A request to amateur composers who visit this page
Topic started by Vijay (@ 212.137.205.127) on Thu Nov 16 16:58:22 EST 2000.
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I'd like to request amateur composers who visit this page to tell me if they've uploaded any of their work onto the internet and if they have, please tell me where I can listen to it. Thank You.
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- From: Aditya (@ 160.231.1.100)
on: Wed Jun 27 10:26:55 EDT 2001
Naveen:
I have a very long way to go to imagine Franz Listz kind of piece - possibly not in this lifetime. Currently I can imagine only what I can play - it's beauty can be enhanced by a pianist as it's his heart. Leave WCM alone, there are some subtle beauties that pianist can present.
Anyway thanks for your comments.
Regards,
Aditya
- From: comment (@ 12.5.10.153)
on: Wed Jun 27 11:44:22 EDT 2001
Nice try aditya, good going,
anu pallavi impresses me when you touch the dha note, good idea.
btw: can you reduce the delay?
- From: Aditya (@ 160.231.1.100)
on: Wed Jun 27 12:01:44 EDT 2001
Comment:
I realized after recording that the delay was given a bit more extra. This is a kind of culprit sometimes even confused me about the shruti. Anyway I learnt it...thanks for your comments.
Regards,
Aditya
- From: Aditya (@ 160.231.1.100)
on: Wed Jun 27 12:03:24 EDT 2001
Comment:
I am planning to cut another recording session. Possibly with a more sweeter voice.
Regards,
Aditya
- From: Udhaya (@ 63.89.188.232)
on: Wed Jun 27 19:53:16 EDT 2001
Aditya,
I listened to your complete vocal version and liked it. It has a meditative feel to it. I penned some lyrics that I've given here. You can do with it as you choose as filler lyrics or whatever. It was fun writing for it.
pallavi:
viLangaatha thaagam
unai azhaiththu poagum
thiRakaathoru kalaikkathavinai
thakartheRindhida koodum ini
(repeat pallavi)
anupallavi:
thinam muyandru thaedu
thisai maRandhu oadu
manaveedhigaL thaandu
gnyaanam theeNdum
pudhup paadhai pularum
- From: Aditya (@ 24.4.252.137)
on: Wed Jun 27 21:27:52 EDT 2001
Udhaya:
Hearty thanks for penning down lyrics to my song. I made the shape and you're giving life to it. Because of my strong liking for Music and so much going on with Tamilians, I just started learning tamil and not conversant to the complete extent. Can you please explain line by line what it means! I pity myself because first time somebody penned lyrics to my song and I can't understand what it's. May I request any Tamil singer to sing this song so that I will learn to pronounce correctly when I sing? Guys I assure that once I understand the lyrics and pronounciation, I will do complete justice.
Thanks again!
Regards,
Aditya
- From: MS (@ 129.252.222.2)
on: Wed Jun 27 22:04:15 EDT 2001
Hey..This seems to be a nice approach too ! Those who compose the tunes may upload somewhere for the lyric writers to pen lyrics. ( Udhaya and bb are very good at it). Instead of wasting our time on the useless IR/ARR discussions, we may try to appreciate their works through practice ( though the stuff created is original).
Aditya.. u have started something really good. aFew comments about your song:
(1) High reverb ( or echo as you would call it)
(2) Innum konjam azuththamaa paadunga. swarangaL nallaa theriyattum.
(3) Since you are composing yourself, you may try creating a few sandhams which are different from the ones existing.
(4) Never get satisfied in a take. go for bettering it.
- From: MS (@ 129.252.222.2)
on: Wed Jun 27 22:07:51 EDT 2001
RJAY:
I am sorry I have not followed your songs very religiously till date but would like to know if you have a song with your vocals. I have heard from comment oyu have a good voice. Just wondering if you have a sample of it. thx
- From: Aditya (@ 24.4.252.137)
on: Thu Jun 28 05:54:40 EDT 2001
MS:
Thanks! Does your comments ( in points ) mean you didnot like those things right? let's all work together to appreciate good things that happened in our music and where we need to improvise ( if at all needed ). In the process, there may MDs, lyricists and singers coming out of this forum. May be we could write a book on song making past, present and future!
Regards,
Aditya
- From: Aditya (@ 160.231.1.100)
on: Thu Jun 28 06:45:02 EDT 2001
I meant the appreciation of our music heritage - classical, light classical, fusion, film music etc., by practicing and presenting them in our own way!
- From: comment (@ 12.5.10.153)
on: Thu Jun 28 09:51:52 EDT 2001
1) High reverb ( or echo as you would call it)
,,,...small technical clarification..
1. echo is generated when the source is delayed by few millseconds, there are various kinds of delay, stereo delays, mapped delays, pan delays etc.
2.Reverb is efx we get when the sound bounce back and forth in a room or hall. like in a church, you will get lots of natual reverb.
There are various kinds of reverb, room, club , areana.
What aditya has used it a long delay. I would prefer a warm plate reverb for his voice.
