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A request to amateur composers who visit this page

Topic started by Vijay (@ 212.137.205.127) on Thu Nov 16 16:58:22 EST 2000.
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I'd like to request amateur composers who visit this page to tell me if they've uploaded any of their work onto the internet and if they have, please tell me where I can listen to it. Thank You.

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• From: bb (@ 216.217.80.201) on: Wed Jun 20 15:38:11 EDT 2001
  
  vidhya:)))))) aruL is right.. it is bhayam kolluvaar, not koLLuvaar.
  
  
• From: bb (@ 216.217.80.201) on: Wed Jun 20 15:39:01 EDT 2001
  
  rather, bhayang kolluvaar.
  
  
• From: Chandrasekaran (@ 207.208.176.190) on: Wed Jun 20 15:39:17 EDT 2001
  
  Srikanth: Pleasing tune. Excellent rhythm selection.
  Vidhya: Brilliant voice. Keep it up
  
  
• From: aruLaracan (@ 134.124.160.10) on: Wed Jun 20 15:41:45 EDT 2001
  
  while on pronunciation, please change "solluvAr" to "cholluvAr"; also, instead of bhAratha if she says bhAradha it would sound much better. when the pallavi is sung for the first time, the second voice comes with a little delay (you can notice it when she says "midi" [:-)] ). i don't know if it was deliberate, but just wanted to let you know.
  
  the music conception is good. since you are open to criticism and suggestions, i would like to make another comment: bhArathiyAr has wrote each of his songs with a prescription of a rAgam (which means he "composed" the songs!); it would be nice if you could try to stick to "his" rAgams. it's unfortunate that even people like IR who know a lot of thamizh and music don't pay attention to this kind of detail :-(
  
  
• From: bb (@ 216.217.80.201) on: Wed Jun 20 15:45:05 EDT 2001
  
  yes, peyarch cholluvaar..
  
  
• From: aruLaracan (@ 134.124.160.10) on: Wed Jun 20 15:49:09 EDT 2001
  
  vidhyA: i have bhArathiyAr's kavidhaigaL in front of me while typing :-). i am very ignorant when it comes to music, but so very ignorant when it comes to tamiz, and especially bhArathiyAr (during high school i spent the most of the last two year memorizing his poems :-) ).
  
  btw, your voice and delivery is good. i am listening to it for the sixth time in the last 10 minutes (kaNakku konjam odhaikkum, kaNdukkAdhInga :-)) ).
  
  
• From: hihi:-) (@ 134.124.160.10) on: Wed Jun 20 15:51:00 EDT 2001
  
  i am very ignorant when it comes to music, but so very ignorant when it comes to tamiz, though is very correct (the "correct" freudian slip!) i meant to say "i am very ignorant when it comes to music, but not so very ignorant when it comes to tamiz,"
  
  :)
  
  
• From: bb (@ 216.217.80.201) on: Wed Jun 20 15:51:46 EDT 2001
  
  so very ignorant? freudian slipA:)
  
  
• From: comment (@ 12.5.10.153) on: Wed Jun 20 15:52:38 EDT 2001
  
  arul you just have one job to do, like seeing the lyrics, i am as a composer have to arrange a unquie tune..etc etc . secondly you also know the fact that vidhya is an expert in tamil, i left it to her to check her lines. I was more concentrating on her singing. might be if you had been here, it would have worked out.
  
  Also taking the same bharathi's original ragam I dont accept to this, Music is big.... bharathi has done ragams, fine, it is only a suggestion or gudie line, but that should not stand in the way others creativity. I took mand and mohanam, musically it has some nice flavor, I like the song, we can discount these minor mistakes in the name of being amature musicians. Hey! you are getting it free!.
  
  
  
• From: bb (@ 216.217.80.201) on: Wed Jun 20 15:52:55 EDT 2001
  
  ha, u caught the freudian slip 46 secs before:)
  
  
• From: rajaG (@ 208.24.179.207) on: Wed Jun 20 15:53:54 EDT 2001
  
  Vidhya: Superb singing. I always believe that ladies singing in natural voice sounds much better than the artificial false voice high pitch keech mooch. And you have just proved that.
  
