan 25 05:13:18 EST 2004
  
  Dear Ehsaan,
  
  How long does the mixing take?
  
  
  
• From: Jacky (@ 61.1.202.87) on: Sun Jan 25 07:13:55 EST 2004
  
  Ehsaan,
  How acceptable are the similarities between your song Koi kahe from DCH and ennai konjam matri from the Tamil movie Kakha Kakha?
  
  
• From: Ehsaan (@ 202.68.150.4) on: Sun Jan 25 08:00:52 EST 2004
  
  Hi Jacky I havent heard this song Ennai Konjam Matri that u are talking about
  
  
• From: Jacky (@ 61.1.201.11) on: Sun Jan 25 08:52:03 EST 2004
  
  Hi Ehsaan,
  Sure you must hear it cuz i believe it is highly inspired from your number Koi kahe.
  Probably Shankar would have heard it already.
  
  
• From: Ehsaan (@ 202.68.150.4) on: Sun Jan 25 09:46:07 EST 2004
  
  No idea Jacky Shankar hanst told me about it who composed the song ?
  
  
• From: SEL Fan (@ 128.107.253.41) on: Mon Jan 26 00:22:27 EST 2004
  
  It was composed by Harris Jayaraj!
  
  Btw, have u by any chance, got an opportunity to work together with him?
  
  
• From: selrocks (@ 61.247.244.78) on: Mon Jan 26 02:16:13 EST 2004
  
  hello ehsaanji...
  
  I dont find any kind of similarity between Koi Kahe and Ennai Konjam maatri. but rahman's sa re ga me starting from boys seems to be inspired from your 'koi kahe' from DCH. the sounds/feel i the same. jus a doubt...how did you manage to get such sounds??...were the sounds created by you...or it is an 'available' sound??
  
  
  
• From: selrocks (@ 61.247.244.78) on: Mon Jan 26 02:18:15 EST 2004
  
  infact, ennai konjam matri song seems to be inspired by Michael Jackson's BAD.
  
  
• From: Ehsaan (@ 202.68.150.4) on: Mon Jan 26 08:21:30 EST 2004
  
  hi it was a sound created by us
  hi SEL Fan i have met Harris but somehow being 2 music directors i am not sure if we will work together unless it is some kind of collaboration.
  
  
• From: jacky (@ 61.1.200.198) on: Mon Jan 26 14:45:54 EST 2004
  
  Ehsaan
  when time permits hear the song - you will be the best person to say if it has any shades of your number, my idea is - it does have.
  
  

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