Ilayaraaja's voice
Topic started by cp (@ 208.206.24.27) on Wed Jul 2 17:34:09 EDT 1997.
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- From: vijay (@ 129.252.23.228)
on: Sat Dec 19 20:35:13 EST 1998
shankar,
of late IR has not only been singing for nasser but also for a host of others!!! his favourite actors are :)
murali
rajkiran
napoleon
vijaykaanth etc.
he almost sings a song in every film of his!
is it because after SPB,KJ he does not find anyone suitable to sing those songs?
also unnikrishnana has not been properly used in thodarum.
IR's recent best in my opinion is 'iniya malargal' from poonthottam.
especially in the line
'karpanayil kooda idhupol kaanamudiyumaa....'
he touches the listener.
and of late he has been singing more of this sad/thathuva kind of paadals.
i have not heard many songs of the type 'poomalaiye'.
- From: vijay (@ 129.252.23.228)
on: Sat Dec 19 20:43:34 EST 1998
Neels,
iam amused to note that i had a similiar experience when i listened to 'aathaadi paavada' from poovilangu. though my mom did not explicitly state any reasons, nevertheless she hated that song, she hated raja's voice in general. another thing which i noted is that the older generation have mixed opinions when it comes to SPB or KJY's voice , but when it comes to IR's voice , they unanimously dislike it!!
atleast that's what i have observed so far based on my experiences in my family.
the popular compalints i receive are that his voice is too rustic like that of a 'gramathaan', nasal and irritating at times.
my top 5 are:
1. thendral vanthu theendum
2. poomalaiye
3. metti oli - all time great song!!!
4. kaadhal oviyam paadum kaaviyam
5. ponnoviyam
- From: chandru (@ spider-wc084.proxy.aol.com)
on: Sun Dec 20 04:19:50 EST 1998
naa romba paatu ketkiradhu illai..but kaetaa varaikum my best IR songs has been
1. ennai thaalata varuvaala
2. naan thedum sevanthi poovithu
3. naayagan movie..other version of SP.B's song
- From: Ravi (@ envy.cs.umass.edu)
on: Sun Dec 20 11:07:58 EST 1998
chandru: SPB hasn't sung anything in Nayagan. I guess you mean then paandi cheemayilE, the other versions of which are sung by Kamal.
- From: krishnan (@ ce-1.roc.ny.frontiernet.net)
on: Sun Dec 20 12:07:11 EST 1998
Too many people simply dismiss IR's voice, and unfortunately most of these guys know what they're talking about! I've spoken to some pretty talented classical musicians who happen to like film music & especially's IR's music, but shudder to hear his voice. The one common thread in all their criticisms is "apaswara". His nasal pronunciation spoils the rendition of very many good songs.
eg. Compare "Kalyana Maalai" ( Pudhu Pudhu Artangal ) where IR starts off the first stanza, and thankfully, SPB takes over the rest of the song. IR's rendition of that first stanza is just so stomach-churning...i mean, Kalyana maalaiiiiiiiiii!!! what is that?!!
i've seen people literally plug their ears when he sings that line! Thank heavens SPB comes to the rescue!
But there are certain songs where i'd never have anyone else singing but IR.
My fav IR songs include :
1. intha maan.....this is such an awesome spirited song with great interludes. After i saw this the first time, i almost started believing GA could direct a movie...some of the sequences in that song with Ramarajan & Kanaka are so incredibly authentic....i mean, that song unfailingly takes me back in time...if you've ever been to a village & i mean village as in no-electricity-tent-kottai kind, where you wake up, milk the cow, take a cold dip in the pond, go to the temple, plough the land and lose your heart to the village belle...and i've done all of these...that song captures it so succintly.
There are frontal camera shots of Ramarajan & Kanaka holding hands on top of the old broken village temple...when i saw that the first time, i said, God this guy sure knows his stuff! been there, done that.
truly an awesome IR number.
2. vilaku vechcha nerathilay ( mundani muduchchu )
- Bagyaraj totally wasted this song by playing it at the very beginning when the titles are shown.
So there's no picturization at all :-(
this is one of those radio-classics where the audio version is much better than the video one.
3. kadhal oviyum ( alaigal oivadillai )
- i was in my teens when i saw this one. real timeless classic.
