Topic started by greatest_spb_fan (@ 212.2.14.241) on Thu Aug 2 04:57:19 EDT 2001.
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why don't anybody start a thread like 'SPB the greatest singer that India had ever produced', pls
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- From: Raghu (@ 217.158.120.226)
on: Thu Oct 31 06:39:08 EST 2002
ST;
>> Fan has a point, Southies are not recognised world wide like northies, every one in west knows bolly wood, how many know kollywood?
The whole of India knows BIG B, how many know Sivaji?
- From: st (@ 212.153.190.3)
on: Thu Oct 31 07:04:48 EST 2002
About recognition its partly true. But then it varies.
Andhra people feel more about NTR than Shivaji and in Karnataka it is Rajkumar.Forget north u could have a near civil war if u fight over who is better among the three. So why blame north.
But if the talent is there then it gets recognised. There is a "devoted" non tamil manirathnam crowd in calcutta,bombay. They just hope his movie gets dubbed and they dont mind travelling distance to go and watch it over and over.
IR is great and he doesnt require anyone's certificate for that. But how can north be labelled indifferent to him when he hardly composes there. ARR gets his due in north bcos he composes for north and roja just happened to cut the boundaries. We just have to think the other way round to understand.
Continue later .. I wish all could enjoy all good things.
Happy dewaali for now...
- From: Raghu (@ 217.158.120.226)
on: Thu Oct 31 07:33:06 EST 2002
ST;
happy diwali 2 u as well :)
- From: Thiru (@ 63.95.59.197)
on: Thu Oct 31 15:27:53 EST 2002
guys,
I was listening to this wonderful song by Mahesh... a very good number... listen to spb from 3:46 to 4:04....he's amazing
- From: Thiru (@ 63.95.59.197)
on: Thu Oct 31 15:32:19 EST 2002
Sorry forgot the link...:)
http://www.newtfmpage.com/cgi-bin/stream.pl?url=http://www.dhool.com/sotd/thath.rm
- From: rags (@ 63.100.100.5)
on: Thu Oct 31 16:20:13 EST 2002
Thiru wrong link :-)
http://www.newtfmpage.com/cgi-bin/stream.pl?url=http://www.dhool.com/sotd/udai.rm
- From: Kaumudi (@ 136.142.153.250)
on: Thu Oct 31 17:26:36 EST 2002
st
Nicely said, in your recent long post, that is! SPB is part of the rainbow of the legendary musicians that we have all around the country in all the languages. If someone wants to make irresponsible statements without listening with an open mind, then God help that person. It is of no use indulging in a discussion/argument/conversation in such a scenario.
- From: Ali (@ 149.99.115.38)
on: Thu Oct 31 18:09:53 EST 2002
Raghu the un-exposed to all Indian music Fan !
I never said Rafi wanted to be like SPB. If you read properly i have said Rafi's idol was K.L. Saigal and he always wanted to be like him. When i said "not SPB" at the end i meant that his idol was not SPB as yous ay. First of all this issue is so made up that there's no point in even discussing it. Secondly, i never offended you and i never thought of offending you either ok. I was just really angry over some foolish statements made here as were others and it was just an outburst like others who have posted. So take it from me, i don't have anything against you, but only your comments. Anyways.....happy diwali !!
>>Otherwise his image and popularity will be much more than rafi,kishore, lata,asha etc
Fan, how can you say this ?. This is purely a subjective opinion !. St made a point in saying that he and others have already tried in taking Rafi's songs and all other singer's songs (all vocal quality songs) and giving them to people who are not conversant with the language that the singers are singing in. They were just there to hear the songs and base an opinion on who they liked the best. Overwhelmingly, Rafi came out 82 % over all the others. Anyways, enough discussing this.....its getting a bit too out of hand !!
- From: Thiru (@ 63.95.59.197)
on: Fri Nov 1 09:27:24 EST 2002
rags,
thanks for the link.... i was sleeping probably when I posted that link :)
- From: satyavaan (@ 199.67.138.75)
on: Fri Nov 1 11:43:28 EST 2002
Ali,
SPB rafi type songsum easiya paduvar, kishore type songum easya paduvar. Rafiyalla kishore type songs padamudiyma, illa kishoreala rafi type songs padamudiyma. Rafi iduvarikum kuralai matri edavadu songs padiirrukara?.
Ellorum nalls padagar than, SPB kongam usathi, enna avarala ella stylium pada mudiyum.
- From: Ram Lakshman (@ 195.92.67.72)
on: Sat Nov 2 04:46:49 EST 2002
Satyavan;
well said!, SPB simply rulzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!, Rafi & Kishore were damn good singers, but SPB is above evry one.
- From: Vyas kumar (@ 61.1.248.241)
on: Sat Nov 2 05:29:24 EST 2002
Nothing to compare with SPB. The ultimate singer and the recordist. Listen to the songs like "POOVIL VANDU MOODUM KANDU", "CHILANGAIYITTAL ORU MATHU"........... MORE AND MORE .. CANNOT STOP
- From: janadhan (@ 212.217.67.10)
on: Sat Nov 2 05:29:49 EST 2002
satyavaan ..
U r having a wrong notion that SPB can sing like Kishore ..leave alone Rafi. His rendering of Kishores song in a concert celebrating Kishore Kumar was not at all good (i wanted to use pathetic but that wont be nice as SPB is a great singer in his own rights). If thats the way he can sing KKs songs then regarding Rafis songs i need not say anything.
