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Yesterday - Illayarajah Today - A.R. Rahman Tomorrow - Yuvan Shankar Raja

Topic started by Pras (@ 66.185.84.71) on Sat Jan 25 08:43:29 EST 2003.
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Who Do You Think Is The Yesterday, Today, Tomorrow MD of TFM?

I think its:
Yesterday - Illayarajah
Today - A.R. Rahman
Tomorrow - Yuvan Shankar Raja

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Responses:

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• From: Speaker (@ 203.126.142.232) on: Thu Aug 7 01:19:07 EDT 2003
  
  "subash ghai sat in ARR's waiting room for 2 days to meet him.">>> Poor, Anbalaya Prabakaran, he waited in varandah (not inside the room) for PARASURAM...
  
  
• From: N Teja (@ 131.170.6.142) on: Thu Aug 7 02:07:00 EDT 2003
  
  guys,
  
  wow, i didnt know IR had a cutout of his for a movie. thats great...., wait a minute ...... who was the hero of the movie....,, ya thats right ramarajan. i really cant stop laughing. you actually gave that as an example.... thats really pathetic. ARR's cutout was for amir khan's movie. to have a 50 feet high cutout outside the theater for an Amir khan's movie is something cos he is one of the top stars in India. now compare that to ramarajan. the only big name in that movie (karagattakaran) was IR so they had to do it.
  
  
• From: rajasaranam (@ 210.214.131.185) on: Thu Aug 7 02:40:07 EDT 2003
  
  N Teja,
  
  once Ramarajan was a super star in TN.of course his super star status was a gift frm IR. Regarding glorification of a MD, no other MD in indian Scenario or may be world scenario hav reached wat IR had when he was at the peak. many directors and actors looked at IR as god. every movie sold jus witht he name of IR on it. the responsibility of the success of a movie solely dependent upon IR. the posters contained IR's picture in a bigger size than the hero's for many films. even a magazine titled 'ISaignani' was attempted by his fans for which IR refused to support.any audio shop had IR's face painted along the shop name. this culture has not changed till now and i notice still IR's face being painted on such shops.
  look at any satellite channels film music competition programmes there will be a large IR face painted as the backdrop near that a smaller sized ARR face and MSV face will be painted. ive watched this in suntv earlier now they changed the whole backdrop pattern. but in vijay tv its still as i mentioned.
  the glorification reached its peak when rajkiran entered the scene. the movies titles started with "isaignani ilaiyarajavin isayil".
  even today there r people who wud not opt any other MD except IR.[ atleast they shud hav KR or YSR, such is their devotion]
  rajkiran, fazil, kasthuriraaja, balumahendra, bala, vinayan,
  i can come up with more names. can u come up with a name otehr than shankar?[ MR will not be applicable cos he will change his MD very soon keep looking for the news]
  
  
• From: Speaker (@ 203.126.142.232) on: Thu Aug 7 02:42:46 EDT 2003
  
  NT>> Your post is funny. You have no idea how IR is viewed in TN. When IR name appear in title whistle blow thru the roof man. You have to be there to believe it.(Dont come up with same funda TN recognition is nothing) You accept that only name known inthat movie is IR and you know Karagattakkan is a superduper hit. that is the power of IR, he single handedly take a movie and give a hit. This is what xml trying to say all along...
  
  
• From: rajasaranam (@ 210.214.128.96) on: Thu Aug 7 02:47:11 EDT 2003
  
  Paran,
  
  symphony is not a tamil cultural music,i agree but IR had tried to include indian or tamil folk rhythm patterns in the RPH he scored earlier this was disclosed by john scott the man behind that project.
  recently i had a talk with the man behind Thiruvaasagam project. he said us not to expect WCM based symphony but a symphony based on tamil cultural music.
  
  
• From: rajasaranam (@ 210.214.128.96) on: Thu Aug 7 02:48:54 EDT 2003
  
  added to speaker no other movie has broken the records of kargattakaran.
  
  
• From: N Teja (@ 131.170.6.147) on: Thu Aug 7 02:57:29 EDT 2003
  
  rajasaranam,
  
  record for what, can you be more specific?
  
  N Teja
  
  
• From: Speaker (@ 203.126.142.232) on: Thu Aug 7 03:21:36 EDT 2003
  
  NT before you keep popping up with more question, lets freeze the point about IR popularity and capability on pulling greatest hit single handedly.
  
  
• From: Venkatesh (@ 212.72.11.66) on: Thu Aug 7 04:02:42 EDT 2003
  
  N.Teja,
  
  The biggest cutout was kept for IR's movie Thayamma. Except Anandbabu, all other faces were new for this movie. It was directed by Gopi (Bhimsingh's son).
  
  
  
• From: Venkatesh (@ 212.72.11.66) on: Thu Aug 7 04:07:12 EDT 2003
  
  This is an excerpt from the article written by
  MICHAEL N TOWNEND who was the Orchestration Adviser and Music Producer for the Symphony project with the RPO. An eminent composer, orchestrator and arranger, he works in a wide spectrum of music from Jazz, Pop, and Classical to films and TV serials. He shares his experience in this article which was published in the 1993 Autumn News Letter of the Association of Professional Composers (APC), London.
  
  The first eye-opener for me was learning that this particular composer was so popular with the film-going audiences in Southern India (whose enthusiastic appetite for the cinema equals only their love of cricket) that his photograph appears on the posters, billboards and advertising for the film - as large as the photos of the actors whose popularity and status he rivals. Apparently, his name attached to a film (and his picture on the publicity) guarantees the film producer at least five additional weeks retention in the cinemas. The public adores him, and as such, producers are constantly beating a path to his door; he can and does command as high a fee as he considers a film producer’s budget can stand - and he gets it.
  
