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SO BABA IS A FLOP?!

Topic started by SHIVA (@ 203.199.228.78) on Tue Aug 20 00:56:26 EDT 2002.
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barring all barriers, there is an universal report that BABA IS A FLOP. not just from laymen, even his ardent fans are absolutely unhappy with the film. spiritual leaders and severe religious people are angry with rajini. For people who beleived that rehmanis going to be the sving grace, he was the greatest disappointment. There is no commitment or seriousness in his music. Pls read reviews in Anandha vikatan and Kumudham. Nice to know that the press is bold to express their views. Anyway for the sake of clippings, movie rights and votes SUN TV will place it at no 1 in all countdowns for the next one year. But what we want to know as ardent rajini fans is : RAJINI SIR, ARE YOU REALLY HAPPY ABOUT THE OUTCOME OF THE MOVIE? DID YOU KNOW THAT THIS IS WHAT IS COMING OR YOU ALSO FEEL BETRAYED AND CHEATED?

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• From: !:) (@ 67.241.57.200) on: Sun Aug 25 11:03:54 EDT 2002
  
  I wonder why admin has not yet closed this thread
  
  
• From: Prabu (@ 67.24.60.151) on: Sun Aug 25 12:37:31 EDT 2002
  
  Baba flop is a good message to Film industry. Just dont get top heroes and expect the movie to run. Good story line and dialogue is a must, no matter who is acting...
  
  
• From: Kumar (@ 65.69.58.115) on: Sun Aug 25 13:39:51 EDT 2002
  
  "Baba is a Flop" what is the next thread by this guy. "Sun rises in the east"? Let us not discuss about obvious things.
  
  
• From: Sathyamoorthy (@ 194.170.1.132) on: Sun Aug 25 14:17:56 EDT 2002
  
  Baba Flop is good news for Tamils.. Iniyavathu Paamara Thamizhanukku soodu soranai vanthathil santhosham. Baba Imayamalaikke poi tholayattum..
  Illai endraal... Soranai ulla thamizhalan "Baba" vai Karnatakavukke virattavendum..
  
  
• From: jagan (@ 65.69.58.115) on: Sun Aug 25 21:39:27 EDT 2002
  
  Ideal name should have been "Flop"ba
  
  
• From: PoPs (@ 24.126.28.59) on: Sun Aug 25 22:12:21 EDT 2002
  
  The sucess for Baba is Soranai ulla tamilargazhum, soranai illatha tamizhargazhum (satyamoorthy ayya avargalym)parthu rasikarathutan.
  Karnatakavukku veratta try pannunga. Baba hit ayoidum.
  
  
• From: a (@ 156.153.254.42) on: Mon Aug 26 03:36:55 EDT 2002
  
  Sankar
  Yes Music is a flop, but Rajini is always a hit.
  
  
• From: a (@ 156.153.254.42) on: Mon Aug 26 03:38:08 EDT 2002
  
  One suggestion:
  Why don't Rajani re-release Baba with IR music....
  
  
• From: Nijam (@ 61.6.38.132) on: Mon Aug 26 04:07:13 EDT 2002
  
  Hahahahahaahahahahahahahahahaha
  
  You mean another Hey Ram?
  
  Hahahahahaahahahahahahahahahaha
  
  The only thing good about Baba is its music. Look at the charts all over the world.
  
  
• From: RC (@ 128.107.253.40) on: Mon Aug 26 06:20:32 EDT 2002
  
  Check this out...
  http://www.rediff.com/entertai/2002/aug/26baba1.htm
  
  
• From: a (@ 156.153.254.42) on: Mon Aug 26 08:06:01 EDT 2002
  
  Nijam
  It is high time to now, u can wake up and see around the light. U r still in well only.
  
  
• From: Fliflo (@ 130.203.162.50) on: Mon Aug 26 08:11:24 EDT 2002
  
  
  Baba After 10 days-Tamilterra news:
  
  10 days after its release Baba, hype and hoopla is history. At the box-office the film has sunk without a trace, and its hero Rajnikanth is away in US in bereavement after the death of his spiritual guru. The 170 odd theatres screening Baba in Tamilnadu want to be compensated for their huge losses.
  
  Legally Rajnikanth is on safe grounds as he sold the film to the threatres on Mimnimum Guarantee(MG). He doesn't need to return even a single paisa, but in humanitarian grounds Rajni is likely to return a percentage of what they paid. Now 50 percent of what they paid has to be returned. Rajni the smart guy he is, knows that if he pays compensation they would immediately yank Baba off the theatres.
  
  As a part of his strategy to make the film run for atleast 50 days, in main stations he would delay the compensation package. Till then the theatres would be forced to screen the film!
  
  
• From: Stallion (@ 65.69.59.72) on: Mon Aug 26 09:27:15 EDT 2002
  
  Baba Movie and Music both compete with each other which is bad. Music emerges victorious. It has got the worst music for a Rajini movie
  
  
• From: rediff (@ 202.9.167.94) on: Mon Aug 26 09:56:42 EDT 2002
  
  The Baba phenomenon
  Could the hype around Tamil superstar Rajnikanth's film prove its undoing?
  
  
  N Sathiya Moorthy in Chennai
  
  Tamil superstar Rajnikanth's Baba was expected make a lot of money for its distributors and cinema halls, which in turn could be invested in other films by other actors, thus reversing the current negative growth of Tamil cinema.
  
  But the lukewarm response Baba has received has possibly taken with it the investments and earnings of the exhibitor and the distributor.
  
  The overseas rights of Baba were sold for a whopping Rs 60 million (approximately $1.2 million). However, initial reports do not seem very encouraging, and the fear is that the film may not make one-third its investment.
  
