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21st January 2006, 04:33 AM
#241
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In annai vELaanganni "temple", several Hindus go and pray.
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21st January 2006 04:33 AM
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21st January 2006, 04:38 AM
#242
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Originally Posted by
stranger
In annai vELaanganni "temple", several Hindus go and pray.
Hindus pray in Nagore durgaa also!
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21st January 2006, 04:51 AM
#243
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uNmai uNmai, raj!
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21st January 2006, 10:37 AM
#244
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Originally Posted by
rajraj
Hindus pray in Nagore durgaa also!
Wow! Surprised to hear tat!
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21st January 2006, 08:30 PM
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Re: larte-hearted and exemplary
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21st January 2006, 08:35 PM
#246
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Re: larte-hearted and exemplary
Originally Posted by
bis_mala
In India Christianity and Islam has always been accommodated, but not integrated. Why they are not integrated? Are we large hearted enough to accept that we are all "kafirs" or that our believes will "take us to hell". Large heartedness doesnt mean allowing others to "piss on our head".
According to uncle Sudhamaa, it must be large-hearted and exemplary for the entire mankind. We are supposed to isolate, bring up and examine such issues/items in Indian heritage.
On closer scrutiny, I would say that India's constitution also clearly guarantees religious freedom and no religion is stated as official religion.
Hence no religious majority accommodates another in a situation where all of them are equal.
Indian literature contains books on Islam and Christianity too. I do not know of books written in other languages, but in Tamil there are books (poetry) and epics of Christianity and Islam too. There are more Churches and Mosques in India than even in Christian and Muslim countries. India has a larger population of Muslims than many Muslim counties themselves.
Muslims and Christians in India are people of India who originated there.
It is a well-known fact that religions do not accommodate one another and one would claim the other to be in error. But we have to bear in mind that we on the subject of Indian Heritage and not Hindu or Vedic or Christian or Muslim Heritage. “ Vedic or Hindu “ is Indian (and also Nepalese) but not everything Indian is “Vedic or Hindu”.
Please note Hindu culture is not confined to India alone though it may have originated in India. A former Thai Prime Minister said: “We (Thais) are in so many ways Hindu”. An former Indonesian President visiting India told Vajpayee on an official function:” So much of our Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian language) is Sanskrit and so much of our culture is Hindu based” Many Indonesian writers say that though they ceased to be Hindus and become (majority) Muslims, their cultural substratum is Hindu.(Read works of research scholars and PhD) thesis by Indonesian ). The name “Indonesia” announces it openly. Whilst foreign heritages had also become part of Indian Heritage, one must note that Indian Heritage has also extended far beyond its borders (projected influence).
For the reasons stated, I would consider Christianity and Islam fully integrated in Indian heritage. Pleae comment.
Above post is not at all accurate. Christianity did not emerge until Roman times, and Islam is mostly Muhammed's interpretation of Judaism. One can look at the biography of Muhammed and see he was a caravan driver who had extensive contacts with Jews in particular. Only after learning all the Jewish stories did he become a "Prophet." There is nothing coincidental about that. Now if you want to say Hinduism did not emerge until after Roman times, then we can also make the claim that Islam and Christianity are native to India! But that is nonsense. It is true there may be small groups of Jews who came to India as refugees to avoid persecutions. However most Indians who call themselves as "Christians" or "Muslims" are descendants of those forced to convert. The descendants may not agree, but logically speaking, Moghul invasions were not a peaceful time in Indian history! And British rule was just as bad, no need for descriptions.
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21st January 2006, 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by
stranger
On what legal grounds of India it was demoslished, Sandeep?!
On what legal grounds was Babri Masjid built in the first place?
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21st January 2006, 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by
stranger
On what legal grounds of India it was demoslished, Sandeep?!
On what legal grounds was Babri Masjid built in the first place?
The King owned all the grounds -- Legal enough!
"Hindus' allowed themselves to be conquered. They were splinters by the Vedic caste system, preoccupied with Vedic rituals - those that they brag, up till now, that it is good for society.. The Conquers took their lands. Why grumble now?
Still the conquers are going on - this time not for grounds but the minds of hindus.. And they are winning.. It is time the vedics rethink their 'greatness' of their Vedas.
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22nd January 2006, 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by
Idiappam
The King owned all the grounds -- Legal enough!
So you will also agree, the King using stones from Shiva Temple to build Babri is legal?
Originally Posted by
Idiappam
"Hindus' allowed themselves to be conquered. They were splinters by the Vedic caste system, preoccupied with Vedic rituals - those that they brag, up till now, that it is good for society.. The Conquers took their lands. Why grumble now?
Yes, why grumble. If Vedic Indians had been violent and stolen the gunpowder idea from the Chinese, they could have built big ships, sailed around the world, and killed off most of the natives with smallpox.
Originally Posted by
Idiappam
Still the conquers are going on - this time not for grounds but the minds of hindus.. And they are winning.. It is time the vedics rethink their 'greatness' of their Vedas.
Who is winning what? The whole world has accepted the greatness of Vedas.
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22nd January 2006, 01:45 AM
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So you will also agree, the King using stones from Shiva Temple to build Babri is legal?
OK, so neither building the Mosque on the allegedly caused ruins of the Shiva Temple nor allegedly demolishing the Mosque are large-hearted Indian Heritage. exemplary for mankind. So we have to exclude these events as these events do not qualify to be called large-hearted or exemplary in any manner. You are supposed to look for those large- hearted, exemplary ones. SO DO NOT GO ON THE REVERSE.
Vedic Indians had been violent and stolen .................................................. ..killed off most of the natives with smallpox
This is also not an item under large-hearted exemplary I.H.
Caste-system: hmmm.. not large-hearted exemplary I.H..
Originally Posted by
Sudhamaa
a Healthy, SECULAR and NON-RELIGIOUS Simple approach of Concern to any Individual member of Global- Humanity.
So what are the items you can include under large-hearted exemplary I.H.? Nothing?
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