Home   Forum   Wiki   Notes   Register   FAQ   Sitemap   About Us   Contact Us  

Favorite analogies in TFM

Topic started by Udhaya (@ 205.218.142.217) on Thu May 7 17:55:45 EDT 1998.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

I sent the following message to be added as a permanent topic. Should that fail how about it as a temporary topic?

Hi guys,

I recently discovered this page and have been contributing extensively ever since. How about a permanent thread for discussing famous analogies: metaphors, similies, expressions, ironies, etc. in Tamil songs? For example: this would be a thread where I will share my favorite analogy for a smile, "Kaiyalavu Pazhutha Maathulai, Paalil
Neyalavu Padarntha Punnagai" from "Vizhiyilae Malarnthathu" written by Panchu Arunachalam.

As great as the discussion topics are in this site, I feel lyrics and song writers should get more attention.

A fan forever,
Udhaya
udhayak@yahoo.com

---

Responses:

• Old responses
  
• From: Manisekaran (@ bat-47-25.tm.net.my) on: Wed May 13 09:01:26 EDT 1998
  
  Sharing a few more.
  
  1. Kannadasan in En Kadamai
  
  Thotta surungi sediyai pola naanam ennadi seemaatti?
  Kattaana udal kaayaai irunthu kaninthathennadi seemaatti?
  
  2. In the film Maruthai Naattu Veeran
  
  Oru Viral Kaatti Ethiriyai neetti kurai sollum velai
  Maru viral naangum un marbinai nokkuvathai nee ariyaayo?
  
  3. Suratha in Edirpaarathathu (Jikki)
  
  Kaniyai thedum anilai poley
  karai kaanatha anbodu theduvar-En
  Kannathai Killivittu Oduvaar!
  Mana Naaliley Mugam Naaninaal
  mana maalai Sootti Laali Paaduvar-
  Suba Laali Paduvaar.oh.oh..oh oh ohh...
  
  (Kannaana Kathalar College Maanavar)
  4. Vali in Deivathai(TMS)
  
  "Vazhai maram poley boomi mugam paarkkum
  Kozhai mugam maatru thozha"
  Naalai uyir pogum indru ponaalum
  Kozhgai niraivetru thozh...
  
  5. Vali in Thalaivan (TMS)
  
  pantheduthu vittu erinthaal
  Suvar Mel pattathu Pol thirumbi varum
  Intha thathuvathai than arinthaal pirarkku
  theengu seiyya Ennam Varumo?
  
  6. Kannadasan in Vettaikkaaran(TMS)
  
  Maanam Periyathendru Vaazhum manitharkalai
  Maan Enru Solvathillaiyaa?
  
  7. Kannadasan in Muradan Muthu(TMS)
  
  Vaanathil Vennilavu Onrallava?(athu pol)
  Maanathil Mangayarkal Maanallava? kavari Maanallava?
  
  8. From the film Thirumanam(AMR /Jikki)
  
  Thanga nilavil Kendai irandu thulli thirivathundo
  thulli thirivathundo?
  then Pongi Thathumbum Kovai kanikal punnagai seivathundo-punnagai seivathundo?
  
  9. Kannadasan in Kaathiruntha Kankal(PBS)
  
  Alli pootha mugathiniley mullai pootha nagai engey?
  Solli vaithu vanthathu pol sokka vaikkum mozhi engey?
  
  10. Mahakavi Bharathi quoted in Puthu Vazhvu(MKT)
  
  Neela Kadal Alaiyo
  Un Nenjil Alaikaladee!
  Sola Kuyilosai unathu Kural inimaiyadee!
  Vaalai Kumariyadee Kannamma! Adi Kannamma!
  
  
  11. Kannadasan
  with perfect description of Thaikkulam in Then Nilavu
  
  Kaalaiyum Neeye(vaazhvu pularthal)
  Maalayum Neeye(Vaazhvu kulirthal)
  Kaatrum Neeye(Moochu viduthal)
  Kadalum Neeye(parantha Ullam)
  
  Aalaya manivaai Osaiyum Neeye( Bakthi tharuthal)
  Arul Vadivaagum Deivamum Neeye(Sakthy illaiyel..)
  
  Paalil Vizhuntha Pazhangalai Poley
  Paruvam Uruvam Nirainthaval Neeye(Saala Porutham)
  Manathinil Medai Amithaval Neeye
  Mangala Naadagam aada Vanthaaye.
  
