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- From: curses (@ 203.101.38.82)
on: Fri Aug 13 12:37:21 EDT 2004
Venki,
when would u EVER say Rahman was brilliant? :)
- From: 20000910 (@ 136.1.1.33)
on: Fri Aug 13 12:48:24 EDT 2004
Those who desert IR are ..
Fools..
Medicore...
Give Flop Movies...
Potray Ilt Relationship..
Thoese work with him...
Kamal Hassan (All Hits... No Illicit Relationship in his life..)
Balu Mahendra (Same, No Illicit relationship in his life or movies...)
Bala (What a great movies are Pithamagan and Nanda..)
Long live IR and his fans!!
- From: curses (@ 203.101.38.82)
on: Fri Aug 13 12:54:38 EDT 2004
The Road to El Desparado!
- From: Guess Me (@ 202.83.33.202)
on: Fri Aug 13 13:46:35 EDT 2004
"Those who desert IR are ..
Fools..
Medicore...
Give Flop Movies...
Potray Ilt Relationship.. "
You sound as if IR made their movies hit.
"Kamal Hassan (All Hits... No Illicit Relationship in his life..)"
I dont think that is true.
"Bala (What a great movies are Pithamagan and Nanda..) "
I havent seen Nanda so I cant comment. But Pithamagan I wont say great movie. It is a good movie but very much exaggerated. You wont find a real life character like that of Vikram. Way too exaggerated. The movie had 1 good song. Even minus the songs, it would have been hit.
Infact in the last few years, I havent seen a single movie by IR in which his music contributed to it's success.
So dont try to say that those who deserted IR are having an unsuccessful career. Those who work with IR now dont depend upon him in anyway. They just need some songs to fill the gaps.
And IR himself is in bad times. He is not even in 1/4th of his "form" in the 80s.
- From: 20000910 (@ 136.1.1.33)
on: Fri Aug 13 13:57:25 EDT 2004
Guess Me,
Sorry - my post was sarcastic. I mean what you have elobrated.
- From: Guess Me (@ 202.83.33.202)
on: Fri Aug 13 15:04:43 EDT 2004
Oops. Sorry 20000910.
- From: naiyandi (@ 136.1.1.33)
on: Fri Aug 13 15:14:59 EDT 2004
20000910,
Guess Me has a single point agenda in life, of shouting down IR / his admirers...he has proved in many other threads his incompetence to understand English, let alone logic or music...here he has exhibited his ignorance once again...
- From: mnt (@ 198.73.152.99)
on: Fri Aug 13 16:01:30 EDT 2004
20000910,
ayyoo pavam neenga. Sarcasm panni atha vilanga vaikavum vendi irukku.
- From: Guess Me (@ 202.83.33.202)
on: Fri Aug 13 16:04:06 EDT 2004
Mr. naiyandi, please point another thread which shows my "incompetence to understand English"
And my agenda is appreciating great music. And I react only when people treat some composers like Gods forgetting the fact that they are merely humans.
And naiyandi, what 20000910 said was
"Sorry - my post was sarcastic. I mean what you have elobrated."
Why are you coming in between?
- From: rambhathukku vakkaalathu (@ 80.164.245.218)
on: Sun Aug 15 10:32:59 EDT 2004
vijai, u are reading more into rambham's unwritten lines. I don't think rambaham has dragged MDs in the discussion. Not all IR fans are blindfolded to hate directors just becuse they don't come to IR.indha sindu mudiyara velai thaane vendamkiradhu.
BTW, Mani better buckles up as directors like Cheran , Gautam Menon will steal all that hype, halo (verenna , north indies press, media kadaatcham thaan)which Mani alone in TF has been basking in so far under his very nose.
poor Guess me - "And I react only when people treat some composers like Gods forgetting the fact that they are merely humans. " -
oh TFMDF is indeed blessed to have holy saviours like u to redeem us from our sins!!!!
naangellam ippo arr fansungo!!!
- From: Ram (@ 195.229.241.186)
on: Sun Aug 15 12:50:43 EDT 2004
I went to bed last night thinking about the fact that Mani is cooling his heels off, after receiving such a lukewarm response to his recent movies...and I had a Nightmare. It was on Mani's next movie:
It will be a remake of Agni Natchathiram which will have 2 from Shankar's "Boys" playing Prabhu and Karthik's roles. Potbellied "chappavaai" Kiran with Anuradha Sreeram's voice over will play Jayachitra's role and Devayani will play Sumithra's role. Their names will be further shortened to Kam (ala) and Su (Sushila). Bharathi Raja will play the villain's role.
At this stage, I woke up.. and was relieved to find that it was only a dream.
Can you people help me complete the rest of the credits?
1. Amala's role:
2. Nirosha's role:
3. Vijayakumar's role:
4. VKRamasami:
5. Janakaraj:
6. Disco Shanthi:
7. Thangamani
Who will be the MD?
And what will it be titled tis time?
Will it be remade in Hindi?
- From: vijay (@ 68.51.215.28)
on: Sun Aug 15 14:08:37 EDT 2004
"Not all IR fans are blindfolded to hate directors just becuse they don't come to IR"
yeah, but most of them tend to do.Its actually not hate but vayatherichal :-)Naanum IR fan dhaan.
"BTW, Mani better buckles up as directors like Cheran , Gautam Menon will steal all that hype, halo (verenna , north indies press, media kadaatcham thaan)which Mani alone in TF has been basking in so far under his very nose.