4. poomalaye - mani's done a nice job picturizing this one.
krishnan
- From: chandru (@ spider-wg083.proxy.aol.com)
on: Sun Dec 20 15:48:25 EST 1998
daangs ravi..yes that's what I meant...mudugu kanakula onnu kuttikava? ;-))))))
- From: AthiNarayanan (@ cc1004214-a.avnl1.nj.home.com)
on: Sun Dec 20 17:02:44 EST 1998
I wanted to mention the song
Thai oondu Thanthai oondu in Koil Kalai
and IR's voice suits so nicely to the mood of the song.Iam sure it would have got mentioned in this thread earlier.
Athi
- From: priya (@ cache1.jaring.my)
on: Sun Dec 20 22:25:32 EST 1998
hai, i am a new member in this page.ir voice is like a honey.tamilil sonna tenilum inimaiyanathu.
in his songs i like in
*thenral vanthu (avatharam)
*siru pnmani(kalukul iram)
*kadalulah alukira allaikai(semparuthi)
*kanamma kathal ennum(vanna vanna poogal)
- From: MSK (@ ra5399a-port12.qualcomm.com)
on: Wed Dec 23 05:03:31 EST 1998
Nanthavana kuyile in PVK is my recent favorite !!
Excellent Song guys !!
- From: Desikan (@ a0205.chantilly.mns.net)
on: Wed Dec 23 13:27:46 EST 1998
hi folks ,
why nobody is able to remember the greatest hit of IR. 'janani janani' in thai mookambigai.
this song was supposed to be sung by KJY and IR was just singing the track but on hearing the song fully sung by IR the prod,dir and everyone there were taken aback and struck for few minutes. and atlast they unanimously decided that IR should sing that song. infact i would add some more related to this song. only after this film he became so pious towards mokambiga and from that year onwards he gave up smoking,drinking and eating NV. this one song made him a saint.
- From: Maran (@ bastion.tosco.com)
on: Wed Dec 23 16:18:42 EST 1998
How about the song 'vennilavuk asaipatten' by IR
in poonthotum ? I love it.
- From: S Sridhar (@ unknown-c-23-148.fluordaniel.com)
on: Thu Dec 24 06:22:32 EST 1998
Guys,
IN MY OPINION IR IS SYNONYM FOR FILM MUSIC.
TO NAME EVERGREEN SONGS ARE ;
- SENTHAZHAM POOVIL (MULLUM MALARUM)
- ANNAKKILI (ALL SONGS) ITS JUST LIKE BREAKING WORLD RECORD OF BRAIN LARA IN DEBUT
- KILAKKE POGUM RAIL, AND SO ON ......
- From: Subramanian R (@ uswgne11.uswest.com)
on: Thu Dec 24 18:52:08 EST 1998
Nobody in this world is as shown such a kind of versatility like the great Ilayaraja.Having come from a rural background , where there is little exposure,Ilayaraja has come up in life with utmost self-confidence and dedication to music.We tamilians should be proud of our Ilayaraja.Folk..Carnatic..pop, rap..hindustani,jugal bandhi,symphony ..you name it ..you get it from one and only from raja.Nobody can score a background film music as he does.His background score will carry the entire emotion of the scene the director wants.For eg Mouna Ragam ,Nayagan,Anjali,Apporva Sagothargal......The person whom I most admire is ILAYARAJA
- From: Ravi K. S. Ravichandran (@ ctsasync48.cc.utah.edu)
on: Thu Dec 24 19:27:09 EST 1998
Subramanian:
Well said. It is his ability to compose ranging from "dapponghutthu" to "symphony", both with the necessary rhythm and melody in them, is breathtakingly amazing to me. I am not sure whether there is any other composer who has done such a broad range of music styles. Obviously, this would need a good command of a range of instruments and the corresponding scales. It makes sense when IR says "everything is music and is notes and scales; I am simply manipulating this in different instruments" which tells me about his scientific understanding of music.
Folks, one of his best songs sung by him is "Kan Malargazhin Azhaippithazh.." with Janaki, in film "Thaiponghal". A well recorded CD containing this song is: Ilayaraja sings for you, by EMI, CDPMLP 5330. It also contaings another good one sung by him, "Samakkozhi Kuvuthamma.." in film "Ponnu Oorukku Pudusau"
Ravi K. S. Ravichandran
- From: Krishnamurthy Ganesh (@ 107.portland-01-02rs.or.dial-access.att.net)
on: Fri Dec 25 01:55:50 EST 1998
His voice is definitely not a melodious one. But, no singer can make some songs, better than what IR did to that.
