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6 Songs : Mind Blowing!!
Source :HinduTimes
http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_465617,00110003.htm
Simply mind-blowing
November 20
Ajay Devgan and Vivek Oberoi can’t stop raving about the songs of Mani Ratnam’s Yuva. “A.R. Rahman and Mani Sir and dynamite together,” says Vivek on the sets of Indra Kumar and Ashok Thakeria’s Masti, and adds, “The six songs Rahman has recorded for the film are mind-blowing.”
Ajay Devgan, his co-star in Yuva and Masti, uses the same words to describe them. Incidentally, when the film was launched earlier this year, Mani Ratnam had decided not to have a single song in it.
Vivek also feels that Abhishek Bachchan’s is the best role and best performance in the film. “That guy’s career will take off in a big way after Yuva,” predicts Vivek.
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- From: Wondering (@ 207.43.195.13)
on: Wed Jun 2 10:12:08 EDT 2004
Ist week total (calculated) All India : 7.45 cr -7.50 cr
"Verdict - Considering the heavy prices at which ´Yuva´ has been sold to the distributors, it is bound to entail heavy losses to all of them. Business in B & C centres has been very ordinary."
http://www.planetbollywood.com/BoxOffice/b060104-132107.php
- From: curses (@ 203.101.33.54)
on: Wed Jun 2 10:27:38 EDT 2004
ennada romba naala kaanume paarthen.
:)
- From: curses (@ 203.101.33.54)
on: Wed Jun 2 10:28:47 EDT 2004
http://in.rediff.com/movies/2004/jun/02yuva1.htm
- From: aishwarya (@ 202.156.2.123)
on: Wed Jun 2 10:34:01 EDT 2004
paavam Mani sir..
- From: F e r r a r i (@ 202.56.254.13)
on: Wed Jun 2 10:45:37 EDT 2004
what paavam?
The article says he was in a good mood, and all distrbutors were there along with him. Mani can lie, actors can lie, we all Mani fans can lie.
But why on earth should the distributors lie that the movie is hit, when it is actually a flop?
Movie is a hit. Thats the moral of the story.
- From: rs (@ 61.2.225.121)
on: Wed Jun 2 11:21:38 EDT 2004
namma yuva / ae negative reviews to start with.......
so ungalthu success aagum nu ninaikkaren..
http://sysindia.com/forums/Jokes/posts/8204.html
- From: tom (@ 198.232.250.51)
on: Wed Jun 2 11:26:51 EDT 2004
"But why on earth should the distributors lie that the movie is hit, when it is actually a flop?
"
That way they can pretend that the movie is a hit and hope that that will get some crowd (gullible ones) to the theatres. See they have convinced at least you that the films is a hit. Ellam marketing gimmick'than, MBA holder'pa.
- From: jacky (@ 61.2.225.85)
on: Wed Jun 2 11:27:39 EDT 2004
Ferr,
Ethavathu Visu padam pathingala?
:)
- From: Music4ever (@ 130.111.58.78)
on: Wed Jun 2 11:49:04 EDT 2004
Gyan, please let listeners be. By your own admission, you were "musically unsavvy" until the late nineties, see your write-up partly reproduced here:
Begin QUOTE
I was no MSV fan till around late 90s, can u believe that? IR' energy levels, so many orchestration ideas never before heard, different mood pictures, sharpness in melodies, rhythms all were not MSV traits. But, as I am older I am understanding Carnatic music for the first time and hence MSV' depth, when formerly I wanted energy ...
End Quote
Why should one impose upon the younger lot? ARR's music is good, period. Of course sometimes he probably borrows from other existing works, but the final product is definitely good, IMO.
IR is a Legend, which everyone and his aunt agrees with readily. The sheer number of innovative melodies is mind boggling, no doubt.
- From: TNS (@ 219.65.108.101)
on: Wed Jun 2 14:30:56 EDT 2004
CNBC Channel in their weekly box office report said Yava had first week 75% collections in Multiplex small theatres in Mumbai and 25% in regular theatres and all over North it's first week collections after tax and theatre rentals werebelow average.
Distributor joins MR to give impression to Public so that those who opt for HumTUMmay re consider going to Yuwa...
Director saran did similar press conference in Chennai for Jay Jay which was declared a flop after a month by Trade.
- From: Gyan (@ 4.158.114.156)
on: Wed Jun 2 15:45:55 EDT 2004
Music4ever, pls don't mistake me, I am not imposing, I am syaing, this is my perspective, if you want you can accept that viewpoint of a different level. that is all.
It looks like you are saying that I am placing IR at the level of Rahman in perpective. I am saying I did not find MSV of KVM worth a second listen, because it seemed they were too "country" type. IR had everything for every listener, amazing sounds, amazing unexpected tune shifts, fantastic rhythm for each song..... that was why I ignored the earlier composers, little understanding that original approach was classical based and pure traditional compositions that could captivate the minds of a mture listener even without any orchestration.
