
Topic started by Sridhar Seetharaman (@ 67.83.146.59) on Mon Apr 7 15:33:24 EDT 2003.
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http://www.thiruvasakaminsymphony.com/v_eng.htm#8a
Official audio release from Ilaiyaraaja.
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- From: KK (@ 202.156.2.186)
on: Mon Dec 20 03:02:33 EST 2004
tee,
what are you trying to say with your pea-brain?!
- From: Jaiganesh (@ 203.101.103.2)
on: Mon Dec 20 05:21:46 EST 2004
For ppl with microscopic grey matter content, things that are as humungus as pea remain insurmountable!!!
pun intended! offense unintended!!
Thanks,
Jaiganesh.
http://silencerocks.blogspot.com
- From: G (@ 203.125.115.34)
on: Mon Dec 20 06:03:49 EST 2004
Dear SSSSAV,
Just look at the acrimonious language directed at the TIO Project Team in the recent postings. I do not think that you people deserve this. But why has matters come to such a state.
I think the impatient hard core IR Fans have become angered not by the long wait but more by the lack of news on the status or progress of the TIO release. Some of these fans, lacking the discipline to keep their emotions in check just let fly to give vent to their frustrations.
Some updates might have averted such postings. Even if you are not able to give definite dates, at least some information on what is happening on the matter of TIO release might have helped. It is understandable if you are not able to give regular updates, some information now and then rather than being silent and watching the heated debate from the sidelines would be better. Lack of information would lead people to speculate and come up with unreasonable scenarios and unfounded conclusions.
Dear IR Fans,
All of us have waited a long time for this momentous event. the release of TIO. Some of us or may be most of us may have become impatient and frustrated by the long wait. The silence of the TIO Project Team may have added on to our frustration. The silence should not be construed as some misdeed on their part. The wild and unsubstantiated accusations against them is uncalled for and very unfair. These people have taken on a thankless job, for which they are not paid. All for the love of IR, his music and Tamil. Please do not use their shortcomings as an excuse to run them down. This will only serve to demoralise the team and might even prevent them from giving off their best for the success of the TIO release. This should not be allowed to happen now We must not falter for we are at the finishing line.
They have their constraints, they have to balance work and family life and still find time to volunteer for the TIO Project Then there is the additional task of coordinating with the team in India before any information can be posted.
So IR Fans, let us not fire from the hip but be mature enough to be patient, understanding and appreciative of the TIO Project Team.
Please refrain from using base language to air your feelings on THIRUVASAKAM IN SYMPHONY, it is HOLY. Thank you.
- From: Jaiganesh (@ 61.2.64.83)
on: Mon Dec 20 07:59:42 EST 2004
Hi All!
I agree with every word of G's post!
TiSO is a lifetime work by IIR in his own words("Idharkaagathaan naan pirandhen!"). It is not a typical cinema album. In fact even some cinema track albums take over a year to complete. Comparing that the time taken by TiSO team and IR is worth every micrsecond in GOLD. Let us not bring down the decorum of this forum by airing irresponsible and acerbic critiques. Let us pray to the force divine that the stone melting lyrics are tuned to perfection by IR.
Thanks,
Jaiganesh
- From: thumburu (@ 161.114.64.72)
on: Mon Dec 20 08:12:52 EST 2004
JaiGanesh and G you couldn't have put it better.
I would rather wait for a refined product than a shoddy work done in haste. Definitely the post roduction work after NOV 10TH final recording needs adequate time
- From: KK (@ 202.156.2.186)
on: Mon Dec 20 08:18:53 EST 2004
G????
"for which they are not paid"
So says you and which fool is to believe. At the look of it there are many in this forum who might fall for it......
- From: isaiosai (@ 68.231.12.84)
on: Mon Dec 20 11:21:44 EST 2004
G,
Very well said. Thank you.
Most of us know the regular/genuine dfers here. And then, there are few atrocious postings from guests (sample KK's above) trying to have some fun that should be, at best, ignored!
Rather than wanting to hear regular updates that things are in progress, I would prefer all silence now to hear the final announcement about the release of this spectacular musical creation, which for sure will happen very soon (probably, in the beginning of the New Year!).
I think people who are not doing the work at this point, WE, should behave as what we can at best be - good spectators:-) Let us just behave like one and wish the TiS team the very best. All IMHO.
- From: ilaiyaraja (@ 151.201.145.28)
on: Mon Dec 20 20:19:54 EST 2004
isaiosai,
"Rather than wanting to hear regular updates that things are in progress, I would prefer all silence now to hear the final announcement about the release of this spectacular musical creation, which for sure will happen very soon "
yes sir, like waiting for the 'symphony'...
- From: Jaiganesh (@ 203.101.103.2)
on: Mon Dec 20 21:13:32 EST 2004
Hmm!
Few points to ponder..
1. Symphony was done as a pure IR project. There was no Tamil maiyyam behind IR's symphony.
2. John Scott, the conductor of Symphony #1 has said that IR did not want to release Symphony because of criticisms of some mindless critic who could not understand new ideas of IR.
