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Raga of song please

Topic started by Gopal Prasad (@ greed.cs.umass.edu) on Sat May 17 07:42:45 EDT 1997.
All times in EDT +9:30 for IST.

Note: You may want to refer to the list of raga based film songs before posting a query.

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• From: RR (@ uc.cache.nlanr.net) on: Sat Feb 6 01:11:29 EST 1999
  
  'kannodu kaanbathellaam' is abheri, no doubt.
  
  Vidyasagar has given another Abheri recently in Anantha Krishna - 'vaanam varai vantha thalaivaa' (Harini). (His first was 'poothirukkum vaname' in puthayal)
  
  
• From: Geetha (@ gatekeeper.oracle.co.uk) on: Mon Feb 8 12:45:49 EST 1999
  
  Sivakumar/Sudarshan: Please look at the archives of this thread, we have discussed this numerous times.....Thanks
  
  
• From: rameshb (@ interlock.itthartford.com) on: Mon Feb 8 13:14:12 EST 1999
  
  Raga of 'anbe anbe nee en piLLai, dhegam mattum kAthal illai'(UU) please ...
  it is an excellent melody. hari has been used very effectively in this song.
  
  
• From: RR (@ uc.cache.nlanr.net) on: Mon Feb 8 21:30:01 EST 1999
  
  Ramesh, sounds like Kapi. Geetha, can you confirm it?
  
  
• From: Geetha (@ gatekeeper.oracle.co.uk) on: Tue Feb 9 06:19:47 EST 1999
  
  RR/Ramesh: It's got that Kafi Hint RR, you're right, but is actually in KEERAVANI RAGA..... We got it confirmed by an 'expert'.... Notice how it has the Keeravani notes - like IR's 'Keeravani' song.....
  
  
• From: Geetha (@ gatekeeper.oracle.co.uk) on: Tue Feb 9 10:58:09 EST 1999
  
  RR: A DIGRESSION.... Please look at my latest posting in the Hub, it's about Talvin Singh album with IR in it.....
  
  
• From: Murali Sankar (@ 129.252.26.188) on: Tue Feb 9 11:42:09 EST 1999
  
  Please give the topic under which you have done it.
  
  
• From: rajaG (@ 207.43.195.202) on: Tue Feb 9 13:26:37 EST 1999
  
  Unless the raga for 'manaivi amaivadhellaam' has already been resolved, it sounds like mishra bhaageshri. I tried to sing it with the old Lata classic naa bolE, naa bOlE, naa bOlE rE and it sounded similar. However, I could have inadvertently done a sruthi bEdham which could have led to the similarity.
  
  
• From: Sriram Lakshman (@ ifmxlenx.na.informix.com) on: Tue Feb 9 14:36:30 EST 1999
  
  RajaG, I am positive that it is not Bhagesri. The similarity is because, the descending notes in the song are those of Karahapriya, the MelaKartha for Bhagesri.
  
  
• From: saketh (@ chem-pc-44.rutgers.edu) on: Tue Feb 9 17:42:59 EST 1999
  
  Talking of Bagesri raga, someone said somewhere IR has not composed a song in the raga(compared to the many numbers from MSV and/or others in the raga). I think the song "sandhosam kAnAdha vAzhvundA" from the movie "vasanthi" (mohan's starrer)is set to Bagesri. Is IR the MD of the movie?Experts please confirm on both the raga and the MD.
  
  
• From: Murali Sankar (@ 129.252.26.188) on: Wed Feb 10 00:22:45 EST 1999
  
  Saketh,
  
  I think the MD is chandrabose.
  
  
• From: Ramaswamy Gireesan (@ guardian.fast.de) on: Wed Feb 10 06:25:16 EST 1999
  
  saketh,
  
  IR has set a song to Bageshree - vAdi en gappankizhangE - listen to the charanam. There is another song in kiLip pEchchu kEtka vA. BTW, the MD for vasanthi is indeed Chandrabose.
  