  (NOTE: The interpretation for the purpose of preventing the Bangalore BONES from coming out with a completely different form of explanation.Please see "Paadatha Pengal" thread)
  
  12. Pattukottai Kalayanasundaram in Kalyana Parisu
  
  Kaanthamo ithu Kannoli thaano?
  Kaathal nathiyil Neenthidum meeno?..
  
  Cycle'um Oda manmeethey
  Iru Sakkaram Suzhazvathu Poley
  Anai thaandi varum Sugamum thoondi vizhum mugamum
  Sernthathey Uravaaley
  
  13.PK Sundaram in Kalyana Parisu(Jikki)
  
  Thunba Kadalai Thaandum pothu
  Thoniyaavathu Geetham
  anbu kadalil amuthai klanthey
  aruntha tharuvathu geetham
  engu sitharum ennangalaiyum
  izuthu varuvathu geetham
  inaithu varuvathu geetham
  
  (Which other song could provide so concise a description of the intoxication effect of music?)
  
  14. Kannadasan in Mahadevi(MSRajeswary and RBalasaraswathy Devi)
  
  Singara Punnagai Kannara Kandaley
  sangeetha Veenaiyum Ethukkamma?
  mangatha Kankalil Mayittu Paarthaaley
  thangamum Vairamum Ethukkamma?
  
  kannadi Kannangal Kaankinra Velayil
  Ennangal Geetham Paadumey
  Pesamal Pesum Puruvangal Kandaal
  Pesatha sitpangal ethukkamma
  
  Aadum Kodiya nagangalum
  asainthu varum neram un
  azhagu mugam kandukkondaal
  anbu kondu maarum!
  
  15. Kannadsaan in Nilavey Nee saatchi
  
  Thai Maatha Pongalukkey Thaai thantha sengarumbey
  thallaadi vaadi thangam poley
  
  16. PKS in Pathibakthy(PS)
  
  Kuppai thanil vaazhum kunrumani Charamey
  Kungumac chimizhey Araaro
  Vannath thamizh Solayil
  maanikka maalayil aariro
  
  17. Kannadasan in Pasamalar(TMS/PS)
  
  Kannil Mani Pola Maniyin Nizhal pola
  kalanthu Piranthomada
  intha mannum kadal yaavum
  marainthu mudinthaalum
  marakka mudiyathada
  uyirai pirikka mudiyaathada
  
  18.In Koodnukkili
  Putham puthu malarey
  kurunagai puriyum venniliavey
  
  19. In Kavceriyin Kanavan
  
  Sinna Sinna nadai nadanthu
  Sembavalz vaai thiranthu
  amma Enru nee azhaithaal
  amutha gaanam pozhiyuthada.
  
  "aadi varum thendral enbaar
  thedi varum aruvi enbaar
  thedi varum selvam un pol
  veru selvam illaiyada"
  
  
  
  20.In Puthiya Pathai(PS)
  
  Anam poley unnai than madiyil vaithaai annai
  Nee kankalai moodi katpanai theril selvaai enthan kanney
  
  Over to the other udanpirappukkal!
  
  
  
• From: Manisekaran (@ bat-47-25.tm.net.my) on: Wed May 13 09:03:23 EDT 1998
  
  Song No 19 should read:
  Aadi varum Thenral Enbaar
  paadi varum Aruvi Enbaar
  
  
• From: Udhaya (@ 205.218.142.217) on: Wed May 13 14:50:47 EDT 1998
  
  Manisegaran, antha NSK Kannadhasan thunukku rasikkathakkathu. Also, thanks for bringing uvamai kavingar Surathaa to this thread. MGR aatchiyil nadantha ulaga tamizh maanadil kaviarangangalil Surathaa, Mu. Metha pondrorin kavithaigalai kettu meisilirthu ponaen. Surathaa oru uvamai kalanjiyam.
  Bhaskar, "Vizhiyil Vizhunthu" padalil VM ungalai kuzhappiyathu is valid. He uses the same term for two different ideas and convolutes the meaning. I always thought that VM's exagerrated romantic sentiments paint a picture of an imbalanced obsessive love, not an elegant, deep fascination that can be found in the older poets' creations.
  
