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[ramky]

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"circular living beings" are those who have yet to leave the reincarnation cycle...the ones who haven't gained nirvana and still have not realised maya...it's almost by realizing that one exists, that you become again apart of the mortal world...or so i tried to convey (not that i believe in one fixed system i think that's why i can mesh the stuff all in one) :P

Querida : First poet and now i see ur a spiritualist too . "Circular living beings" - nice synonym for us ordinary mortals going around in circles, not able to come out of the cycle of birth & death . As long as one is conscious of this existence all the time, the pull of the mortal world prevents a person from unshackling the meshes of maya .

[thamizhvaanan]

kelvi kettadharkku paaratta? nandri

Queri.. I thought maya and existentialism are opposite philosophies While maya denounces sensory experiences as an illusion, in existentialism, things are merely what they are. Well.... I am not well-versed in philosophy, but this is what I understand May be the contradiction that you have brought in is intentional

[Querida]

Dear Suvai and Ramky, well what can i say to these comments? i don't know if thank yous are enough! Thamizh yes indeed good questions deserve praise

kelvi kettadharkku paaratta? nandri

Queri.. I thought maya and existentialism are opposite philosophies While maya denounces sensory experiences as an illusion, in existentialism, things are merely what they are. Well.... I am not well-versed in philosophy, but this is what I understand May be the contradiction that you have brought in is intentional

If you read my earlier posts Thamizh, concerning this poem I say that i am trying to mesh the broadest sense of these philosophies, and that i am not arguing but expressing my feelings of them so does it really matter if they contradict? They help convey what those particular words mean, and also aid in the larger theme of the poem, (or so i think you are welcome to disagree) . In other words if you exist does it matter whether it's contradictory? Isn't the whole poem about being in a state of non-existance coming into real resistance through realization? So is realization a mortal feeling or a feeling that leads us out of existence (such as enlightenment?) Again these ideas are complex and yet they can be expressed poignantly in a few lines...that is my goal

[thamizhvaanan]

Queri... I get the point and I think you've acheived ur goal

[Querida]

well Thamizh if this was a poem from a deceased author they would be honoured by such a minute analysis ...but since i haven't kicked the bucket yet i can say i appreciate it and what i think it means when i wrote it


to ravage a savage
give him disease
give him slavery
give him fear
give him forced belief
give him word, cut out his tongues
give him script, remove his signs
give him history, deem his an uncivilized mystery
give him tools, to reap for you what he sows
what of morality what of equality
what of love what of truth
give him this
no longer be mere man.

[sundararaj]

well Thamizh if this was a poem from a deceased author they would be honoured by such a minute analysis ...but since i haven't kicked the bucket yet i can say i appreciate it and what i think it means when i wrote it


to ravage a savage
give him disease
give him slavery
give him fear
give him forced belief
give him word, cut out his tongues
give him script, remove his signs
give him history, deem his an uncivilized mystery
give him tools, to reap for you what he sows
what of morality what of equality
what of love what of truth
give him this
no longer be mere man.

Very nice one Querida. I think your poem represents the Old Testament culture.

[Querida]

thanx Sundararaj i was answering a question in my geo exam prep when this occured to me...

[sundararaj]

CONGRATULATIONS QUERIDA - YOUR THREAD CROSSED 10K VIEWS

[Designer]

Querida : "to ravage a man" . and Congrats for 10k views

[Querida]

wow really? haha you guys are too sweet! I know for a fact those numbers adding up to 10k was mostly me postng, editing and altering my poems numerous times and copying them to my files so I don't lose them...yet I'm very touched to know that this number also includes the thoughtful hubbers and their wonderful consideration...