3. On the other hand TiSO is a project which IR does, but not for himself , but for Tamil Maiyyam. If critics in the west do not like it, I guess Tamil Maiyyam won't bother and still go ahead with its release in Asia(in worst case scenario in South Asia atleast).
Theses are my thoughts alone. I would be glad if SSSAV and team would clarify and assure that in 1. no case TiSO can be equated to a Symphony
2. Its release is not dependant upon some certificate from any critic from the west who has no understanding of Indian Musical Moorings.
I think that alone can stop people who are chewing this issue by posting highly demoralising (atleast for me!) posts.
Thanks,
Jaiganesh
http://silencerocks.blogspot.com
- From: Jaiganesh (@ 203.101.103.2)
on: Mon Dec 20 21:17:03 EST 2004
Oops, I got a bit emotional and my spelling and formatting in the previous post has gone haywire. I request people to bear with the errors , but consider the content.
Thanks,
Jaiganesh
http://silencerocks.blogspot.com
- From: SSSSAV (@ 66.57.14.197)
on: Mon Dec 20 21:44:16 EST 2004
Jaiganesh has hit the bull's eye!!
TiO[TiS] is OUR project!
As we had said in an earlier posting, no force on earth can stop it from reaching the mass who have funded it!
The logistics are taking more than its due!
The final product is in IIr's hands and he is very particular that this should reach the people for whom it is intended asap and to be precise, by Jan 14th!!
Please bear with us and we are doing everything we can humanly possible to get this done.
Will soon meet with you all here with the happy announcement very shortly.
Till then, please be patient!
We know that this is not going to satisfy you but this is all we can say now.
'kaalam oru naal[J14] maaRum
nam kavalaikaL yaavum thherum!!'
YIA!!
- From: mnt (@ 198.73.152.99)
on: Tue Dec 21 15:01:25 EST 2004
Thanks for the update SSSSAV.
Please don't be discouraged by the vociferous few.
- From: SSSSAV (@ 199.90.34.67)
on: Tue Dec 21 15:40:57 EST 2004
There is also a message from fr. Jegath which has since been updated at http://www.tis-usa.com. Pl. check that out!
YIA!!
- From: Anand (@ 66.9.201.23)
on: Tue Dec 21 17:33:40 EST 2004
Friends and fellow Raaja devotees, I would like you to visit http://geocities.com/petta_pistha/ and listen to the 4 Jhonny BGMS I have posted and comment on them. Thanks
- From: MumbaiRamki (@ 151.148.60.180)
on: Tue Dec 21 17:49:40 EST 2004
SSSAV ,
I cannot but appreciate teh efforts of TIS team !!!!
- From: Jaiganesh (@ 203.101.103.2)
on: Tue Dec 21 21:30:42 EST 2004
Hi All!
Thanks to TiSO team for allaying my fears on the project. On the other hand, the marketing challenge that Father is mentioning is indeed a monumental one. I suggest that we should take this matter to influential political leaders who are publicly posturing to support Thamizh arts and culture!! I guess, if this project can be brought before their eye, definitely something might happen. With their connections and support base, they can push this project to fruition, provided they really care for Thamizh and its globalization. If someone from this thread knows email IDs of political parties in TN, please provide, we can mail them and inform them about this. It is an ideal opportunity to come together as Thamizh music fans!!
Thanks,
Jaiganesh
http://silencerocks.blogspot.com
- From: enabler (@ 68.75.182.20)
on: Tue Dec 21 22:26:37 EST 2004
Jaiganesh, you are the best in this forum!
Can't but help join and shower praise on you for your dedication and unbounded enthusiasm for the project. I thought almost all IR fans are in their mid 30s to late 50s in this forum, but you are in your mid 20s and it means IR has such a growing effect on the young minds. This is proof for TiO or TbI to just DO IT! what i mean is, forget politicians and other entities. Everything is a balanced approach. Too much dependence on outside forces weakens the objectives. TbI will find its way into the public eventually, and fans like you and me who are in the enlightened league of music fans will be the driving force.
Merry Christmas, Happy New Year to one and all. See you all by Pongal!!!
- From: Music_lover (@ 203.200.58.136)
on: Tue Dec 21 23:16:03 EST 2004
SSSSAV - why only SONY, UNIVERSAL and HMV - why not TIME-WARNER ? has that option been tried out ?
besides, has the TiS team tried out Mr.Kavichandran Alexander (KA) of Waterlily Acoustics, San Diego ? someone like KA will have contacts and will surely help
since time is now a constraint, please try every option possible
I am thinking with my feet firmly on the ground
- From: KK (@ 202.156.2.186)
on: Thu Dec 23 04:59:08 EST 2004
Now it is only more clear why such a delay in the release. These fellows are only talking big money, and money is the only concern. Nothing noble or selfless as Jageth and the gang have potraited to be to this forum.
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