Eg:-
Janani, Janani in Thai Moohambigai and
Kadalila Elumbura Alaigali in Semburuthi.
- From: Magend (@ sp-69-202.tm.net.my)
on: Fri Dec 25 13:27:20 EST 1998
I'm a new member here . I supporting u, Priya because there is no ending for IR voice.
In POONTHOTHAM the song Iniya Malargal and
in KAADHAL KAVITHAI the song Kanamma is really good for IR's charming voice. Thank U
- From: mfm (@ apacscreen.lotus.com.sg)
on: Sat Dec 26 01:50:53 EST 1998
Hi MSK,
Thanks for your response regarding E.V.Kaviyangal. I live in Singapore. Right now in Canberra! Would appreciate if you could mail your email-id to me(senthil_kumar.lotusint@lotus.com)
Applogies for the digression!
mfm
- From: mfm (@ apacscreen.lotus.com.sg)
on: Sat Dec 26 01:51:11 EST 1998
Hi MSK,
Thanks for your response regarding E.V.Kaviyangal. I live in Singapore. Right now in Canberra! Would appreciate if you could mail your email-id to me(senthil_kumar.lotusint@lotus.com)
Apologies for the digression!
mfm
- From: ShibuTN (@ pppa71-springfldpa3-2r271.saturn.bbn.com)
on: Sun Apr 11 02:37:13 EDT 1999
Hi Friends,
To listen to the largest collection of VOICE OF ILAIYARAAJA point your browser to http://music.acmecity.com/rave/20/voice.htm
enjoy
- From: Venkataramanan Govindarajan (@ freeway.proxy.lucent.com)
on: Mon Apr 12 12:07:35 EDT 1999
Hey guys Have you heard the songs from Annan (hope i spelled it right. Souple of songs sung by IR, the music is just phenonmenal. I have observed that most of the songs which he sings the music is just of this world Viz Raja Raja (Agni nat.), April mayille (Idhayam), Valli Valli ena vandal (Deiva Vakku) and so on. Annan is a recent release 1998 March. there is a song sung by IR, Alla marathu Kuyile .... this song is just great. But i must admit that this song sung by any body like SPB or KJY or HH would have done little more justice to that song. IMHO I give the link to the song (if it does not work you can go the main web site and look for it)
http://www.mail-bag.com/raWrap.cgi?http://members.tripod.com/~Maestroraaja/aalamara.RA
- From: THamizhan (@ fibre12.vds.com.au)
on: Mon Apr 12 14:29:39 EDT 1999
Hi friends,
IR's voice is certainly not the best and I accept all the expert views about him singing through his nose, but inspite of it he's churned up quite a few hits. Now take a list of songs that he's sung and you'll find a majority of them were hits whether the sound came from his nose or ears. Adding on to the list of his best
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Oorellam un Paattu than (which KJY also sang)
Kanne Navamaniye onna kaanama Kannurangumo(En Bommukutti AMmavukku)
- From: Deepu (@ )
on: Mon May 8 09:02:32 EDT 2000
I am a new person using this chat.I read all your opinions and the real bottom line concluson is that IR is IR.No one can beat him,whether he sings from his nose or from anywhere.His songs are real touchy and makes people feel the inside of the song and also makes people forget about anything.I bet taht there is no one to beat him or even later.
- From: lr.sankar (@ cbe-d52.pppmad.vsnl.net.in)
on: Sat May 13 13:00:54 EDT 2000
thai mookambigai temple web address pls
- From: LR.Sankar (@ 202.169.129.72)
on: Fri Jul 14 09:54:41 EDT 2000
i like ur "germaniyin senthenmalare" from ullasa paravaigal. it is very super song .
- From: Mathew (@ 12.235.58.46)
on: Sun Jul 21 12:41:27 EDT 2002
Hi if anyone have this song in mp3 please send to
jmathewa@hotmail.com
- From: shadotcom (@ 202.156.2.59)
on: Tue Jul 15 02:39:00 EDT 2003
Dear Friends,
You want Illayaraja MP3 songs?. Please visit http://www.geocities.com/ir_mp3/
- From: suresh (@ 192.128.133.68)
on: Sun Mar 21 13:14:51 EST 2004
visit http://www.geocities.com/tamil_gana/solo.htm for 'janani janani' song.
- From: sarathy (@ 203.195.190.146)
on: Wed Jun 16 00:16:22 EDT 2004
Coming soon, The official site for THe only Tamil Film music Legend ilayaraja:
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