Topic started by PACHEI TAMILAN (@ 210.195.72.222) on Sun Dec 29 11:22:14 EST 2002.
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AR Rahman is a very talented music director .He is still the no>1 music director now comparing to others.
he has only a enemy in his field that is Harris Jeyaraj .Harris jeyaraj is Rahman's enemy not because he is good than AR0 Rahman but he is a copycat which always copies Rahman's music.
For the example : -
1.Adithadi Appatha (samurai) is copied from Tom Karuvil Erunthom (Star)
2.Poove vay pesum pothu(12B) is copied from Kandukondaen Kandukondaen(movie same)
3.Oh Mama Mama...(minnale) is a Rahman's tune but it had stealed by Harris Jeyaraj when he works with AR Rahman .
so,thats all the evidence of Harris jayaraj the great copycat.
AR RAHMAN IS THE GREATEST MUSIC DIRECTOR IN THE WHOLE INDIA.
vande mataram............
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- From: WN (@ 203.24.100.137)
on: Sat Jan 11 04:38:32 EST 2003
If the request was for a justification of the statement he is still no.1 md, then $ music companies are willing to pay him is a reliable gauge of his no.1 status. It reflects on the popularity of his songs, and hence his ranking among mds.
- From: ambleen (@ 202.156.2.138)
on: Sat Jan 11 09:15:57 EST 2003
John Williams earns more $ than Jerry Goldsmith. Its the publicity he gets from oscars, his association with big directors, concert hall perfomances, etc. But still that didn't stop film score lovers from knowing who is the master between these two. These music afficiandos didn't get fooled by commercialism.
- From: WN (@ 203.24.100.137)
on: Sat Jan 11 22:48:39 EST 2003
ambleen wat is your point? Are u agreeing a.r. is no.1 or r u going back to the same old argument tat being no.1 doesn't mean one is the best? (of course the latter didnt stop a.r's predecessors in TFM from being declared as no.1 in their time, did it?)
- From: ambleen (@ 202.156.2.138)
on: Sun Jan 12 00:59:38 EST 2003
My point is STATED as exactly as what I have QUOTED. Why bang your head trying so hard? Its a simple statement.
Like JW, ARR collects more $ than IR. That's all.
Like JG, IR collects more praises from music lovers for his quality in songs and BGM.
Like JW, ARR's songs are all nice & exciting in the begining but get 'lost' soon after into oblivion. Thanks to the majority who listen(who seem normally childish & think they are the unique youth of the nation but represent nothing).
Like JG, IR's 70/80's music are still being listened leave alone the rest.
- From: Youth (@ 210.186.61.102)
on: Sun Jan 12 07:29:20 EST 2003
From: Youth (@ 210.186.61.102) on: Sun Jan 12 07:10:07 EST 2003
Wonder who is the majority here?
Fans of unlistenable IR music who has pushed his marketability to almost zilch?
OR fans of ARR who has made him a superstar, beyond the dreams of his earlier generation?
Just as you can't keep talent down, you cannot push up mediocrity, even if you try very hard.
Too bad, HCIRFs. :)
From: Youth (@ 210.186.61.102) on: Sun Jan 12 07:12:02 EST 2003
Perfect statement Yaaro!
Going popularity and talent - ARR
Doing it for doing-it sake - IR
See how the mighty fall? :)
- From: ambleen (@ 202.156.2.138)
on: Sun Jan 12 08:15:51 EST 2003
"OR fans of ARR who has made him a superstar, beyond the dreams of his earlier generation?"
Precisely. The words has come out from the horse's mouth itself. Its you who make him a superstar and its confined to you & yourself only. Thanks for enhancing my/our point.
:)
- From: r (@ 203.124.234.162)
on: Sun Jan 12 09:19:23 EST 2003
http://www.rahmanonline.com
- From: sojan george (@ )
on: Thu Feb 6 06:26:39 EST 2003
U R Xactly right.there is a Rahman style back ground music all through the minnale songs
- From: ragadevan (@ 195.93.73.7)
on: Sat Feb 8 12:38:36 EST 2003
pongada mutalgala hj pattu poi rahman pattugalotu compare panurigal ungaluku arivu illai
seri msv pattu vs rahman pattu(soorry rahman remix pane pattu)
aaaaaaahhhhhhh aahhhhhh aahhhhhhh
- From: thematrix1298 (@ 65.95.166.155)
on: Sat Feb 8 13:42:28 EST 2003
pondaaaan gooooooooooooo,
Harris is da man u loosers
- From: naaaaaaaaaaaaan sense (@ 65.176.168.55)
on: Sat Feb 8 15:37:24 EST 2003
close this thread ;--)
- From: Paran (@ 210.193.13.169)
on: Mon Feb 10 00:32:54 EST 2003
jerks...will remail jerks...
poor soul..poorer music taste...
and accroding to these Jerks...
HJ - is the best ACE composer....and do u guys know..that HJ has signed a road show (or in tamil "teru kutte"....to be played by lead actor from Uganda...at the Tenampet signal.....somign March
soon..they will be releasing the Singles..with 6 remixed version of the Title song "Yen Pattu, Ippo Teruvil" (My song, now on road)...
p/s : these songs are believed to have some flavour of jingles composed by Actual Ace Composer "You-know-who"....And it is also believed that..HJ fans..will still say..that it is the best, most original music they have ever heard thorughout thei lifetime....