  G.Ramaswamy
  
  
• From: Sriram Lakshman (@ ifmxlenx.na.informix.com) on: Wed Feb 10 12:07:43 EST 1999
  
  Ragapiriyan,
  Sonnathu starts with S. This is what I inferred.I have not taken into consideration the gamakams and this would only complicate it further.
  
  innoru kaigaLile
  m1pm1 m1pd1d1d1d1
  
  Yaar Yaar Naana
  m1r2 pm1 d1p
  
  yenai maranthaaya
  sg2 m1pm1g2
  
  Yen Yen Yen Ennuyire
  m1 p m1pd1pd1 pd1pm1m1
  
  Yen Yen Yen ennuiyre
  g1 r2 r1 d1. n1. s (d1. n1. indicate previous octave)
  
  indru sonnathu nee thaana
  d1. n1. sss sg1 sg1s (d1. n1. indicate previous octave)
  
  Just try it out without expecting gamakams
  
  
• From: Geetha (@ gatekeeper.oracle.co.uk) on: Wed Feb 10 12:23:15 EST 1999
  
  Ramaswamy: I thought that Vandhadhu Vandhadhu from Kili Petchu Ketkavaa was in Sri Ranjani. Both Bhagayashree and Sri Ranjani take the same Arohanam/Avarohanam but have different paryogams....IR has done some wonderful Sri Ranjanis. IR has included Bhagayashree in the Ragamalike Sangathamizh kaviye - Abheri & Bageshree from Manadhil urudhi vEndum
  
  
• From: Murali Sankar (@ 129.252.23.226) on: Wed Feb 10 18:30:42 EST 1999
  
  Please let me know of the aarohanam and avarohanams of :
  
  Tilank, Jog, Kapi(carnatic), desh, Brindavan saranga, sarnaga and Hameer Kalyan.
  
  Sriram and Geetha, can you help?
  
  
  
• From: Murali Sankar (@ 129.252.23.226) on: Wed Feb 10 18:31:18 EST 1999
  
  typo : saranga
  
  
• From: Sriram Lakshman (@ ifmxlenx.na.informix.com) on: Wed Feb 10 19:30:22 EST 1999
  
  Ragapiriyan, missed a "s" after r1 in the penultimate line
  
  
• From: RR (@ pb.cache.nlanr.net) on: Wed Feb 10 21:39:21 EST 1999
  
  Murali Sankar,
  That's a topic more appropriate for
  
  http://forumhub.com/indcmusic/
  
  :-)
  
  
• From: Ragapriyan (@ 202.54.37.18) on: Wed Feb 10 22:30:53 EST 1999
  
  Sriram:
  Thanks. I will try it out on my KB.
  
  
• From: rameshb (@ spider-wb063.proxy.aol.com) on: Sun Feb 14 16:30:40 EST 1999
  
  Hi
  "En swasak kAtRE" number (in ESK) by MG Srikumar sounds like an excellent 'thAlAttu' . The tune is a haunting melody and the second interlude veena, chitra's humming puts me to sleep. What raga is this based on?
  
  
• From: Geetha (@ gatekeeper.oracle.co.uk) on: Mon Feb 15 06:52:58 EST 1999
  
  rameshb: Chithra's humming and Balachandar's Veena is in Neelambari Ragam, which is said to put one to sleep - Thalaatu Ragam......It's been done so well that the effect is exactly as desired.... The rest of the song has Kalyani touches to it, but I need more listens to pinpoint the Raga.....Sriram, any ideas?
  
  
• From: rameshb (@ spider-te051.proxy.aol.com) on: Mon Feb 15 08:07:49 EST 1999
  
  Geetha,
  thanks a lot for your info, interesting to know neelambari is supposed to put one to sleep. I wonder how would you classify the number 'chinna chinna mazhaithuLigaL' . The tune is similar to 'dil bar jane', which is a garba(dhadiya raas)dance number, i like this one more though. You are absolutely right in saying that the album has variety and ARR has tried to cater to the diversified tastes. You have 2 excellent melodies(thirakkatha,en swasa katre) , 2 love songs (theendai,chinna chinna mazhai),1 ceylonish, and one for front benchers. Vairamuthu has played a vital role in this album and deserves due credit. I place this album few notches above any other albums of ARR.
  
