M.K. Thyagaraja Bagavadhar

[Sudhaama]

Dear Mr."rajraj"

Splendid. !!!... A Grand old Song of 62 years back... you could collect and present here... !! Well-done... for your Sincere Efforts.!!

This Song is in the Raga : VIJAYA-NAAGARI.

Only Just TWO Corrections please.

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Song #4. Soppana vaazhvil

Movie: Sivakavi(1943)
Music: G.Ramanathan
Lyrics: Papanasam Sivan
Cast: MKT

soppana vaazhvil magizhndhu
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sindhai thirundhi uyya...................... "guhane" / PUHALAE
undhan thiruvaruL puriyaayo

Sindhai thirundhi .......................... uyyaa / UYYA .... guhane / PUHALAE
undhan thiruvaruL puriyaayo//
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[rajraj]

sudhaamaa,
Thanks.
I corrected the typo in 'uyyaa'. Guhane is correct, another name for SubramNyaa ! That is what the 'kirthana maalai' of Papanasam Sivan says! That is also how I used to sing! It is the same 'Guhan' in SaravaNa bava Guhane Shanmukane' !

[Sudhaama]

Mr. Raj Raj

Song :--- "Soppana Vaazhvil...."

The word ..."Guhan" is one of the names of the Lord Subrahmanya alias Muruha alias Kandhan ... alias Saravanhan ...and so on.. I know.

But my point is whether that Word here... or ... Not?

I am singing this song since the past 60 years... I know well... Because..

I am having the Gramophone Records also.... from which I verified now in the Voice of MKT... Clearly he says... PUHALAE ....

Puhal= Gathi / Refuge

Please hear MKT once again and then tell me.

Books are not reliable (I have adequate bitter experience on it)... unless it is published by the Composer himself.

[rajraj]

Sudhamaa,
The book was published by his daughter! She also gives the notes for the song! I have to trust the daughter! I listened to the song and it is 'Guhane' which I think is more appropriate than 'pugale'. If you look at other compositions of Sivan you will notice that he uses the different names of a deity in his songs. Thanks for expressing your views.
Raj
3/5

[Sudhaama]

Dear Mr Raj Raj,

//The book was published by his daughter! She also gives the notes for the song! I have to trust the daughter!//

Normally I don't enter into arguments with anybody... because... Arguments develops Fissure in Friendship... as also take us Nowhere... Because it becomes a Prestige-Issue at one stage... Most of the people do not have the Spirit of accepting own Faults...

... but try to establish... "Thaan pidicha Muyalukku Moonhae Kaal"

Whereas I am open-minded to receive the better ideas as alsothe due correction on my faults if I am convinced. And also I love to discuss with others... as an exchange of Knowledge... Give and Take.. So I am dealing with you only as a matter of Discussion.

To believe or Not to believe anything ... is left to you. I am not interested to press further. But ... left... to your Discretion.

// I listened to the song and it is 'Guhane' which I think is more appropriate than 'pugale'. //

If You are sure about it... OK.. Have it so. But I am sure on my Stand.
I hope you remember Sivakavi film at this Context...

The Pulavar (MKT) realises his mistakes and mis-conceptions on the Lord Subrahmanya.. who corrected him.. by moving with him in disguise.Immediately on realisation.. the Pulavar confesses...At that stage... Muruha shows to him His real identity... and disappears.

Then... the Pulavar... bows down... and touches the place and pays obeisance... where Muruha stood. .. Forthwith he starts this Song...

Matching with this context... the Composer P.Sivan has praised Muruha.. and finally shows his obeisance by Surrender at Muruha's Feet... as the PUHAL = Refuge (Adaikkalam)

That is th way all the Bhakthi-Songs are composed... so to say... praising in the beginning and end with the Surrender. So by the meaning and Sense too I am convinced fully on what I stand by.

For my Ears... even now I have heard once again.. it is PUHALAE only.

//If you look at other compositions of Sivan you will notice that he uses the different names of a deity in his songs.//

Not only he.... all the Composers adopt that Method... But at last... the Song used to end with words of Surrender to God.

That is customary. ... It is left to you. to accept or reject my clarifications.

[rajraj]

Song #5.