  
• From: Kanchana (@ ww-te02.proxy.aol.com) on: Wed May 13 22:26:49 EDT 1998
  
  Manisekaran:
  Yet another fabulous compilation from you! Enjoyed your interpretation of kAlaiyum neeyE and the reason for the interpretation.
  
  Udhaya:
  That is a good observation regarding VM's lines bordering on a somewhat unhealthy obsession when compared to the verses from yester-years. Possible result of a different definition/portrayal of "love" and characterizations in today's movies to better suit the changing times?!
  
  More verses to the list (all by kaviyarasar):
  A classic description of love in the first verse followed by a varuNanai which is quite frequently used but continues to be appealing for its ilakkiya nayam from one of my favorite songs nAn unnai sErndha selvam, nee ennai ALum dheivam. Movie: kalaikkOvil.
  nam kAdhal uLLam kalaik kOvil
  iru kaNgaL kOvilukku vAsal
  namadh(u) Asai kOvil maNi Osai
  adhil anbu vaNNa malar poojai
  
  sree rAman nenjil nindRa seedhai
  malark kaNNan thEdik koNda rAdhai
  manam urugich choodik koNda kOdhai
  ondRu sErndhu vandha pAvai
  (Lovely verses sung by PBS/PS in MSV's melodious music!)
  
  kaNNadhAsan explains how her face is imprinted in his heart in punnagaiyil oru poruL vandhadhu from bhavAni:
  pottu vaiththAL avaL mugaththilE
  puLLi vaiththAL endhan manaththilE
  
  A poetic expression of her dreams to be with him from nAngu suvargaL:
  mEgam koNdu veed(u) ondRu
  minnal koNdu viLakk(u) ondRu
  viNmeenAl poo ondRu seer koNdu
  unnOdu nAnum varuvEN
  
  A description of sunset time in pottu vaiththa mugamO from sumathi en sundhari:
  maRu veedu thEdi kadhir pOgum nEram
  (First time I've heard the sun being given a female gender)
  
  A description of the fragrant breeze from prAptham:
  sandhanaththil nalla vAsam eduththu
  ennaith thadavik koNd(u) Odudhu thennam kAththu
  
  More simili/metaphorical descriptions of Mother Nature in isaiyOdu dheivam vandhu from teacherammA:
  malar thoovi manjam vaiththu maNam veesum nAdu
  mazhai vandhu kAdhal seidhu uRavAdum kAdu
  
  sangam kaNda pAndiya nAttu mangai koondhal pOlE
  sAral thoovi sAgasam seyyum mEgam uNdu mElE
  
  pachchaip pullin mEl vandhu pani ennum pAvai
  ichchai koNda thAi pOla muththam sindhinALE
  
  sala salakkum aruviyilE sangeedham sangeedham
  thAi viriththa madiyinilE thazhuvich chellum sandhOsham
  
  
  
• From: Manisekaran (@ 161.142.189.20) on: Thu May 14 03:04:12 EDT 1998
  
  Kanchana:
  Excellent recollection of some of the best of Kannadasan. The song Naan Unnai Serntha Selvam is one of my favourites.
  
  In Malayitta Mangai:
  
  Malayittu Manamudichi Pottu Vachi Poo Mudichi
  Mangai Ival Vaazha avnthaal engal veettiley..
  "Maalai Veyil Poley Manjal Poosum Pennai":
  Vaazha vaikka magan Varuvan Konja Naaliley.
  
  In Panjali
  
  Kannangalai Roja malar Enbatha?-illai
  Kannadi enru naan varnippatha?
  Kankalai Meen enru Solvatha
  Kankalai Meen enru Solvatha-illai
  kadalukku uvamaiyaai kolvatha?
  
  Manthalirai kaanum pothu-un
  vanna meni athil kaanuthey
  poonguyiley unnai ennum pothey
  poonguyiley unnai ennum pothey-oru
  puthiya ulakamum thonuthey
  (oru murai paarthaaley pothum)
  
  
• From: Manisekaran (@ wmu-64-223.tm.net.my) on: Thu May 14 11:30:56 EDT 1998
  
  CONTINUATION
  
  1. Bharadidasan quoted in Kalyanam Panniyum Brahmachari
  
  Vennilaavum vaanum poley
  veeranum koor vaalum poley
  vanna poovum manamum pooley
  magara yaazgum isayum poley
  kannum maniyum poley....
  