- From: Raghu (@ 217.158.120.226)
on: Mon Nov 4 05:42:14 EST 2002
Janadhan;
Kishore is NO big deal, but Rafi & SPB r a BIG deal!, Do u remember the song in the film "Saagar" where SPB, Kishore sings a duet, SPB clearly out performs kishore in all aspects, it is good to compare SPB, with Rafi or KJY, but very silly to compare with Kishore Kumar!
How many SPB songs can kishore Kumar sing?
just a kind request :)
- From: janardhan (@ 212.217.67.10)
on: Mon Nov 4 07:24:00 EST 2002
Raghu
If you are really talking about the song "yunhi gaate raho" from saagar then I really donot understand how u say SPB outperforms KK. KK is equally good at song rendering if not better and surely overall his performance is better due to his clear hindi diction.
You ask me how many SPB songs KK can sing, I ask you how many KK songs can SPB sing. I can show no proof of how good KK can sing but I can surely show proof of how goos SPB cannot sing. I guess it was a concert to felicitate either RDBurman or KK and there SPB sang KKs songs and they were although not bad but nothing as good as KKs original. You might say that singing on stage is not as easy as recording in a professional studio and thats a valid point too. But still one could feel how SPB cannot sing KKs songs. It applies to not just SPB but the so many KK clones from Kumar Sanu to Abhijeet.
- From: Raghu (@ 217.158.120.226)
on: Mon Nov 4 09:15:47 EST 2002
Janardhan;
No, I don't agree with u about KK, at all
any ways happy diwali 2 u all :0
- From: janardhan (@ 212.217.67.10)
on: Mon Nov 4 09:25:23 EST 2002
Raghu,
Its not a problem. Different people have different perceptions. After all these things are very subjective. I feel it this way and respect your school of thought.
Finally what matters is that the music should be good, whether is has been composed by IR or ARR, sung by SPB or Rafi, pennned by Vairamuthu or Kannadasan.
Happy Diwali to you all
Janardhan
- From: Raghu (@ 217.158.120.226)
on: Mon Nov 4 09:41:23 EST 2002
Janardhan;
No Problem, :)
- From: satyavaan (@ 199.67.138.75)
on: Mon Nov 4 18:01:01 EST 2002
Janardhan,
Ungoludiya comparsion sarillai. SPB hindi songs padinal, adhil accent irrukkum. Andha accentoda endha songs kettalum pidikama poga chance irruku.
Kishore tamil pada vaithal eppdai irrukum?.
Nann kishore type songs innu sonna, adhu fast paced songs, dance songs, yodelling, kurali modulate panni paduvathu madhariana songs.
Indha madri songs SPB yum alagha paduvar, ade samayam rafi sytle melodiousa soft songs avarala padamudiyim. Enna porutha varikum spb is what you get, when you roll rafi and Kishore into one.
- From: Raghu (@ 217.158.120.226)
on: Tue Nov 5 04:47:31 EST 2002
Satyavaan;
well said :)
- From: Raghu (@ 217.158.120.226)
on: Tue Nov 5 05:01:14 EST 2002
Here is an article about SPB
http://www.spbala.com/Melody_lane-Oct162002.asp
- From: sunil (@ 203.199.213.5)
on: Tue Nov 5 05:37:30 EST 2002
dont compare him with best singer in our country Sri jayachandran.
upasana upasana ithu dhanyamamorupasana
unaratte ushassupolunaratte
oru yugachethana unaratte
upasana upasana
sathyam mayakkumarunninte chirakil
swargathu parakkumi nattil illatha
swargathu parakkumi naattil
swapnam marikkumi nattil
sargaswaroopiyam shasthram nirmikkum
agnikundangalkkullil
manushya-a-a-aa-
he manushya-a-a-a-aa-a-aa-
valicheriyoo ninte mukhammooti
kalam sharashayya theerthu mayangumi
kanatha kurukshethrabhoovil kaliyugam
kanatha kurukshethra bhoovil
socratisumar dhyanichirikkumi
swarnasamanathinnarukil
manushya-a-a-a--aa
he manushya-a-a-aaa-aaa
valicheriyoo ninte vishapathram
This is the song i like most.There is a request to all jayachandranfans.Please follow this--
unaratte ushassupolunaratte
oru yugachethana unaratte
come on wake up come along with us/
C SUNIL KUMAR
- From: Raghu (@ 217.158.120.226)
on: Tue Nov 5 06:13:08 EST 2002
(@ 203.199.213.5)
get lost from this thread, u use the same IP address under different names to fool ppl,
pls GET a life
- From: janardhan (@ 212.217.67.10)
on: Tue Nov 5 11:56:42 EST 2002
satyavaan
SPB yaale KK mathiri nalla pada mudiyum yendru sollareengalle .. oru vaati naan sonna antha concert songs keetu paar .. appam theriyum avaralle pada mudiyathu yendru. athu mattum ille KK aale soft songs kooda superaa pada mudyumm .. "amar prem", "kati patang" mathiri neraye padangallil avar arumayaaye padi irukuraar. Rafi better singer thaan aanal KK iruntha variety rombha jaasti.
"spb is what you get, when you roll rafi and Kishore into one. ". I cannot agree with that. Probably SPB is one singer who can cover 60% of the spectrum of songs sung by KK and 70% of spectrum of songs sung by Rafi. So he still has to cover lots of grounds to be equal to both rolled into one.
- From: Lord LabakuDas (@ 12.162.224.5)
on: Tue Nov 5 12:14:39 EST 2002
To my knowledge SPB is already covering a lots of grounds whenever he sits,stands or lies down..:-)
But i can surely say that if you roll Rafi & KK into one that will equal to SPB by size...
..again NOM to Raghu Sir..
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