  
  
  According to trade estimates, Rajnikanth would have made up to Rs 500 million (approximately $10 million) on Baba against an investment of Rs 50 million (approximately $1 million), excluding the actor's payment. Others claim the expenses could have been as low as Rs 20 million (approximately $400,000), and the earnings as high as Rs 1 billion (approximately $ 20 million). The truth is estimated at somewhere in-between.
  
  Now, insiders say the film may not gross Rs 200 million (approximately $4 million) invested by distributors in Tamil Nadu, even if it recovers its initial shocks. They put the distributors' loss at about Rs 100 million (approximately $ 2 million). Reports also speak of the disappointing audio sales.
  
  This in spite of its music scored by A R Rahman; the audio rights were sold at Rs 30 million (approximately $600,000).
  
  Going by early reports, industry sources say Baba is a washout in the other three southern states --- Kerala, Karnataka and Andhra Pradesh --- too. Though it is too early to predict whether Baba would follow the footsteps of his earlier Pandiyan, which bombed a few years ago, it is not expected to repeat the success stories of his last two movies, Badsha and Padayappa, whose box-office records Baba was expected to break.
  
  Baba has not met the expectations of the thousands of Rajnikanth fans or the ordinary filmgoer, thanks to its jaded storyline and a faded Rajnikanth. Unfortunate, when you consider that Baba was launched amidst much hype --- Rajnikanth had decided to appear before the camera after three years (his last film was Padayappa).
  
  All about Baba
  There is no Rajni in Baba
  
  To Rajni with love
  
  The review
  
  Chennai wants Baba
  
  Rajni is back!
  
  
  MORE FEATURES...
  
  
  
  For the first time in Tamil cinema, advertisers sought to promote Baba as part of their campaigns. They entered into a contract with Rajnikanth's representatives, who legally barred others from using the logo, pictures and promotional material of the film to promote their products. In fact, even the tea and coffee served on the sets of Baba were sponsored, for which there was also a 'sponsorship fee' of sorts!
  
  Rumours are now on that Rajnikanth is said to be considering plans to launch his next movie already. There could be two options here: a mega-budget movie directed by Shankar, the man with the Midas touch in Tamil cinema. Though Shankar's Nayak, a Hindi remake of his megahit Mudhalvan did not fare well, he continues have the vision to plan big and convey a social theme through a purely commercial milieu.
  
  In fact, Shankar was earlier being considered for directing Rajnikanth's Baba. It was finally directed by Suresh Krissna, who had given such big hits as Badsha and Padayappa.
  
  The other option is for Rajnikanth to resurrect his earlier directors who had given box-office hits like Guru Sishyan with no political overtones or undertones.
  
  An industry insider says, "People have begun identifying Rajnikanth with socio-political punchlines, if not political themes and dialogues. A Rajnikanth movie bereft of a political message may not be well received. If people are looking for pure entertainment, they can turn to the newcomers and need not have to be satisfied with an aging Rajnikanth in comparison."
  
  Whatever the case may be, early commercial reports of Baba have not helped revive the hopes of the losing Tamil industry. "Rajni should have stuck to acting, without seeking to write the script and screenplay [of Baba]," asserts another industry source. "Given his image, no one had the courage to tell him what was wrong with both. No one really thought of the ordinary filmgoer or the Rajnikanth fan. Unfortunately, it is not just Rajnikanth who stands to suffer. The impact will be on Tamil cinema, and it is already in a bad situation."
  
  
  
• From: kk (@ ) on: Thu Sep 26 23:27:49 EDT 2002
  
  All the greats have their own failures.
  If there is a failure, then only the success can be enjoyed.
  All IS for good concerns.
  
  
• From: s.bengar maria jeen (@ 203.145.169.214) on: Fri Sep 27 02:23:44 EDT 2002
  
  i have not seen the movie yet, but i can say that
  my ideal that is rajini kanth cannot be wronge.
  best of luck for your next film .
  
  
• From: s.bengar maria jeen (@ 203.145.169.214) on: Fri Sep 27 02:29:16 EDT 2002
  
  i have not seen the movie,but i can say that my
  ideal that rajini kanth cannot be wronge.best of luck for your next movie.
  "inthe baba lata vandha latesta than varuvan"
  
  
• From: MUSIC LOVER (@ 213.189.83.103) on: Tue Oct 1 04:56:21 EDT 2002
  
  HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH ARR DISGRACE TO INDIA,I REMEMBER EARLIER KUPPAI PADAM'S OF RAJINIKANTH,THALAPATHI,MAAVEERAN,DHARMA DURAI WHICH WAS ALL MEGA HITS BCOS THERE WAS ONE NAME BEHIND MAESTRO ILAYARAJA,MR.RAJINIKANTH ADIGAMA AASAI PATTU U BOOKED ARR AND TODAY UR PAYING BACK THE CASSETTE COMPANY,MORAL OF THE STORY ARR COMPOSES MUSIC UR IN THE STREETS,EXAMPLE-BHARATHIRAJA,MANIRATHNAM,KADHIR,BALACHANDER,RAJINIKANTH,AM RATHNAM WAS BUT VIDYASAGAR SAVED HIM
  
  
• From: siva (@ 203.121.0.14) on: Tue Oct 1 05:38:13 EDT 2002
  
  rajini took the storyline from the book Autobiography of A Yogi by Yogananda Paramahansa and perverted the story to suite his own political interests.
  
  
• From: WN (@ 203.24.100.132) on: Tue Oct 1 05:42:54 EDT 2002
  
  For heaven's sake! Have u read AOAY???
  If u had, u wudnt even make a statement like that!!!!!!!!!
  
  

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