Topic started by Cinefan (@ 203.101.52.65) on Fri Aug 6 07:05:25 EDT 2004.
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- From: C.R. Madhusudhan (@ 202.54.137.87)
on: Mon Aug 16 05:30:59 EDT 2004
I heard MR saying in an interview "yes it takes more than a year to make movie when the MD is ARR"
Isn't he pissed? Any views?
- From: C~P (@ 61.2.32.2)
on: Mon Aug 16 05:37:27 EDT 2004
20000910 (@ 136.1.1.33)
naiyandi (@ 136.1.1.33)
And naiyandi, what 20000910 said was
"Sorry - my post was sarcastic. I mean what you have elobrated."
Why are you coming in between?
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Naiyandi and 20000910 twins-o? :-/
Muthupandi,
Mudhugulerundhu aruva eduththu Napolean style-la poattuteeha! :-)
- From: :-) (@ 61.11.56.80)
on: Mon Aug 16 06:12:22 EDT 2004
CR.Madhu seems like a IR fan who wants to see the ray of light.
No no this is just not going to happen.
MR is always Gatham Gatham to IR.
- From: Nattamai (@ 216.240.138.3)
on: Mon Aug 16 10:34:25 EDT 2004
Muthupandi:
--- Selvaraghavan- Thulluvadho iLamai, kaadhal kondaen, 7GRC. All nice lovely subjects. Very decent movies that even new born babies can watch.
I have not watched TI, so I am not in a position to comment about it. But I watched KK, I really enjoyed it. It was a well made movie. It got an A certificate, I think. So it is intended for adults, if you take your new born babies to that movie, you must be a fool/nut or a better screening system should be installed in theatres. I guess 7GRC will have sexual content too, he told in an interview that people are gonna scold him after watching the film. Is it going to happen or just a stint, we need to wait and watch. So stay off that movie if you plan to go with your new born babies :)
--- Shankar and SJ Surya- Cheeeeeeee..Matter padam directors
I haven\'t watched Boys and New yet, and I don\'t think i will watch them in future either. You can go to Boys or News thread, I haven\'t raised even a single point against their sexual content. I don\'t have any compliants about making movies with sexual content. I watched Something about Mary, American Pie long time back and I liked them both. I am for giving full freedom to the director\'s creativity. If you don\'t like those subjects, don\'t watch. You have the options with you to leave it or take it.
--- Selvaraghavan will go the cheeee group the moment he changes the MD. Even if he uses SA Rajkumar as MD, he will become matter movie director.
Well, Cheran uses Bharadwaj now, Gowtham Menan uses HJ. So aren\'t they good atleast so far? Using or not using anyone\'s favorite MD does not do any work on behalf of directors. The director has to work himself on his parts like screenplay, story etc.. So don\'t confuse yourself with director\'s work with director\'s choices. And lastly I don\'t think selvarghavan will change his MD, certainly he will not go to your favourite MD :)
- From: Nattamai (@ 216.240.138.3)
on: Mon Aug 16 11:00:08 EDT 2004
Muthupandi:
--- KK Nagar la nadandha uNmai sambavam pathi padam edutha aaaha oho..Real life la irundhu copy adikalaam. Famous novels la irundhu copy adikalaam.
But foreign movies inspire panni padam edutha udane cry foul..
ennaiya ithu kelviye somba sirupullathanama irukku!
athu ennanga real life incidents, novels paththi pesum pothu mattum copy appadingareenga.. foreign movies paththi pesum pothu inspiration appadi solreenga.. real life incidentslerinthu eduththa copynna, even mani has done it in his movies, roja, bombay, and KM. appa oru padam kooda mani sonthama edukkalai appadinnu solreengala?
We can accept as long as someone adapts (this is the right word not copies) from real life incidents/novels, because it is in a totally different format/art form. But taking from other movies without giving proper credits is a shame. Because it is already in a movie format and you are stealing someone\'s creativity. Do you get the POINT?
- From: zz (@ 203.145.174.4)
on: Tue Aug 17 06:33:24 EDT 2004
Then nattamai, in that sense will you accept that KadalK is an out and out copy of a german film which was remadein english as "the fear". Now Karthik site says so...also your fav. mD copied 3 songs lock stock and barrel in that movie...
Would you apply the same yard stick to SR and YSR that you apply to mani.
See lets all accept what drives our like of dislike of any cine person is our fanatism about a perticular MD....right.....NATAAMAI
- From: sudalai (@ 193.132.98.250)
on: Tue Aug 17 07:42:57 EDT 2004
MR..
Padam pannunga.. aana oru chinna request... nalla dialogue writer oruthar-a kooda vachukkonga...
Appram padam paarka varravangala torch eduthuttu vara vachidaadheenga... Konjam velichathayum kaaminga...
Sila samayam.. adhu negatives paarkkara maadhiri irukku... (Maybe, its time for me to visit a eye consultant..)
Controversy centre pannaama 'alaipaayuthe' maadhiri oru romantic padam pannunga...
- From: Nattamai (@ 65.19.174.35)
on: Tue Aug 17 10:18:51 EDT 2004
zz:
--- will you accept that KadalK is an out and out copy of a german film which was remadein english as "the fear".
This is news to me. Let me check that info, if indeed that's true, then that's not good for SR.
--- Now Karthik site says so...also your fav. mD copied 3 songs lock stock and barrel in that movie...
I just want to point out that I never claimed that YSR has not copied any songs and all of his songs are original. I think it is bad copying from other sources, but tell me one music director who has not done it. Again and again, why are you bringing comparison of MDs here? We can as well discuss this matter in another appropriate thread.