"
so far both of them have barely made a dent in the TF scene. It will take atleast 2 or 3 hits in a row from them to "steal the halo".
- From: rambham's will be paid lawyer (@ 80.164.245.218)
on: Sun Aug 15 15:16:59 EDT 2004
vijai don't include the likes of xml/ambleen/nattaamai etc into irfan bracket. They infact seem to provoke IR bashing by bashing ARR and MR. Being an old timer u can differentiate between decent IR fans and these so called ones. These so called onez have not contributed anything positive in either IR album thread or any ir thread which discusses music.
aanaa as an irfan i would prefer mani to use ir instead of praveen mani for bgm and arr for songs. It would add more value to mani's movie and our movie watching experience. raaja , already at the verge of retirement, idhellam oru alpa aasai thaan.
rambham, ennakky fees eurola kudunga :)-
- From: rs (@ 203.101.42.78)
on: Mon Aug 16 01:28:31 EDT 2004
"BTW, Mani better buckles up as directors like Cheran , Gautam Menon will steal all that hype, halo "
Manirathnam pathi ovvorutharum ennanamo solrenga.. hype hype nu... appuram he is high funda....western influence .... tell this........have any one director other than manirathnam have had their movies titled in pure tamil or have stopped using fully-tamil songs?
not one movie of mani contains english words
or one song of mani contains tanglish words (to be honest i am not sure of this one)
Ayitha ezhuthu
kanathil muthamital
alaipayuthe
bombay (it is a noun afterall..you cant translate names)
roja
thalapathy
agni natchathiram
mouna ragam
nayagan
iruvar
pagal kanavu
ithai yaaravathu note paneengala?
- From: Nattamai (@ 216.240.138.3)
on: Mon Aug 16 02:10:40 EDT 2004
rambham\'s will be paid lawyer :
--- don\'t include the likes of xml/ambleen/nattaamai etc into irfan bracket.
I need to reply you here since my name is appeared in the list.
--- These so called onez have not contributed anything positive in either IR album thread or any ir thread which discusses music.
Contributing to IR album thread. I listen to new IR albums as they release in tamil (not MFM/TeluguFM). His new albums are just average except pithamagan and virumandi. Well that\'s what I feel about them. So there is no need to write in that thread. When virumandi came out, I liked, was excited and I was the one wrote about the songs with small review first in TFM page. Obviously you had not read it or ignored or you are having selective memory :)
BTW, WHAT IS YOUR CONTRIBUTION AS A IR FAN IN THE ALBUM THREAD?
--- They infact seem to provoke IR bashing by bashing ARR and MR.
Well bashing thundu bhai and bashing MR are two different things. I don\'t want to bring thundu bhai here in this thread, people intend to discuss about MR here. Initially liked mani in Mounaragam, nayagan, IT, roja(yes, it\'s indeed by thundu Bhai if you have forgotten). I have said that even in AE thread. I didn\'t say his Roja was bad because he used thundu bhai. So my point is irrespective of mds, i do/don\'t like his movies. After watching Nenjaththai killathe and God father, I doubt how original he is. The other day I was watching Footloose and I was immediately reminded of IT (I am not talking about the whole movie, just few scenes).. I am still not sure whether he copied or inspired from the movie, I need to watch IT again to find out. As a director, his movie making style is just annoying and artificial now. He tries to imitate hollywood style movie making. This was not happened after he left IR, even with IR he had started. Just watch Anjali/thalapathi, you will know.
--- raaja , already at the verge of retirement, idhellam oru alpa aasai thaan.
Well, I feel mani is at the verge of retirement. it will be tough for mani to be successful anymore not because of the MD he uses but his work as a director is/has been in question. Also there are new, young talented guys in the industry. I like the new comers, bala, cheran, GM, Selavaragavan etc.. Couple of them don\'t use IR, so what? they are good at what they are doing. I am yet to see a director like Mahendran in tamil, he is way way better than this hyped up mani. So I wish IR should team up with some new director who does magic like Mahendran and certainly not with Mani. He will fade away just like KB, BR soon!
- From: vijay (@ 68.51.215.28)
on: Mon Aug 16 02:31:07 EDT 2004
rs, granted that Mani has a good taste and some originality when it comes to naming his movies.They are often poetic like Mouna raagam, Kannaththil Muthtamittal etc. Aidha ezhuthu was a great choice as well considering the theme of the movie. In contrast Kamal has been disappointing. Avvai Shamughi is the worst title for a movie, I dont care if he wanted to honor someone.He has just been having his character names as movie titles just like most heros/directors do these days. Adhula kooda originality illa.
- From: Muthupandi (@ 192.138.110.8)
on: Mon Aug 16 04:44:44 EDT 2004
Selvaraghavan- Thulluvadho iLamai, kaadhal kondaen, 7GRC. All nice lovely subjects. Very decent movies that even new born babies can watch.
Shankar and SJ Surya- Cheeeeeeee..Matter padam directors
Selvaraghavan will go the cheeee group the moment he changes the MD. Even if he uses SA Rajkumar as MD, he will become matter movie director.
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Maniratnam copied from Godfather etc etc etc..
KK Nagar la nadandha uNmai sambavam pathi padam edutha aaaha oho..Real life la irundhu copy adikalaam. Famous novels la irundhu copy adikalaam.
But foreign movies inspire panni padam edutha udane cry foul..
Padam title la enna irukku. I think Virumandi would have been a hit even it had been named as Dr Krishnasamy or Dr Ramdas.
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