- From: rajaG (@ 208.24.179.211)
on: Thu Jun 28 10:05:12 EDT 2001
I would prefer a hot plate of..........umm! ennOda saappaattu budhdhiya maaththavE mudiyaadhu:-)
- From: rajaG (@ 208.24.179.211)
on: Thu Jun 28 10:05:33 EDT 2001
I would prefer a hot plate of..........umm! ennOda saappaattu budhdhiya maaththavE mudiyaadhu:-)
- From: mAttukkAra vElan (@ 12.47.54.252)
on: Thu Jun 28 10:08:26 EDT 2001
atha reNdu vAttiyA sollaNumA? :))) ellAm vELa vELaikku sAppudaravar pOla irukku...inga pizza-vum elayum thAn konja nALa :((
- From: Aditya (@ 160.231.1.100)
on: Thu Jun 28 10:13:23 EDT 2001
Srikanth:
I was listening to your "Bharatha Desham" Song. Very refreshing music. Comment, I take you as one of my favourites in music - somehow you evoke a deep nostalgic feeling in your music. I can't say what's that! Hard Rock song is an exception though.
I wish you go into mainstream. I sincerely want to see you reaching wider audience.
Can you make a regular Audio CD copy for me which consists of my picks from your various albums. I will pay for it.
Regards,
Aditya
- From: Aditya (@ 160.231.1.100)
on: Thu Jun 28 10:17:19 EDT 2001
RajaG:
Granted Hot Plate of Authentic Idli - Visit my home. Let's have fun.
Regards,
Aditya
- From: comment (@ 12.5.10.153)
on: Thu Jun 28 10:25:16 EDT 2001
g :)
btw:there is also a dry plate reverb:)
- From: Aditya (@ 160.231.1.100)
on: Thu Jun 28 10:54:42 EDT 2001
Supplementing Srikanth's clarifications...here comes the explanation on the echo and reverberation devices which are emulated in Software...I read this somewhere on the net.
Echo and Reverberation Devices
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Echo
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An echo device, or delay device, is a signal processor used to simulate discrete reflections of sound. Echo devices have taken several forms, including tape delay, analog delay, and digital delay systems.
Tape Delay
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In tape delay, a direct dry signal is fed to a tape recorder and printed to tape. Due to the separation of the record head from the playback head, the tape recorder output signal will be delayed, and can be sent to an input on the console for mixing. The period of delay can be changed by altering the distance between the heads, or by adjusting the speed of the tape transport. A method of feedback can be exploited to facilitate repeating echoes. This consists in routing the tape recorder output back to the input, together with the direct signal. When the amplitude of the output signal is lower than that of the direct signal, the repeating echoes will taper off to inaudibility.
Analog Delay
============
Electronic systems employing solid-state circuitry were later devised to provide echo. These are the so-called analog delay devices. They have several advantages over tape delay systems. They use no moving parts or tape, which can wear out. They allow much more precise control of the period of delay. And they are relatively compact and inexpensive.
Digital Delay
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Digital delay systems simulate reflections by converting an analog signal to digital data, retaining the data for a period of time in a shift register until a specified number of clock pulses releases the data to the output stage, at which it is converted back to an analog signal.
Reverberation
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Reverberation, or "reverb", devices have at least as diverse as echo devices. In principle, however, the two are basically the same. Reverberation, like echo, consists in reflections, but the reflections of reverberation are so varied, so numerous and so overlapping as to give the impression of a smooth integral body of sound, resembling the initial unreflected sound in character, and gradually diminishing in loudness over a period of time.
Natural versus Artificial Reverberation
=======================================
In many "live" situations, especially orchestral performances in concert halls, the physical space is specifically designed to provide certain reverberant qualities, and this is all that is required. Almost all applications of artificial reverberation are intended to simulate the complex reflective activity ensuing in a physical room, such as a concert hall, filled with sound. Although possible in principle, it is impractical for most studio facilities to arrange to have at their disposal an adjustable echoic space, or echo chamber, for the purpose of applying particular reverberations to sound sources and recorded sounds. Therefore, it is chiefly artificial reverb devices that serve this function in today's studio environments.
Spring Reverb
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In a spring reverb device, a signal is fed to an input and sent to one end of a suspended row of light-gague metallic springs. The energy of the signal sets the springs vibrating, producing a convincing simulation of natural reverberation in the output signal, which is tapped at the opposite end of the suspension. The sound can be thin and "springy", or relatively warm and smooth, depending primarily on the number and qualities of the springs used. The device itself is inexpensive to manufacture, and so such units are often built into the design of instrument amplifiers. However, due to the limited elasticity of the spring material, a good deal of amplification is required to boost the output signal to a useful level, and the net result is a noisy sound. This design also provides very limited control, if any, over the quality of the resultant sound.
Plate Reverb
============
A plate reverb system employs a large metallic plate suspended vertically in a solid frame. A driver induces motion in the plate, which is picked up by contact microphones. The sound produced by such a system is warm and rich, and the output signals are strong enough to be used in professional applications. The decay parameter can be adjusted by the judicious use of damping mechanisms applied directly to the plate. For a considerable period, plate systems were the electronic reberb of choice in professional studio environments. They provide clear, smooth enhancement to vocals and instruments alike.
Digital Reverb
==============
Like digital delay, digital reverb converts an analog input signal to digital data. To simulate complex superimposed reflections, the program of such a system employs an algorithm including multiple recursions to effectively send the data to the output stage many times in rapid succession, at various intervals and at various levels. Digital reverb systems can provide practically limitless control of parameters, such as initial delay, high-frequency absorption, smoothness, and decay. They are more compact, more versatile, and increasingly more affordable than plate systems, and are currently the predominant type of system used to produce reverberation in recording studios.
- From: Aditya (@ 160.231.1.100)
on: Thu Jun 28 10:57:31 EDT 2001
by reading above posting, we realize how much we should thank the Audio Software Engineers who encapsulates all this physical devices info under the GUI.
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