  Sriki: I wish you had spent more time on variations in the melody. idhula konjam same tune thirumbi thirumbi repeat aagira madhiri irukku. Also, I want to hear a few more of minor scale compositions from you. naduvula SPB Oda comparison aa? umm.....nadaththungO nadaththungO! nEram:-)
  
  Overall - Very good!!
  
  
• From: Aditya (@ 160.231.1.100) on: Wed Jun 20 15:54:02 EDT 2001
  
  Comment:
  
  Good RagaMalika. I am sure you had good inspiration from "Sowkiyama" from Sangamam. Specially when vocal phrases on "Mand" raaga was rendered - including the effects. Folks, don't misunderstand that I meant it was a copy. This song has every qualification to be unique and I appreciate comment's efforts in making it his way.
  I liked it.
  
  Wonderful piano intro in "AmruthaVarshani" raaga - very melodious. But song starts suddenly ( shockingly in an unexpected tempo ) in Kalyani Raaga. Usage of Mand Raaga is very good. Then the most intersting thing is that transition to Mohana Raaga phrases towards the end ( beautifully blended with some synth effects like water etc., )
  
  Singer did wonderful rendition. Good Job Vidhya.
  Since you guys have good future, please take a point that there was some off shruti of vocal when she says bharatha desham phrase at 3rd time, around 39.9 - there was an off shruti. Orchestral arrangement ( Jazz Style ) when the song changes to mohana raga is not seeming to be the most suitable one for this kind of classical song. However this is your way and so let's take it as it's!
  
  Good Song - Great Effort! I thoroughly enjoyed.
  
  Regards,
  Aditya
  
  
• From: Naveen (@ 204.255.14.188) on: Wed Jun 20 15:59:27 EDT 2001
  
  Arul, bb,
  
  I don't understand what is wrong in pronouncing 'Solluvaar' and 'Bhaaratham'
  'ch' sound comes usually after 'ai' like (peyaraich cholluvaar) otherwise 'Solluvaar' is fine.
  
  BTW. Bharathi is from 'Yettaiyaapuram' which is near Tirunellivelli. He must have sung in TVL accent.
  
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 129.252.222.2) on: Wed Jun 20 16:04:15 EDT 2001
  
  Vidhya and comment - Great job!! a pleasing composition!!
  
  
• From: rajaG (@ 208.24.179.207) on: Wed Jun 20 16:05:13 EDT 2001
  
  aruL/bb: sa, cha prayOgam rules enna konjam solla/cholla mudiyumaa? I can really use that knowledge.
  
  
• From: aruLaracan (@ 134.124.160.10) on: Wed Jun 20 16:06:14 EDT 2001
  
  srikanth: as udhayA says in this song you seem to have broken away from your "usual" :-) style and tread in to a new terrirory. very good effort. the recording and mixing also sound much crisper than your earlier recordings. the mridhangam could be a little bit more sharper. in total this tops your comps so far. the melody is good, you have given vidhyA some tough challenges and she meets them without much effort. the pallavi is very catchy.
  
  
• From: rajaG (@ 208.24.179.207) on: Wed Jun 20 16:07:50 EDT 2001
  
  Aditya: unless you have a different file, I didn't notice any Amritavarshini or Kalyaani. It is plain and simple maand with some detour in the second charaNam.
  
  
• From: Aditya (@ 160.231.1.100) on: Wed Jun 20 16:14:07 EDT 2001
  
  RajaG:
  
  Thanks!
  
  Regards,
  Aditya
  
  
• From: aruLaracan (@ 134.124.160.10) on: Wed Jun 20 16:21:13 EDT 2001
  
  rAjAjI: rule of thumb in thamizh. when a word starts with a consonant (as in cholluvAr), it is the hard sound (cha as opposed to the soft one jA and softer sa) that should be used. when the consonants appear alone (that is, without doubling called oRRu), the soft sound should be used. here are some example for all the kavarga, chavaraga ....
  