  I tried to describe for him the difference in the situation over here or in America; how many of the general public know or even care who wrote the music for most of our films, let alone would recognize and appreciate the composer’s picture on the billboards? I would imagine quite a few people would have heard of John Williams, but would they know what he looks like?
  
  
• From: rajasaranam (@ 210.214.131.4) on: Thu Aug 7 08:36:40 EDT 2003
  
  NT,
  
  the film ran for more than a year breaking the record of 'ulagam sutrum valiban' in madurai natana and natiya theatre. subsequently for Ramarajan the success was so overwhelming and money spining that he went all the way in buying that theatre.
  
  
• From: Music4ever (@ 165.121.136.183) on: Thu Aug 7 09:30:55 EDT 2003
  
  "Anyways, ARR is doing okay..I am impressed more with his success than with his music. His success is like that of new electronic/auto companies after liberalisation when people flocked to buy these new cars/motorbikes/stereos."
  
  Can we be a little more charitable to an achiever who lasted for ten years at the top? IR wins over ARR by his Himalayan contribution to TFM, not by showing ARR in poor light as above.
  
  
• From: V (@ 147.129.99.180) on: Thu Aug 7 15:38:55 EDT 2003
  
  Well said Music4Ever!
  
  
  It is just appaling and unbelievable that MOST IR fans try to loft IR's merit only by bashing ARR!
  
  Have IR's achievements become so cheap that one has to elevate his standards only by bad-mouthing other MDs?
  
  My respect for IR grew plentily when I heard his philosophy and read his books.
  
  However it is really sad that he has some sick fans who use words like "paraiyan" "punde" etc. IR is more than a human being and he is very very spiritual and down to earth. But isn't it a sad and sorrowful truth that he has some fans who are actually fleas using words like "paraiyan", "punde"?
  
  Hmmm his fans talk about tamil culture and its magnificent heritage. But god only knows hopw the same heart tries to use such uncultures words. Have their parents not taught them what the world is?
  
  
• From: rajasaranam (@ 210.214.131.210) on: Thu Aug 7 16:01:03 EDT 2003
  
  V,
  
  iam pasting an ARR fans post here. shall i attribute this to ARR or to fans like u
  __________________________________________________ From: xxx (@ 193.60.168.232) on: Thu Aug 7 03:01:09 EDT 2003
  
  
  to all the fu**ers and Dic* Su*kers.....just listen to the muzic...
  u gals su*ck, old farts and old mojo's get out of here!!!!!
  These songs aint for u sick, old D*cks, its for us....
  So just a vi*gr* pill and just shank-in !!!!!!!
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  lol i noticed a pecularity here V. IRs fans r using tamil words like paraiyan and punde, and
  ARR fans r using words in english.
  
  
• From: V (@ 147.129.99.180) on: Thu Aug 7 17:03:54 EDT 2003
  
  rajasaranam
  
  But the same ARR fans never go and talk about tamil heritage, culture etc. It is you IR fans who cliam to be the fans of IR the promoter of divine tamil culture and on the other side your hypocrisy is wonderfully revealed when you use these uncouth tamil words.
  
  You have got me wrong again (as usual)
  I never attributed any of those tamil uncouth words to IR. In fact I said just the opposite! I said for a spiritually disciplined soul like IR who is down to earth what a pity he has fans like this!
  
  You continue your passionate ARR-hatred again and again and again and you want to attribute some moron's aspersions on ARR???
  
  How silly and stupid!
  
  
• From: k (@ 192.138.150.249) on: Thu Aug 7 20:10:41 EDT 2003
  
  hey guys (Music4Ever and V) ..did you guys miss the previous part of my post. I SPECIFICALLY enjoined that we should not put down ARR to praise IR. I wrote that we should be proud of ARR. Why do you guys selectively quote me ?
  
  Yes, I am more impressed with ARR's success than his music. We all have our subjective preferences to music style. His success is phenomenal and that is why I compared with the liberalisation of the economy. I do think it is a good analogy.
  
  
• From: Music4ever (@ 165.121.140.148) on: Thu Aug 7 20:56:01 EDT 2003
  
  K, my view is this: It is probably next to impossible to replicate the Maestro's output. He has composed music for all kinds of listeners, most of them being really fabulous. Talking trash about his music is bad and really in poor taste. (The other day I was humming the song Nee-dhane endhan ponn vasandham!) On the other hand, composing songs like Anjali Anjali (Duet), EnnavaLe adi ennavaLe (Kaadhalan?), NarumugaiyE NarumugaiyE (Iruvar), Vellai PookaL (KM), among several other good ones, is also not easy. It seems to me that you attribute ARR's success entirely to some stroke of luck, and that his talent and hard work are hardly germane. I felt that your statement smacked of a teeny weeny bit of condescension. May be I was wrong and you only feel that for his talent he should not be getting so much success.
  
  
• From: Speaker (@ 203.126.142.232) on: Thu Aug 7 21:09:22 EDT 2003
  
  what a pity he has fans like this >>when you are around nothing can be more sorrowful!!
  Do you run any selection programme to whom should be fan of whom!, Deciding qualities!! Junk statement as usual!!
  The approach of fans are purely his/her decision!! When you make statement like this, check yourself!!It is fans who select whom they want to be fan of, not the personality decide who should be his/her fan!!
  BTW thanks for certifying IR is a good human being! without your word he may not achieved this quality!!
  
  

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