Can you say of that for Rahman? He cuts and pastes 2 or 3 songs to make one song. MSV and IR, if at all they get inspired, they make it blatantly known and develop those foreing tunes to unbelievable heights . eg: MSV's Azhagiya Thamizh Magal Ival (Stranger's In The Night) and IR' Kadhal Vanthirichu or even Darling, Darling song. You cannot believe what these two composers can do. ARR has no tune, no energy, no interludes, no new ideas - but mistaking his rhythms for the zip and energy and "the" innovation is lack of musical maturity and hence, I am saying a new generation of young blood seeking raw rhythms whether copied or looped or whatever." Before I was captivated by IR, me and that generation had been exposed to tremendous variety of music and by comparison, IR was and is unique todate and beyond!!!
Can anyone say that of Rahman? I am not condemning Rahman (His father was a far superior composer himself and when you hear it seems like Rahman broke loose from everything, being neither here nor there. I personally don't find Rahman deserving more attention that say, Veda or Sankar-Ganesh who were more vibrant without using "rhythms" to give the pretext of spontaneity? composing is not about putting pieces together, it is about a natural flow. There was a song I thought Rahman did a good job, Vaaraga Nadi Karai Oram, but hey that is rare) I am in full support of Harris Jayaraj and Karthik Raja, Deva even, but not Rahman - yes, he is different (because he is not Gaana type like S A Rajkumar or Deva?! )but where is the substance?!
- From: k (@ 165.140.4.22)
on: Wed Jun 2 17:02:05 EDT 2004
I know Gyan's going to get pounced on here...but if one rationally analyzes they would find a lot of merit in what Gyan has written. The hype about Rahman's music is much more than the actual contribution.
- From: vimal (@ 195.93.32.11)
on: Wed Jun 2 17:26:47 EDT 2004
gyan,you have written what I have felt for a very long time-one point is about his interludes-atrocious at times.while I do not dislike his songs,I feel that he is just not upto mark in his interludes. take for eg ale ale song from boys-nice tune -but interludes,if you call a chorus shouting hooooo interlude,are a joke.He used to do good interludes-not now.
I feel that MR and ARR have lost the soul in their creativity once they smelled the money from hindi belt-evrything is done with them in theeir mind.
- From: neruppu (@ 208.48.57.63)
on: Wed Jun 2 18:08:41 EDT 2004
i am a huge fan of IR. But i cannot understand why anyone would call rahman's music a hype? i dont know how music can be hyped? We all know IR was great. But then he did his fair share of "coasting along", just using tried and tested formulae repeatedly..the volume of his production left him with no other choice. but he did experiment frequently. I do feel Rahman, though not at the same level, strives to make god music. You cannot blame him for the "substance"..its a world of diminuitively small attention spans that we live in. evrything is seemingly fleeting..'substance' itself has been devalued in favor of other 'merits' like catchiness etc..Rahman is but the outcome of his times, much in same way as IR is of his. Western music has similar scenario. Classic rock would be 'substance'..now U2 is considered 'substance'. they are a great band but then compare them to the beatles, doors, the stones..
- From: paran (@ 203.123.16.3)
on: Wed Jun 2 21:48:29 EDT 2004
Ananda Vikadan-le "Story Writing Competition" announce panni irukangala?
- From: neruppu (@ 208.48.57.63)
on: Wed Jun 2 21:57:10 EDT 2004
aamam paran..adhanaladhan ellorum aangilathila ezhudhikittirukkom
- From: paran (@ 203.123.16.3)
on: Wed Jun 2 23:14:53 EDT 2004
neruppu.... :)
naan "Story Writing Competition"-thaane sonnen....
"Kathai Yeluthum Potti"-ne solleve illaiye...
he he he
- From: ~sridhar (@ 203.145.186.2)
on: Thu Jun 3 00:15:40 EDT 2004
Gyan,
It was nice to read your opinion on IR, ARR..coz your opinions seem to be eerily similar to mine. Of course, the only difference is that I feel IR is the one who lacks substance (Note: He is miles ahead when compared to the rest of the lot, but its that he falls short of ARR). When I begin listening to an ARR song, I am hooked onto it through its entirety. Surprisingly, I find that IR's interludes & for that matter, the rest of the song arent really as enticing as the beginning.
But, does this mean that I am going to shoot my mouth off about IR in all IR-related forums? Nope.
Coming back to the topic, AE is a super-hit, as well as a great movie! (Now, thats a rarity!) :)
- From: Jacky (@ 61.1.201.152)
on: Thu Jun 3 00:55:42 EDT 2004
"I am in full support of Harris Jayaraj and Karthik Raja, Deva even, but not Rahman"
Considering the law of mutual respect in deference, i wanna say something less provocative :)
To lionize IR U needn't use disparaged examples which only epitomizes a disease called "Vayatherical"
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