Topic started by Vijay Venkatram J (@ 203.197.154.154) on Sat May 12 07:18:29 EDT 2001.
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Hi Friends,
It's time we recognised that IR is the only person who gives equal importance to comedy as an emotion and as a song situation. Just have a ear at these songs which though convey a sense of comedy have great compositional skills. In fact, IR is the first and only person till now who broke the feeling, "comedy paattukku idhu podhum" and brought it to the center stage:
1) Maamaavukku Kuduma - Punnagai Mannan
2) En Pathiramaathu - En Bommukutti Ammavukku
3) Mappillai Mappillai - Paasap Paravaigal
4) Namma Boss - Naangal
5) Gundu Onnu - Arangetra Velai
6) Ooru Vittu - Karagaattakkaaran
7) Anne Anne - Kozhi Koovuthu
8) Pachaiyappa - Thendral Varum Theru
9) Maamanukku - Velaikkaaran
10) Summa Thodavum - Mudhal Vasantham
and many more etc., etc.,.......
Can we discuss this in detail?
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Responses:
- From: Kavita (@ 202.9.161.68)
on: Sat May 12 08:06:55 EDT 2001
PLEASE CHAGE THE TITLE ITS HURTING.
KAVITA
- From: KAVITA (@ 202.9.161.68)
on: Sat May 12 08:21:45 EDT 2001
READ CHANGE
- From: KAVITA (@ 202.9.161.68)
on: Sat May 12 08:24:28 EDT 2001
SORRY
- From: Vijay Venkatram J (@ 203.197.154.154)
on: Sat May 12 08:39:53 EDT 2001
Kavita,
Why should I change the title? I think you misunderstood me. I am glorifying IR and not defaming Him. A comedian is a person who makes us laugh by His work. IR makes us laugh in His comedy songs even without the picture. If it is right we can call Kamal a comedian for his acting in Michael Madhana Kamarajan and Thenali, it is right to call IR a comedian too!
What do you all say?
- From: Sangeeth (@ 172.175.24.19)
on: Sat May 12 09:02:02 EDT 2001
His interviews are more hilarious than his comedy songs-long live the comedian
- From: KAVITA (@ 202.9.161.68)
on: Sat May 12 09:43:18 EDT 2001
sorry i can't accept ur argument.the tittle should've been IR KING OF COMIC SITUATIONS.
KAVITA
- From: kavita (@ 202.9.161.68)
on: Sat May 12 10:28:16 EDT 2001
sangeeth
admire ir for music.
- From: Neel (@ 64.3.196.116)
on: Sat May 12 11:53:01 EDT 2001
Vijay,
The comic effect comes from the lyrics. The tune is just the usual dappaaankuthu.
My contribution:
Pacha moLagA athu kAram illa - from Mr.Bharath - Late Viji's dance number.
- From: Vijay Venkatram J (@ 202.54.33.169)
on: Sat May 12 12:21:19 EDT 2001
Neel:
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Mere lyrics cannot provide a comical effect for a song of this kind of situation. I can quote a number of examples with very good comical lyrics where other MD's, while facing a similar situation, have deliberately reduced the standard of the tune thinking, "comedy paattu thaane"! But my arguement is that IR never ignores such situations.
"The tune is just the usual dappaaankuthu"
Aiya, Ungalukku manasatchi irukka?
Can you call "Maamavukku Kuduma","Gundu Onnu", etc musically inferior songs by way of composition to any other standard IR song?
Do you think all comical numbers are dappanguthu? Probably, based on situation, you can say "Thanni Thotti" from Sindhu Bairavi is a Dappanguthu! But even that song bears a typical Rajamuthirai.
You must listen to the songs carefully before commenting. Listen to the flow of the interludes which are by mood itself very hilarious. You will then understand!
- From: Neel (@ 64.3.196.57)
on: Sat May 12 17:03:15 EDT 2001
:-(
You are right. They are not all dappaankuthu. I take it back.
"Enna samaiyalO" - semiclassical.
"Maamaavukku kuduma" - pop.
"pOdA pOdA puNNaakku" - folk.
Please award me back my manasaatchi.
- From: sats (@ 38.30.92.243)
on: Sat May 12 23:41:56 EDT 2001
mr vijay
pl change the title
i thought it was another IR bashing thread
- From: Vijay Venkatram J (@ 202.54.33.168)
on: Sun May 13 14:40:49 EDT 2001
Sats:
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I have already explained the reason for naming the thread so in my previous posting. I or anyone for that matter cannot change the name of any thread after it is started as per newtfmpage provisions. I hope people know this fact. But I still say that I am justified in naming the thread and I am glorifying IR in contrary to what you all think!
- From: Sugrutha (@ 65.11.240.45)
on: Sun May 13 16:41:59 EDT 2001
If you notice IR's background music for comedy sequences one will realise what a great sense of humour he has and how well he is able to use his music to express his humour.
- From: Vijay Venkatram J (@ 202.54.33.168)
on: Sun May 13 16:56:58 EDT 2001
Sugrutha:
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Hi! That was the next topic I was trying to touch and you have done it before me!