Movie : Haridas
Music :G.Ramanathan
Lyrics :Papanasam Sivan
Cast :MKT, T.R.Rajakumari

annaiyum thanthaiyumthaane paaril
annaiyum thanthaiyumthaane paaril
aNda saraasaram kaNkaNda dheivam
annaiyum thanthaiyumthaane

thaayinum kovil ingedhu
thaayinum kovil ingedhu eendra
thenthai sol mikkadhor mandhiramedhu
thanthai so mikkadhor mandhiramedhu
seyin kadan annai thoNdu
seyin kadan annai thoNdu puNya
theerthamum moorthi sthalam ithil uNdu
theerthamum moorthi sthalam ithil uNdu
annaiyum thanthaiyumthaane

thaayudan thanthaiyin paadham endrum
thalai vaNangaadhavan naaL thavaraamal
kovilil sendru enna kaaNbaan
nandha gopaalan veNdum varam tharuvaano

ponnudal than porUl boomi
ponnudal than poruL boomi peNdir
puthirarum pugazh itharai vaazhvum
puthiratum pugazh itharai vaazhvum
annai pidhaa indri yedhu
annai pidhaa indri yedhu maram
aayin vidhai indri kaai kani yedhu
aayin vidhai indri kaai kani yedhu
annaiyumn thanthaiyumthaane paaril
aNda saraasaram kaN kaNda dheivam
annaiyum thanthaiyumthaane dheivam

[madhu]

Raj :

adhu "thAyudan thanthaiyin pAdham "

[rajraj]

Thanks madhu!

[rajraj]

Song #6. Rajan maharajan

Movie: ShyaamaLaa(1952)
Music: G.Ramanathan
Lyrics: Papanasam Sivan
Cast: MKT, S.Varalakshmi

raajan maharaajan thiru
vetriyoor mevum thiruvaaLan thyaagaraajan
raajan maharaajan
thiruvetriyoor mevum thiruvaaLan thyaagaraajan
thiruvetriyoor mevum thiruvaaLan thyaagaraajan maharaajan
thiruvetriyoor mevum thiruvaaLan thyagaraajan

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sri vadivudaiyaaL sevithu magizhndhidum
sri vadivudaiyaaL sevithu magizhndhidum
raajan maharaajan

mattilla pugazh migum pattinathaar andru
mattilla pugazh migum pattinathaar andru
katti kalandha karuNai arase
katti kalandha karuNai arase
thatti kazhikkaamal dhanayanai aatkoNdu
thatti kazhikkaamal dhanayanai aatkoNdu
thatti kazhikkaamal dhanayanai aatkoNdu
pattini piNi mooppu patraadhendre aaLum
pattini piNi mooppu patraadhendre aaLum

raajan maharaajan thiru
vetriyoor mevum thiruvaaLan thyaagaraajan

(................. swaram left out)

[rajraj]

Song # 7.

Movie: Haridas(1944)
Music: G.Ramanathan
Lyrics: Papanasam Sivan
Cast: MKT, T.R.Rajakumari

manmadhan leelaiyai vendraar uNdo
manmadhan leelaiyai vendraar uNdo en mel unakkeno paaraamukam
manmadhan leelaiyai vendraar uNdo en mel unakkeno paaraamukam
manamadhan leelaiyai vendraar uNdo

nin madhi vadhanamum
nin madhi vadhanamum neeL vizhiyum kaNdu

rambaa
swaami

nin madhi vadhanamum neeL vizhiyum kaNdu

nin madhi vadhanamum neeL vizhiyum kaNdu
en madhi mayanginen naan
en madhi mayanginen moondru ulagilum
en madhi mayanginen moondru ulagilum
manmadhan leelaiyai vendraar uNdo

ennudane nee pesinaal vaai muthu udhirndhu vidumo
ennudane nee pesinaal vaai muthu udhirndhu vidumo
unai enneramum ninaindhu urugum ennidam vandhaal menakkedumo
unai enneramum ninaindhu urugum ennidam vandhaal menakkedumo
unnai nayandhu naan veNdiyum or mutham thandhaal kuraindhidumo
unnai nayandhu naan veNdiyum or mutham thandhaal kuraindhidumo
oru pizhai ariyaa en manam malar kaNai paaindhu allal padumo
oru pizhai ariyaa en manam malar kaNai paaindhu allal padumo
manam kavar manmadhan leelaiyai vendraar uNdo
en mel unakkeno paaraamukam
manmadhan leelaiyai vendraar uNdo