- From: ambleen (@ 202.95.121.98)
on: Tue Feb 11 00:47:03 EST 2003
Thanks for kotturran your vaitherruchals over HJ.
Let's come back to the questions previously unanswered.
Highest tax paying MD, sweeping major awards, publicity, stage shows, tours, salary. How does this make a person no.1?
Is what the person produces goes straight into ur heart rather than ur ears not important to classify that person as the best or good or no.1?
"OR fans of ARR who has made him a superstar, beyond the dreams of his earlier generation?"
The above statement was made by ARR fan/s. This is exaclty what everyone has to take note. ITS YOU WHO MAKE HIM A SUPERSTAR IN newtfmpage...I REPEAT...IN newtfmpage. Its all confined to you & yourself only. Can even here horses neighing. Is it a joke?
- From: Lollu Party (@ 61.6.38.132)
on: Tue Feb 11 01:08:36 EST 2003
>>>Highest tax paying MD, sweeping major awards, publicity, stage shows, tours, salary. How does this make a person no.1?
Let's see. IR evades paying taxes and got his house raided.
He has not won any awards lately. Gosh, he does not even produce songs lateley.
No one who is serious in making movies will consider IR. Publicity zilch. Ego? Maximum.
Stage shows? None to speak of. Waiting for kalyaana katcheris.
Tours? Haha! Who wants to pay good money?
Salary? Lowest among the lows. Even Deva commands better salary.
So, are all the above the markings of a "best" or "no. 1" music director?
Stop living in the past man and accept reality.
- From: Paran (@ 210.193.13.153)
on: Tue Feb 11 01:13:46 EST 2003
Yea...
if IR were creating millions of compostion..and no one knows abt it..will he be the no.1 MD...
no man...he himself need fans...like ambleen, and others..to claim he is no.1
so what's wrong in ARR fans..making ARR a superstar...
- From: TAMARAI (@ )
on: Wed Mar 10 07:50:06 EST 2004
rahman sar than super!!!!! pale mattrangalai tamil cinema ulagattilai seitathu avarthan.NO AR
-RAHMAN NO CHANGES IN TAMIL CINEMA WORLD
- From: thiru (@ 210.214.131.4)
on: Wed Mar 10 09:04:35 EST 2004
!!!!!Precisely. The words has come out from the horse's mouth itself. Its you who make him a superstar and its confined to you & yourself only. Thanks for enhancing my/our point. !!!!
similarly no matter how hard you tout IR here, it's just your view point, it means nothing to people who are in the business of film making.
And they know his boring repeatations (most of the times) aren't hot with the masses except a few ambleens. Poor guy needs to resort to begging to make TIS.
Stop making posts here and collect a few dollars for him, thats what you must be doing - haha a simple reminder.
- From: thiru (@ 210.214.131.4)
on: Wed Mar 10 09:15:33 EST 2004
Ambleen,
How many musical geniuses needed charity to do work?
Does Ravishankar need public money to play Sitar?
Does Zakir hussain ask for public money to do a concert?
Yanni doesn't need it only your gyani needs public funds still claiming all the tall things in his resume.
- From: prasanna (@ 61.247.243.23)
on: Wed Mar 10 11:13:41 EST 2004
mr. ambeleen, ur views are flawed.
ARR winning awards like filmfare, that this..doesnt say he's the best.
But him winning 4 national awards so far, with one more surely this year does.
more than that, him being commissioned to compose pieces for CBSO in UK, says a lot. Him being called for composing for chinese/hollywood films, speaks a lot.
no doubt, IR is a maestro....but IR's line of thinking will not carry him forward as a film music composer(has not). cuz film music is as much about sounds as it is about harmony. Its about writing pieces that convey emotion, lift the scene to a different plane.
IR has been able to do this to a large extent, purely by his harmony. but, thats not enough.
ARR is definitely a better film composer than IR.
yanni, for that matter, has the simplest of tunes...no complex stuff..and his pieces revolve around JUST one-two tunes..still he is a maestro. reason : his music is meant to convey an emotion and go acc. to the theme of his album, which he does beautifully. He collaborates all the world musicians and uses a vast range of sounds, for conveying the FEEL.
IR may get satisfied with the his complex counterpoints and interesting bass movements, and you, as an IR fan, seem to hold this as a yardstick, for evaluating any other composer, which is wrong.
ARR's music is diff. and ARR's line of thinking is different.
simple example : for conveying chutti behaviour of children,
raja did it in anjali, mainly by his tunes..and was indeed nice.
look at sundari from kannathil muthamittal...the choice of instruments and the discipline is mind-boggling. The same feel was conveyed, using appropriate sounds like, MOUTH ORGANS, cellos and the spanish guitar.
and as a score, sundari will be more appreciated abroad, as it concentrates equally on sounds. Thats why, we say, ARR's music transcends barriers.
ARR is definitely the best when it comes to film music...and thats wut we're talking about and thats how we know ARR and IR.
Lets not deviate into 'who has more knowledge'..dats a funny question..no one can answer that! unless, both release similar off-beat works for comparison. even then, its a tough one.
hope u ppl agree with me here.
- From: thiru (@ 210.214.132.7)
on: Wed Mar 10 12:48:20 EST 2004
Well said.
Now just wait for his reply, and you might have a joke to read.
no logic only magic kinda stuff.
Repeated stressing like nengal dail seitha en sariparkavum.............(x number of times).
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