  
• From: Geetha (@ gatekeeper.oracle.co.uk) on: Mon Feb 15 12:28:32 EST 1999
  
  RameshB: I would say that Chinna Chinna Mazlai is in Madhyamavathi Raga. It's interesting to note that ARR has used Sri ragam and Madhyamavathi in the same album(There is only one note different between the two - Gandharam). He used Madhyamavathi in the strangest of songs, Mutthu Paapa from Vandicholai Chinnarasu too.....My sentiments exactly on the quality/listenability of the album.
  
  
• From: Sriram Lakshman (@ ifmxlenx.na.informix.com) on: Tue Feb 16 11:49:52 EST 1999
  
  Geetha,
  I have not managed to get my hands on ESK yet. I could manage to get a CD but guess what , I left my CD player back in California. Give me some time.
  
  
  
• From: Geetha (@ gatekeeper.oracle.co.uk) on: Tue Feb 16 12:53:11 EST 1999
  
  Sriram: No probs, take your time...By the way, where are you now?
  
  
• From: Sriram Lakshman (@ ifmxlenx.na.informix.com) on: Tue Feb 16 15:04:12 EST 1999
  
  I have temporarily shifted to Washington DC but I have the option of visiting the bay area on a bi-weekly basis. I should wind up the Washington project by April. Feel free to E-mail.
  
  
• From: Manian (@ attcat.ds-us.com) on: Wed Feb 17 10:43:31 EST 1999
  
  Hi folks:
  I read in tamilcinema.com about the usefulness of certain ragas. Listening
  to songs based on some ragas apparently has some benefits.
  Example:
  Asavari - helps to relieve headache
  Karakarapriya - helps get rid of hunger (?)
  Neelambari - will put a crying kid to sleep.
  
  and so on. I have also heard that amrithavarshini can bring rain.
  Can anyone add more to this list?
  Also, is there a latest version of tf songs/ragas
  list other than the one linked at the top of this page.
  
  Thanks,
  Manian
  
  
• From: rameshb (@ interlock.itthartford.com) on: Wed Feb 17 13:33:02 EST 1999
  
  Manian,
  very interesting! is 'nila kAyuthu'(SKV) set on karagarapriya ?;-)) ESK has 'En swask katre' set on Neelambari (source: Geetha) really put me to sleep.
  
  
• From: Sridhar K (@ nemo.hbc.com) on: Wed Feb 17 15:46:43 EST 1999
  
  Hi,
  
  My guess for the song "Abhinaya Sundari Aadugiral En Aasai Kanalai Oodhugiral..." from Mirudangha Chakravarhy (Sivaji , Prabhu ...) is TILLANG.
  
  Can the experts confirm this...?
  
  --- Thanks.
  
  
• From: Sriram Lakshman (@ ifmxlenx.na.informix.com) on: Wed Feb 17 16:24:58 EST 1999
  
  Rameshb, "Nila Kaayuthu" I think is set to Sriragam.
  Sridhar K , you are right.
  
  
• From: Chandrasekaran (@ global22.citicorp.com) on: Wed Feb 17 17:09:27 EST 1999
  
  I would like to know the raga of 'Thamarai Kannangal' from Edhirneechal
  
  
• From: rameshb (@ interlock.itthartford.com) on: Wed Feb 17 17:33:52 EST 1999
  
  Sriram L,
  thanks for the info
  that was a candid> reply!;-))
  
  
• From: Sriram Lakshman (@ ifmxlenx.na.informix.com) on: Wed Feb 17 17:39:06 EST 1999
  
  Rameshb, ONNume puriyavillai . Yethukku saar highlight paNNeenga ?
  
  
• From: rameshb (@ spider-tm081.proxy.aol.com) on: Wed Feb 17 20:55:59 EST 1999
  
  Sriram L,
  you are very sincere and honest in answering my query.
  ennOda query-kku munnAla unmaiyAgavE manian (on karagarappriya ) posting padikkalyA?;-))
  
  

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