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COPYING - IN TAMIL FILM HISTORY

Topic started by s.senthilkumar (@ 203.197.154.163) on Mon Jan 24 07:23:36 EST 2000.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

i think "copying" is there for a long time in tamil film history.Here we discuss the tamil songs copied from others.

For a compilation of copied/inspired songs: http://copied.newtfmpage.com

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• From: subbudu (@ 12.28.181.2) on: Wed May 22 17:05:31 EDT 2002
  
  IR's repeat
  
  "vArAyO vAnmadhi" - Pagal Nilavu, charanam atleast the starting is same as charanam of "Theertha Karaiyinilae shenbaga pushpangallE" from Thaipongal.
  
  
• From: Common Friend (@ 203.197.141.186) on: Thu May 23 07:08:19 EDT 2002
  
  Karthik S:
  Where are you..?
  
  
• From: Nane than (@ 203.197.138.199) on: Fri May 24 04:14:31 EDT 2002
  
  In King film, "Sagiyae Pogathae" song in
  the female part is like "Megam Karukuthu..."..
  
  But that film is from deva ..what is the original version of this song..
  
  
• From: Harini Rangarajan (@ 203.199.236.230) on: Mon May 27 22:22:21 EDT 2002
  
  How to play the songs ?
  
  
• From: Karthik S (@ 164.164.82.29) on: Tue May 28 05:56:19 EDT 2002
  
  The music in the beginning of the song 'Malayoram maanguruvi' from Enga Thambi (Prashanth) definitely seems inspired. I think its a WCM piece, have also heard it as a mobile ring tone. The progression is very very familiar and have heard it in many interludes....anybody know its name?
  
  
• From: K. SRIDAR (@ 203.197.138.172) on: Tue May 28 06:03:04 EDT 2002
  
  Another Copy:
  Muquabula Muquabula (ARR)Film: Kadalan
  copied from
  'Asaiye Alaipolae' - Film Thai Pirantha Vazhi Pirakkum.
  
  Sent by K. Sridar.
  
  
• From: Karthik S (@ 164.164.82.29) on: Tue May 28 06:34:25 EDT 2002
  
  K Sridar:
  
  Wow!!
  
  
• From: pradeep (@ 203.199.12.50) on: Tue May 28 07:01:13 EDT 2002
  
  HI friendz,
  
  It waqs me who said that TITANIC resembles may madham's minnale song........
  
  Just hear and be true ,,,........
  
  Foreigners also copy from us.......
  
  Pradeep R
  
  
• From: OISG (@ 193.188.97.152) on: Tue May 28 10:06:24 EDT 2002
  
  What a relief! S Karthik is back with a nice rejoinder!
  
  Long time no see!Something to do with Deva ,Sirpy,SAR?
  
  
• From: Ramki (@ 161.150.2.250) on: Tue May 28 12:09:03 EDT 2002
  
  From latest Vikatan
  
  http://www.vikatan.com/av/2002/jun/02062002/av0906.shtml
  
  
• From: B.J.Jayabalan (@ 61.1.210.220) on: Tue May 28 21:35:58 EDT 2002
  
  Anubhavam pudumai avalidam kandaen from Kathlika Neramillai is a Spanish song
  Palinkinal oru Maligai too is a copied song
  
  
• From: K. SRIDAR (@ 203.197.138.172) on: Wed May 29 09:36:14 EDT 2002
  
  From: K. SRIDAR
  
  Thanks Karthik !
  
  did you notice 'Irubadhu Kodi Nilavugal' (Thullatha Manamum Thullum-SAR) firstline (Anupallavi) resembles '..... Kolampodum Nanangal .....'(from Thogai Ilamail Adi Varuguthu' - Payanangal Mudivathillai-Ilayaraja).
  
  SRIDHAR
  
  
• From: jazzfan (@ 209.130.217.102) on: Wed May 29 10:31:54 EDT 2002
  
  Palinkinal oru Maligai is a Jazz standard.
  Using a jazz standard cannot be called as copy.
  
  
• From: Karthik S (@ 164.164.82.29) on: Wed May 29 22:46:08 EDT 2002
  
  Sridhar:
  
  I was actually being sarcastic! Guess it didnt come through quite that way!
  
