Oscar Thamizhan 'Isaipuyal' AR Rahman News/Updates

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There is a gap..I don't intend to provoke or debate to convince you otherwise, but you seem to have missed ARR's indirect jibes, twice at IR, in the NDTV interview. Just to put it in the right perspective, please read these two snide remarks he made about IR and judge the genuiness of his good words, which could make you see some sense in what IR fans see.

ARR said:
"..not like those days..which was like a fort..they hold it and 'we are the only one'.."

Q: Singers says 'Rahman lets you do what you want', is that true?

A: If I compose a melody and they're going to struggle with that, its wasting their time and my time. But if you know the flow what they're good at, then you adapt the style of composition to their style, its much easier. I know the composers who've done that before, they'd call a musician, give them stuff which they can't play, and they would play so badly, and they would have a kind of 'sadistic' (laughs..pauses) you know 'happiness', 'see you couldn't play what I gave'. That's not my trip. My trip is music has to flow, music has to be happy, both the composer and the performer has to be happy. So, when I'm doing a song in Yaman (raagam), and I give it to Hariharan who could do anything with Yaman, you just give the basic stuff, and then stick on to the tune and they do some 'harkat' to that which is beautiful. And you start enjoying it. Thats the kind of thing. I don't say 'don't use that, that's not my composition.' I mean classical music is not like that, you can't change Bach's tune. <sings> You can't change that. It has to be like that. But when you're creating it, you're the composer, the spontaneity is the thing."

Obviously, ARR did not mean MSV there and we all know it was IR he had in mind.

http://www.ndtv.com/video/player/ndt...success/289981

Regd fort: He says when doing 12 movies an year (for how many years? and taking others' inputs), he could not give enough time for personal life, etc. IR was doing ~30+ movies per year (songs + background score) for many years. Imagine the kind of sacrifices (personal life etc.) he had to make. It was not to hold a 'fort' as ARR puts it; it was about living and breathing music as a way of life. There was no time for IR, except to compose/write music for all those ~30+ movies/year. People would go to him, and he delivered
He has not learnt soft skills even till date..so may not express/come across as sophisticated as some educated may.

Regd 'sadistic' (laughs..pauses) you know 'happiness':
1) (Re)Confirms ARR taking inputs from musicians as per his work style, which also sort of explains why he had to acknowledge various musicians on album covers (sort of co-MDed tunes/music). Not doing so would be embarassing to him..as others have contributed to the tune/song. This should put 'acknowledge various artistes on albums' in the right perspective and not mistaken as a mark of humility/selflessness (as was being projected in the past). In IR's case, all notes are his. He did acknowledge VS Narasimhan (HTNI) and Pt. Hari Prasad Chaurasia (NBW) as he regards them as highly skilled musicians - at a different level much above the ordinary.
2) Pt. Balesh (Sehnai) who plays for IR says he has been taking it as a challenge to play IRs complex notes (http://venuvanamsuka.blogspot.in/2011/04/blog-post.html).
Likewise, IR kept pushing his own limits constantly and of singers like KJY, SPB, SJ etc., resulting in giving their best output for many years. Guitar Prasanna had said that IR heightened the playing standards of TN musicians, much better than the Bollywood counterparts. All this was possible only when he gave them challenging tunes to play/sing, which they felt they probably cannot. It was like pushing to reach greater heights.

Most musicians say IR is like a master/teacher. KS Chitra told recently on a TV show that she feels like standing up even when talking over phone to people like KJY and IR (out of respect). It is obvious ARR (and semi-singer Srinivas) lack any such respect, and did/do not want to consider IR along the lines of that 'strict' 'master'. Young blood you see , so understandable and fair enough. But, carrying that hurt/ego for over 20-25 years? So, much for 'humility' and 'ego'!! (SJ Surya has joined the club too )

And so, semi-singer Srinivas could not take it that way, failed in the movie/music industry, and goes around making snide remarks every now-and-then on IR (even when praising ARR). It only shows semi-singer Srinivas and ARR's 'sadistic (laughs..pauses) you know happiness' remarks are a result of their hurt/ego some 20-25 years back when they were kids 'growing up'. This clip sums it up http://www.tubechop.com/watch/1466962

IR is very disciplined and gives some leeway to some who have proved themselves..like legends KJY/SB/PS/SJ..who were not teenage kids 'growing up'.

"I mean classical music is not like that, you can't change Bach's tune. <sings> You can't change that. It has to be like that.":
That is what ARR thinks. But for IR, even when singing Idhayam Oru Kovil with only his harmonium as the accompaniment, he did not change the tune or make improvisations to it, even when singing in front of his fans (on their adhoc request) during a recent film music composing session done in front of the public. That, staying true to his compositions, for IR is plain discipline..at 70 years. Probably just another trait of a genius called IR!

Having known IR for over 25 years now, it is unfortunate that ARR terms such a discipline towards music and a genius as 'sadistic' (laughs..pauses) you know 'happiness'. KJY/SPB and others did not think so. So much for being 'humble' and labelling the other as egoistic/sadistic!

As another fan said elsewhere, IR "would not just go away" for the genius that he is..and ARR did open up a little after all these years.

Competitions or not, beyond all that, we still get to hear IR's pure music when opportunity provides itself, his latest, Original Score from Mysskin's Onayum Aatukuttiyum: http://www.lonewolfproductions.in/downloadbgm.jsp
Listen to #8 Walking through Life and Death and decide if it is 'sadistic' happiness or the happiness of bringing up our local orchestra to world class. He need not credit others on album covers as each and every note is Raaja's/IR's music (like Bach's tune). The album is the finest WCM from India, but it has Raaja's stamp all over it. That is IR's music

Based on the 'fort' and 'sadistic' comment of ARR, it is up to you fans to deduce the genuineness behind those praises/unwanted remarks.

[PS: Wanted to keep it short initially, but turned bigger mentioning some details. Sorry about that. Like I said in the beginning, I don't intend to provoke or debate to convince you otherwise.]