Topic started by Tamilian (@ 161.142.100.86) on Wed Jul 10 00:16:33 EDT 2002.
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What makes AR Rahman really special? Why does his music cause so much excitement and flurry?
What is the difference that AR Rahman offers that no one else offers.
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- From: pradeep (@ 203.199.12.50)
on: Wed Jul 10 05:01:09 EDT 2002
Devan is a rehash of all old IR songs.......poor BGM poorer songs
- From: a (@ 156.153.254.42)
on: Wed Jul 10 05:06:31 EDT 2002
pradeep
?????????????????????????????
hahahahahaha
- From: what? (@ 203.199.231.224)
on: Wed Jul 10 06:24:00 EDT 2002
oh my god... such a postable thread and poof.. vandhuduvaanga.
ne ways.. sorry tamilian.. some ppl jus dont appreciate things.
- From: a (@ 156.153.254.42)
on: Wed Jul 10 06:34:23 EDT 2002
what?
postable thread and poof.. vandhuduvaanga ????
some ppl jus dont appreciate things u????
- From: Raghu (@ 217.158.120.226)
on: Wed Jul 10 06:37:28 EDT 2002
I agree with AVR, ARR is the no.1 MD in India 2day, no doubts about that, Andrew lloyd webber, praised him big time, ARR came up with a unique way of composing like IR came up with unique way of composing melodies,
today ARR's music is cloned by Anu malik, Jatin lalit, Anand Miland, Deva, Harrish Jeyraj, ARR introduced a new trend in 1992, like a whirl wind, but unfortunatley he has also killed TFM with the intriduction of terrible singers :)
- From: curses (@ 203.199.231.224)
on: Wed Jul 10 06:42:57 EDT 2002
Harris jeyraj! :(
- From: curses (@ 203.199.231.224)
on: Wed Jul 10 06:45:50 EDT 2002
ppl let's have some constructive discussion here pls.
intha personal attacks ellam vendaame, pleeze?
btw.. naan thappa (what?)a name la pottuten!
that was me..
- From: MIF (@ 202.9.149.152)
on: Wed Jul 10 07:21:03 EDT 2002
ARRs music is kinda refreshing.....he is the person who has taken over from IR beginning with Roja.......and has took TFM to new heights never seen before........electronics have helped to make a song sound crystal clear.....even the smallest things in a song are noticed very clearly........the other present day MDs have all been inspired from ARR.......thus their music isnt all that different(i mean ppl like HJ,YSR,KR and upcoming Mds)
He is THE person to have succeded here as well as in Hindi and is now cementing his place in the field of music WorldWide
his works have been recognised and he was awarded padmashree by the Indian Govt......wat more can u ask for??....he has done TN & India PROUD.
his only weakness is the number of movies he does during a year.......he has accepted himself dat he is slow(??).......but atleast it proves worth when the songs are out......he is thus undoubtedly one of the best MDs TF industry has ever had.
All IMHO......those are frankly wat i feel
- From: Paran (@ 203.121.0.10)
on: Wed Jul 10 07:38:35 EDT 2002
May be ARR is the only MD, who gave the whole TFM to have a choice of MD's. Seriously, before ARR, I never even know that there was Chndarbose, Shankar-Ganesh (i know him more as an actor), it's him who actually made everyone to compare each and every single MD's available. It another way, he made us look at each of them with equality.
Isn't that something to be perished ...(is the word correct)...
Anyway
comp-ARR-ison IR-ritating........(got my point)
- From: a (@ 156.153.254.42)
on: Wed Jul 10 07:44:35 EDT 2002
Repeat value of his songs.... is 0
Then what is the point in having all the awards of the world?
- From: Raghu (@ 217.158.120.226)
on: Wed Jul 10 08:21:37 EDT 2002
MIF;
enna thambi, neengha evalavu seriousa post pannuveengha ennu naa kanavila kooda ninaikala, enna gnam piranthutha :))
- From: insider (@ 209.130.217.104)
on: Wed Jul 10 09:20:18 EDT 2002
Why ALW choose ARR?
Basically India/indians are too big now to be ignored by rest of the world. We are slowly progression ahead in all the fields, music is one such field. Indians cannot be ignored in major socities in the west. So is indian entertainment.
Hence ALW saw a great potential to tap this market. He needed someone who can make this happen. As of now there is no one in India to create such a sentation as A.R.Rahman did. Hence Mr.Webber decided to choose the top man today, a musician popular in the four directions of India.
No one can deny Arr for this credit. Arr is also talented , he is not just a show piece. He clealry paved his way! on the front. Some will deny this, there are always exceptions to anything! we cannot do anything with them.
coming back to my story , Basically ALW and ARR have grouped their talents such a way that they can capitializ on the fact, Indians cannot be ignored anymore!.
If you see with a open eye, this opens up market for other Indian musicians, god willing they might be do wonders if tapped in the right way!
Just wait! it is matter of days until we see a Madonna /ARR combination.
..."Major General Time" has to tell us.
ps: Dont abuse this thread please! i am just trying to get back the good old newtfmpage discussions.