  Also the other 2 songs you mentioned might be based on the same raaga.
  
  
• From: NagaS (@ 203.195.223.210) on: Thu May 30 03:24:26 EDT 2002
  
  TFM to Ad World Copy ?
  
  Anybody saw the latest Advertisement for Kissan FruitKick ? (During yesterdays India - WI Cricket Match ...)
  
  The song which they have used for this Ad. is exact ditto of IR's classic, 'PuththamPuthu Kaalai' ... Very well sung by Kavitha Krishnamoorthy (Or is it Sadhana Sargam ?) and fits to the Ad. theme very well !
  
  But Is it a COPY ? or somebody reused it with IR's permission ?
  
  
• From: Nane than (@ 203.197.138.199) on: Thu May 30 04:15:53 EDT 2002
  
  NagaS
  
  They might just reuse that song as it suits that ad..we cant tell it as a copy
  
  
• From: NagaS (@ 203.195.223.210) on: Thu May 30 04:18:50 EDT 2002
  
  Nane than,
  
  is it ? ... I doubt it ... if that is the case, Harris Jayaraj using ARR's 'Leo Coffee' tune for his majnu song will also be termed as 'okay' ... its a bad trend, isn't it ?
  
  NagaS
  
  
• From: Karthik S (@ 164.164.82.29) on: Thu May 30 04:25:43 EDT 2002
  
  NagaS:
  
  I saw that advt too. I dont think it could be called a copy. Advertisements have used this technique for a long time...that is using a film song or adapting it to their needs.
  
  Yes, there was one allegation that IR borrowed 'putham puthu kaalai' from George Gershwin's 'Rhapsody in blue'. Tried hearing it - absolutely no truth in the allegation. It remains an IR classic.
  
  The advt. agency need not get IR's permission as far as I know, just the record label's permission is enough. Moreover this would ideally be called a 'remix' (as against that Brittania Chai Biskoot advt, where in the hindi version they used a RDB number and for the tamil version I think an old Sivaji song IIRR - here it was used as-is in the background! They sure require permission from the record label to do this!), so I dont think they'd need to go thru elaborate permission procedures!
  
  
• From: Karthik S (@ 164.164.82.29) on: Thu May 30 04:33:23 EDT 2002
  
  On the same note of advts., seen the Murugan servoware advts? It uses the original of IR's Murattu Kaalai number 'entha poovilum vaasam undu' - that is Antonio Ruiz Pipo's Cancione et Danza. The advt has a local version of Cancione, someone re-playing it in a different instrument! But same tune! You'd easily trace IR's number from it!
  
  You could catch the advt in K TV at about 7:35 to 7:40 PM - during the rerun of AVM's 'Sondham'.
  
  
• From: OISG (@ 193.188.97.152) on: Thu May 30 04:51:35 EDT 2002
  
  There are many cases of Film songs used in Ads.
  
  1.Matiz used the full "chinna Chinna Asai"
  2.The stupid "Nutrine" ad for Asai has "thinna Thinna asai"
  3.The recent Renault ad using some Deva song
  4.MDH masala(?) using RDBs "Yeh Sham Mastani"-the whistle part
  5.The ad that comes in TRT channel for a Cocunut oil using Vidya sagar s "Vedham" song (Malai katru vanthu)
  6.Nanne munna bache there mutti me kya hai - the old hindi song for some choclate ad in 1980s.
  7.The cooler /AC ad using "Kanne Kalai mane"
  8.Coke ad using "Kaho na Pyar hey" using innstruments like Dilruba/sarangi.
  So it is not a new pheno.
  
  
• From: ? (@ 212.72.11.67) on: Thu May 30 05:22:13 EDT 2002
  
  refresh
  
  
• From: Venkatesh (@ 212.72.11.67) on: Thu May 30 05:23:44 EDT 2002
  
  OISG,
  How abt the Pepsi advt with Nenjil jil jil?
  