--- See lets all accept what drives our like of dislike of any cine person is our fanatism about a perticular MD....right
No, certainly not, may be you are talking about your thinking. IMO, MR is just way overrated even from IR days. Certainly new comers SR, Cheran, Bala, GM are good. They have a long way to go but even at the initial stage of their career they have done a better job. That is commendable, don't you think? There was an article came out in India Today few weeks back about the new directors taking the tamil industry to a different path...will they do it? only time will tell. So far so good!
- From: zz (@ 203.145.174.4)
on: Wed Aug 18 05:57:40 EDT 2004
Check That...I am a member of karthik's group and have read the discussion that was going on that time...
>>>but tell me one music director who has not done it.
True....idhu oru phillosophy...now If you believe that then you and I don't have to fight....tell me will you like that?
Nataamai: I still maintain that you dislike or like of anybosy is driven by your hatred against ARR...That's true and admit that....You won't become a villian tomorrow or be dethoned from your Nattamai post...adhu ungalukke uriyadhu....but solra theerpa...deiriyama solunga...you are not unbiased...and you have a deep deep special corner for YSR
Ore request...mathavangala...objectiva eppovume pesunganu solladheenga...apdi sonnalum....unga subjectiviti idhudhaan...ippo objectiva pesunganu sollunga...adhu othukkurom.
- From: MRfan (@ 202.54.137.87)
on: Wed Aug 18 08:17:42 EDT 2004
maniyin adutha padam "IRUTHUKKUL SOORIYAN".
ACTORS: Madavan,trisha,vivek,s.p.bala,heera(tiruda tiruda fame),r.sundar rajan,raguvaran,pratiba.....
Music: Harris jeyaraj
lyrisc: vaali,vairamuthu,snehan
how far is this true?
- From: Guess Me (@ 202.83.35.163)
on: Wed Aug 18 08:27:18 EDT 2004
MRfan:
"maniyin adutha padam "IRUTHUKKUL SOORIYAN".
ACTORS: Madavan,trisha,vivek,s.p.bala,heera(tiruda tiruda fame),r.sundar rajan,raguvaran,pratiba.....
Music: Harris jeyaraj
lyrisc: vaali,vairamuthu,snehan
how far is this true?"
Sounds fake. The title seems to be ripped off from Parthiban's "Kudaikkul Mazhai". And music by HJ, well if MR decides to try out someone other than ARR, then it would be IR for sure. No one else will be able to do justice to MR's narration style.
- From: Kupps (@ 192.76.80.74)
on: Wed Aug 18 10:44:44 EDT 2004
>>>>>>>>>>
if MR decides to try out someone other than ARR, then it would be IR for sure. No one else will be able to do justice to MR's narration style.
>>>>>>>>>>
Guess what, thats what i too was thinking till 93-94(thiruda thiruda). That turned out to be incorrect. So why can't this time too especially nowadays when mani is seems to be losing his steam many would be fit to do "justice"(may be a HJ, a SEL, a KR).
- From: NoteMan (@ 35.9.20.85)
on: Wed Aug 18 20:14:32 EDT 2004
HJ is a good choice. He is not bad at all in BGM and his songs are decent, regardless of what ARR fans might think. The point is he has given good melodious songs and even if they are similar to ARR's songs people like them. E.g., Kakka Kakka had good music and that movie is something similar to what MR makes. HJ proved a good choice for that and there is no reason why he won't fill in ARR's shoes. Even YSR can be in the race, having given some serious scores (but blatantly copied tunes) for Kaadhal Kondein and other hits. And, his BGM is top class too.
- From: MADDY (@ 203.94.233.62)
on: Wed Aug 18 21:52:46 EDT 2004
MR has no choice but to work with ARR cos ARR has really spoiled him........ARR's style of working is very infectious and that's y it takes a lot of time and heavy heart to ditch ARR......ex: shankar,ram gopal,BR all substituted ARR with someone else after a long time only.......if that is the case for ppl. who work with ARR with less proximity then MR has worked with ARR like bhai-bhai, so it'll be very tough for MR to leave out ARR from his plans...
- From: C.R. Madhusudhan (@ 202.54.137.87)
on: Thu Aug 19 00:03:27 EDT 2004
My views: (No IR or ARR bashing, both of them are living legends in their own style)
I feel Mani will come out of ARR and join hands with HJ. If he's the kind of person who can't think of coming out of ARR as ARR spends lot of time on his songs, he wouldn't have left IR in 90's.
The reason Mani came out of IR:
The late GV was not able to produce Roja! Balachander was ready to produce but did not wan't IR as he could not digest IR's comment in Pudhu Pudhu Arthangal function that it was a hit because of IR's music(an arrogant genius).
Balachandar himself was doing all his films using Maragadha Mani at that time (all flops). MR then decided to go with the late Mahesh (remember kurudhipunal and now vaanam vasapadum by PC Sriram) but Balachandar was not for him. So they decided to bring a new guy. That find was the great ARR.
All these directors praise MD's when they give hits and desert them when the movie fails. Just to prove that, Balachandar was praising MSV everywhere in 60's ... then there was a rift, so he brought in V.Kumar(KB-VK combo were hits) ... then jumped back to MSV during late 70's ... made films to enthu MSV when MSV was down due to IR's entry ... later jumped to IR in 80's ... said IR can only give a musical hit ... later jumped to ARR ...
This is just one instance ... if you see history all directors would have deserted all MD's.
We have to sympathize on our talented MD's IR, ARR. The same could happen for HJ, VS, YSR after 5 years ... God Only Knows!
- From: C.R. Madhusudhan (@ 202.54.137.87)
on: Thu Aug 19 00:34:11 EDT 2004
Folks, a small correction KB started of with V. Kumar and then jumped to MSV... then goes the story..
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