Can we ever forget the BGM for Goundamani-Senthil in Karakaattakkaaran? In fact that lifted up the humour content in the scene a lot, IMO! The introduction of the characters itself when they enter the village with an old car will be humourous due to the BGM!
Other examples to follow!
- From: kk (@ 172.163.201.91)
on: Sun May 13 22:23:32 EDT 2001
Vijay,
I can remember that tune. It was used in sun tv for comedy varam and also some other comedy program.
How about the song in Thooral ninupochu?
En soga kathaye kelu thaikulame...
- From: Athi (@ 24.182.219.105)
on: Sun May 13 22:33:16 EDT 2001
I wanted to mention the movie Naane Raaja Naane Manthiri which is the only comedy movie of Vijayakant I think and you have to see the movie to enjoy the BGM. That movie came in 85 I think and I have seen it many times just for some memorable BGM pieces.
Also Aan Paavam has some memorable BGM pieces in comical situations.
Athi
- From: raja (@ 62.253.128.8)
on: Mon May 14 18:55:38 EDT 2001
why do you people split and analyse every thing that raja has done? just enjoy and be happy. his music is wholeness in oneness.
- From: peeps (@ 202.54.89.80)
on: Tue May 15 11:58:41 EDT 2001
IR usually watches the film once and the next day he sits for the backgroundmusic...I read this somewhere...
No where his background music looks odd...This indicates that he loves watching movies and involves into it deeply..Because if u think of composing a song to a situation,even if the tune is not perfectly matching the situation listners wont find it very odd...But background music can be composed only if u fit into that situation and have a feel of it..Raja is great in that aspect...
Yesterday i had a chance to watch MichaelMadhanaKamarajan in RAJ TV ...wow...What a background music for a great comdey film...
- From: Vijay Venkatram J (@ 202.54.33.175)
on: Wed May 16 11:46:23 EDT 2001
Good posting, Peeps!
- From: peeps (@ 203.197.174.1)
on: Wed May 16 11:47:57 EDT 2001
Thanks Vijay...:-)
- From: Vijay Venkatram J (@ 203.197.154.218)
on: Wed May 16 14:33:58 EDT 2001
Friends,
What about the BGM in comedy sequences in "Mudhal Mariyaadhai"? Esp. when Nadigar Thilagam lifts the stone? It is one of my all time favourites! Comments please!
- From: Raghuvir (@ 202.144.64.150)
on: Wed May 23 10:39:37 EDT 2001
Kavitha - Truth is always bitter.
IR definitely had a good orchestra to play for comedy sequences as a MD.
But the way he composes and speaks in public and press of late, makes the thread true!
I think he is not a full 'gnani' of Thiruvannamalai, because he is no different from other MDs who blabber unable to accept failures and flops. He has already started repeating his tunes with ARR rhythms. His melodies are not catchy, and he is self-pitying tooooo much!
He definitely needs some psychological help.
- From: Raghuvir (@ 202.144.64.150)
on: Wed May 23 10:39:48 EDT 2001
Kavitha - Truth is always bitter.
IR definitely had a good orchestra to play for comedy sequences as a MD.
But the way he composes and speaks in public and press of late, makes the thread true!
I think he is not a full 'gnani' of Thiruvannamalai, because he is no different from other MDs who blabber unable to accept failures and flops. He has already started repeating his tunes with ARR rhythms. His melodies are not catchy, and he is self-pitying tooooo much!
He definitely needs some psychological help.
- From: Vijay Venkatram J (@ 203.197.154.32)
on: Wed May 23 22:47:26 EDT 2001
Raghuvir:
You are really crossing the limit. What do you know of Tiruvannamalai? Or for that question, what do you know about IR as a human being? If you have the guts, mail me and we shall have a real arguement. You must not comment without knowing the history. Unga Anti-IR velaya ellaam Anti-IR threadsla vachikunga. This is for discussing His comedy music.
He is the only Gnani in TFM. You better get some more brain from somewhere to understand the thoughts of the genius which are not for low IQ fellows like you!
- From: Vijay Venkatram J (@ )
on: Mon Jun 11 15:19:30 EDT 2001
Hi all,
Just now I am returning to net after seeing a sequence from Rajadhi Raja - the place where the Rajinis meet at Nadhiya's house! Yappa! What a great musician this man (or someone above man?!) IR is? He has composed a single tune for both Rajinis but plays them with different orchestration and timing so that the one for the character "Raja" is majestic and that for "Chinrasu" is comical!
May be, Maestro is saying by music that these two guys look similar but are still different in character? IMHO, Maestro is the only person to make so many co-relations in BGM to the story!
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- From: bharath (@ 24.4.254.203)
on: Mon Jun 11 21:31:18 EDT 2001
why is this thread calling IR a comedian... does he make people laugh...
- From: bharath (@ 24.4.254.203)
on: Mon Jun 11 21:33:43 EDT 2001
vijay venkatram
dou want people tocompulsarily agree with u... is it ur opinion that IR can thrive when everyone neccesarily agrees with and that his empire will crash on a singlenote of critisism..
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