  
• From: NagaS (@ 203.195.223.210) on: Thu May 30 05:56:24 EDT 2002
  
  Thanks Karthik S & OSIG for the 'informative' posts :-)
  
  Venkatesh,
  
  I think All madhavan movies are sponsored by Pepsi and they even advertise for the movie along with their brand. (Bru did this for Alai Payuthey and Thenali)
  
  NagaS
  
  
• From: Ram (@ 63.161.26.234) on: Thu May 30 06:12:03 EDT 2002
  
  Guys,
  Remembaer "Pyar hua ik Raar Hua" in Nirodh:-)probably one of the first of this kind.
  
  
• From: tester (@ 212.72.11.67) on: Thu May 30 07:35:21 EDT 2002
  
  test
  
  
• From: Vj (@ 61.11.77.9) on: Thu May 30 07:56:22 EDT 2002
  
  yaarpa indha tester? imsai thaanga mudialai.. postum pannaama.. perum sollaama... chumma "test"... chai.
  
  
• From: Karthik S (@ 164.164.82.29) on: Fri May 31 03:05:54 EDT 2002
  
  The Chitra solo in Azhagan, 'Thathithom' was literally a musical feast...an exceptionally beautiful composition. There was an attempt by Margadhamani to fuse that very-carnatic tune (based on raag Dharmavathy) with a western tune right towards the end for a few seconds.
  
  Till date, I'm not sure what made him copy Michael Jackson's Liberian Girl for this miniscule part!
  
  I've added the closing segment of the Azhagan song along with the beginning just to make sure you identify which song I'm talking about!
  
  
• From: Karthik S (@ 164.164.82.29) on: Fri May 31 03:07:04 EDT 2002
  
  Sorry forgot the URL....I know that its all over this thread, but just in case!
  
  http://www.iespana.es/i2fs
  
  --Karthik
  
  
• From: MS (@ 200.221.10.240) on: Fri May 31 14:43:37 EDT 2002
  
  Happened to listen to "Yeh laal rang kab muje chodega" by Kishore kumar. The lines are exactly
  
  "mayakkam thandhadhu yaar thamizo kaviyo"
  
  But obviously SPB's rendition had been lilnearized by KK.
  
  donno who lifted from whom.
  
  
• From: sarat (@ 67.33.108.170) on: Fri May 31 15:31:12 EDT 2002
  
  kattipudi da from Kushi copied from "Nahin Nahin" from Jawani Diwani
  
  
  
  
• From: Karthik S (@ 203.200.0.243) on: Sun Jun 2 03:36:04 EDT 2002
  
  Happened to see a promo for Ajit's next release, Raja. Music by SAR. The song featured was a DITTO lift of an old Hindi song...dunno which one at this point, gotto see the promo again!
  
  
• From: Karthik S (@ 203.200.0.243) on: Sun Jun 2 03:37:57 EDT 2002
  
  There was a message about the old MGR song 'naan aanayittal' from Enga veettu pillai in this forum a couple of years back. Somebody had posted a Spanish song which sounded exactly like the interludes that appear after the words 'naan aanayittaal....'. I searched through this forum quite a bit, but couldnt trace that particular message. Could somebody help?
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 68.51.203.216) on: Sun Jun 2 04:26:22 EDT 2002
  
  Karthik, the thathithom-Liberian Girl one is a good catch, even though its just towards the end of the tamil song
  
  
• From: Veera (@ 61.11.80.41) on: Sun Jun 2 07:02:43 EDT 2002
  
  Yes,Annamalai annamalai song(Deva music) --- prelude is Beethovan's 5th Symphony
  
  
  
• From: Venkatesh (@ 212.72.11.67) on: Sun Jun 2 08:05:47 EDT 2002
  
  Did anybody mention here about the Machanai Paatheengala song played for Britannia Chai Biskoot ad? Can it be termed a copy?
  
  
• From: Vinodkannan.D (@ 203.90.89.139) on: Sun Jun 2 10:19:54 EDT 2002
  
  "kattipudi kattipudi da" in kushi by deva has the same
  base beat as in "maasi masam alana ponnu" in dharmadurai by ilaiyaraaja.
  
  
  
• From: Karthik S (@ 164.164.82.29) on: Mon Jun 3 01:30:57 EDT 2002
  
  Any update on the 'enga veettu pillai' song? Please do let me know!
  
  

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