  2. Bharadidasan quoted in Kuladeivam
  
  (reference to the plight of the widows)
  
  Korikkai Atru kadakkuthenney ingu veril pazhutha pala
  miga kodiyathena ennida pattathanney
  kulir vidukinra vatta nila
  vetkamillai..vetkamillai..ingu yaarukkum vetkamillai!
  
  3.SD Somasundaram praising motherhood in Manithanum mirukamum:
  
  kaalamennum sitpi seiyum
  kavithai thaai koyilada
  kolamennum iyatkai arul
  kodi malar thottamada
  
  4.SD Somasundaram in Kokilavani
  
  Anboli veesi uyir vazhinthaadum
  vizhiyil vaan kanden
  thannithazh osai isayinil vaaniyin
  veenaiyai naan ketten-pasum
  ponnudal vaari veesiya jothiyil
  vaattiya kulir unarnthen
  pinnaval arukey punnagaiyodu vara
  ennai naan maranthen
  
  anniyam enru ennai ennavaey illai
  ennuyir uravanaal-aval
  sinna karangalil semmalar viralkalil
  sinthiya azhagamuthaal-nalla
  ennamennum pala vannam kuzhaithe
  than mozhi then suvaiyaal-nitham
  en mana ettinil ezhuthiya kaaviyam
  ennil adangathey..
  
  5.Kambathasan in Mangayarkarasi:
  Paarthaal pasi theerum
  pangaja vathana sengani vaaich chirippai..
  
  
  6.Latchumanan in Aval yaar:
  
  Kan kaanum minnal thaano
  kaathal kathai thaano?
  en vaazhvil anbu geetha roobam neeyo
  inbam kaanbeno, kanaatha inbam kaanbeno
  
  7.Latchumanan in the same film:
  
  Naan thedum pothu nee odalaamo
  en oodalo vennilaavey vaa.vaa..
  
  vaadatha poovum malaraatha pothey
  paadaathu vandu koodamaley
  aaraga paayum anuraaga geetham
  aananthamey tahrum vaazhvil
  seraatha ullam suvai kaanbathethu
  neeyaga vaarai naanamaley
  
  8.KP Kamaatchy in Penn
  
  ettaatha kilayil kittatha kani pol iruppathum sarithaana?
  
  9. KP Kamatchy in Amara theepam:
  
  Kaana mayil ninru vaanmugilai kandu
  kalithaadum vitham polavey
  kali ithuvey- vaazhvin kalai ithuvey
  kalakalamenum melliya kaatrey
  kaanathathum en vaazhviley..
  
  10. Vinthan in Parthiban Kanavu:
  
  Ithaya vaanin uthaya nilavey
  engey pogiraai-nee
  engey pogiraai
  oli illaatha ulagam poley
  ullam iruluthey-en
  ullam iruluthey
  
  11. Kothamangalam Subbu in Aboorva Sahodararkal
  poorana Chandran Pol avan mugamey
  puthumalar vizhiye mathunigar mozhiye
  ninaivum kanavum Nee enraaney
  nerinil vanthaan nenjail nirainthaan
  (maanum mayilum addum solai)
  
  
  
  
• From: Udhaya (@ 205.218.142.217) on: Thu May 14 19:28:23 EDT 1998
  
  Oru pennin ilamayai aethanai azhagaga varnikkirar nam Kannadhasan:
  Thendralukku endrum vayathu pathinarae andro
  Sevvaanathin vannanilavum chinnaval thaanandro
  
  Siripirku ithu oru amsamaana varnanai(Kannadhasan):
  Vellarikkai pilanthathu pol
  Vennilave Sirithaayo
  
  Aatril kaalkalai oondrum kaadhaliyai ippadi paadugiran kaadhalan(Kannadhasan):
  Konjum Vaazhai Thandu
  Ennum Kaalaik Kandu
  Vanna Meen Koottam Thazhuva
  
  Kadhaliyin nalinathai Panchu Arunachalam ippadi paarkirar:
  Thai maatha maega nadanam
  En devi kaadhal nalinam
  
  Kadhaliyin Parvaichoottai ippadipparkirar Vairamuthu:
  Nee paarthathaal thanadi
  Soodanathu Margazhi
  
  

---

List all pages of this thread

Post comments