  (1) kAkkai not gAkkai :-)
  (2) kAgam not kAkam
  (3) mangai not mankai
  (4) cholluvAr not solluvAr
  (5) pasi not pachi
  (6) pachchadi not passadi (and never pajjadi)
  (7) panju not panchu (not pansu)
  (8) thandhai not dhandhai (not dhanthai)
  (9) thaththai not thadhdhai
  (10) madhippu not mathippu
  (11) paNbu not baNbu
  (12) appaLam not abbaLam (odanjidum ;-) )
  (13) panbaram not pamparam
  
  the sound da/ta never appear in the beginning of any tamiz word bu their usage is as follows.
  
  (14) patti not paddi
  (15) padam not patam
  (16) maNdu not maNtu
  
  there are three more sets of sounds (la/La/za and ra/Ra and na,Na,n-a) which are much difficult to grasp. la/La/za problem is well known.
  
  ra is pronunced without rolling of the tongue and Ra is pronunced with rolling. (otherwise it would be difficult to differentiate between chira (head) and chiRai (prison) :-) ). the thannagara n-a (the one that appears in words like thandhai, mandhai) is pronunced with the tip of the tongue touching the justion of the teeth and gums. the mUNusuzi Na is pronunced with the tongue folded way back inside and touching the upper palatte. the reNdusuzi na, which is the most difficult to handle - tougher than za - is pronunced by touching the upper palatte with the tongue at a place halfway between n-a and Na. (i am still learning how to pronunce this sound! :-( ).
  
  hope these short descriptions help.
  
  
• From: aruLaracan (@ 134.124.160.10) on: Wed Jun 20 16:25:53 EDT 2001
  
  Vidhya: Superb singing. I always believe that ladies singing in natural voice sounds much better than the artificial false voice high pitch keech mooch. And you have just proved that.
  
  very true.
  
  srikanth. those were just suggestions. if you need tips/help on pronunciation call me, or give my number to the singers.
  
  
• From: comment (@ 12.5.10.153) on: Wed Jun 20 16:26:50 EDT 2001
  
  I Think arul can move this to a new thread called professional tamilists who (bothers too much:) comes here
  :)
  
  
• From: hihi:-) (@ 134.124.160.10) on: Wed Jun 20 16:28:56 EDT 2001
  
  comment: :-))))))))))
  
  
• From: MS (@ 129.252.222.2) on: Wed Jun 20 16:30:56 EDT 2001
  
  vidhya and Srikanth - well done !
  
  
• From: comment (@ 12.5.10.153) on: Wed Jun 20 16:32:11 EDT 2001
  
  http://www.clarkson.edu/~srinivar/Bharathiyar/GIF/b5500.html
  
  
  :)
  
  
• From: hihi:-) (@ 134.124.160.10) on: Wed Jun 20 16:32:32 EDT 2001
  
  comment: bb wrote "veLLip panimalaiyin meedhulaavuvOmadi is wrong. adi is not a calling sound here. adi mElaik kadal muzhudhum-nnu thaan varaNum" add his name too in the list of "professional" tamilist :-))))
  
  
• From: Naveen (@ 204.255.14.188) on: Wed Jun 20 16:36:15 EDT 2001
  
  comment,
  
  Did you find any difficulty while recording 'Pa', 'Ba' and 'Th' sounds. My brothers who are singers, and myself are working on an album and we faced some difficulty while doing voice recording without a 'Pop Filter' Do you use 'Pop Filter' to arrest Puff sounds? Or else do you advise the singers to control puffs?
  
  Thanks in advance
  
  
  
• From: comment (@ 12.5.10.153) on: Wed Jun 20 16:40:57 EDT 2001
  
  naveen, yes, I use a pop filter. It is a must.
  thanks for you comments.
  
  
  

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