- From: c (@ 203.199.248.77)
on: Wed Jul 10 10:09:20 EDT 2002
paran:
do u by ne chance mean cherished??
- From: curses (@ 203.199.248.77)
on: Wed Jul 10 10:10:52 EDT 2002
sorry.. that was supposed to be me!
- From: Britto (@ 12.23.133.6)
on: Wed Jul 10 10:54:49 EDT 2002
The only difference that I found in ARR is his hair style...nothing else
- From: O (@ 193.188.97.152)
on: Wed Jul 10 11:17:24 EDT 2002
ARR,being from the AD world has managed to have a" concept "for each one of his song.Hope the lingo is correct,Cosmician!
The Adworld provides a very good challenge;you have to make an impression in the shortest possible time say 30sec.He has successfully managed that.People would remember his "Garden" "Leo","titan" and Asianet title score etc..
After this success he has managed to bring a similar concept to movie songs as well.
- From: sarat (@ 128.192.5.157)
on: Wed Jul 10 11:51:29 EDT 2002
IMO ARR was special because you could go to the music store and buy an ARR cassette for 50 bucks and at the end of the day you will not regret that expense even one bit. He made sure that the customer was completely satisfied.
- From: Uthaman (@ 65.69.44.31)
on: Wed Jul 10 11:51:59 EDT 2002
But there is a hell a lot of difference between Adworld Music and Composing music for a film.
That's why ARR's experiment with BGMs falls short.
He is very very ordinary in capturing the moods in a movie. It has to be touch deep inside you. When i listened to the BGM of the movie 'Mission' i shed a few tears. ARR cannot do that with electronics and computer. It needs more than mix and match talent to achieve that kind of level.
Genius visualizes the music. When you guys say Bombay is the best BGM he can come up with, i pity you. He tried to imitate that music from a scotland or ireland movie BGM and failed miserably. ARR has access to all the hollywood movies and other foreign language movies. He uses shamelessly in his movies and you guys call him a genius. If he is a genius i am Albert Einstein.
Just because his songs are foot tapping don't call him no.1 MD. I saw this Italian movie 'Malena'. Ennio Morricone scored a hard breaking BGM for that. I mean it touches deep inside of us. I get the same effect when i listen to BGMs of IR. It has never happened with other MDs in movies. Past and Present.
- From: insider (@ 209.130.217.102)
on: Wed Jul 10 12:13:53 EDT 2002
uthaman,
are you really open some serious discussions?
Don't you think "touch your heart" is very subective. Let it be ir or arr or jrr or qrr.
BGM is part of indian movies, bgm is not the movies. Secondly it is not that arr who determines the backgroud score, director has to do it. Arr is working for the director, it is not the other way around.
The basics of a movie score is it should blend with the movies. bottom line, Indian film music is made of actors and actress to dance. Can Ennio Morricone work on a score for vijaykanths to dance, i dont think so.
touching or pricking your heart is very subjective in nature.
Secondly you need to know how arr works, he follows the mordern western school.
When people called arr a genius. for them he might be one. I think you are in very limited world and not ready to accept the fact arr is good, if not the best today in india.
Electronics and computer music, can you really define it. A simple guitar fex processor has a chip that is computer controlled, 90% of score from IR has this processor running. You need to get one thing, using electronics is like a tool, dont complain about electronics without knowing about it.
Simply if you dont like it, you just say everything is stupid bla bla bla.
You dont know anything other than abusing arr, musically you have no clue what arr does, I would say you have no clue about IR or his music. summa you are making loud noise thats all.
if you are really serious about IR , you would continue listeing to him and leave arr alone.
Your nose cry is not going to get IR anywhere, he does not require one. He has been everywhere an artist wishes to go.
I think your point is taken here , why dont you stop your nonsense ?
Shall we discuss song by song!...can you take it...just take the song "adisiya thiruman", what do you understand from that song? can to you tell us...what do you feel when you hear it,
you had told there is no one to counter your points, here is one, just tell what you bad about that song? let me counter you.
- From: sarat (@ 128.192.5.157)
on: Wed Jul 10 12:14:24 EDT 2002
"He uses shamelessly in his movies and you guys call him a genius. If he is a genius i am Albert Einstein."
Uthaman
Einstein refused to accept the possibility of Quantum Mechanics.
He was wrong.
ARR is a genius and you are Albert Einstein.
(my apologies to the other physics enthusiasts around)
- From: C~P (@ 202.9.147.43)
on: Wed Jul 10 12:22:34 EDT 2002
Uthaman,
>>If he is a genius i am Albert Einstein. <<
hi there.....Mr.Albert Einstein ;)
Raghu,
actually i told in some thread that MIF wud be posting seriously from then on.....mayb u missed that........naan paattu en vazhiyila poittu irukkaen,ennai yen thevai illamal seendareenga....aaparam ungalukku thaan kashtam ;)
okok......u should have said that last dialogue :)
- From: C~P (@ 202.9.147.43)
on: Wed Jul 10 12:23:30 EDT 2002
oh......ok sarat......mannichutten
:))
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