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Ayutha Ezhuthu By A.R.Rahman

Topic started by dinesh (@ 210.186.42.195) on Thu Nov 20 23:13:59 EST 2003.
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6 Songs : Mind Blowing!!
Source :HinduTimes

http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_465617,00110003.htm

Simply mind-blowing

November 20

Ajay Devgan and Vivek Oberoi can’t stop raving about the songs of Mani Ratnam’s Yuva. “A.R. Rahman and Mani Sir and dynamite together,” says Vivek on the sets of Indra Kumar and Ashok Thakeria’s Masti, and adds, “The six songs Rahman has recorded for the film are mind-blowing.”

Ajay Devgan, his co-star in Yuva and Masti, uses the same words to describe them. Incidentally, when the film was launched earlier this year, Mani Ratnam had decided not to have a single song in it.

Vivek also feels that Abhishek Bachchan’s is the best role and best performance in the film. “That guy’s career will take off in a big way after Yuva,” predicts Vivek.

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• From: Thamizhan (@ 61.2.225.159) on: Mon May 3 06:12:57 EDT 2004
  
  Dol Dol better aaa?
  Those guys can't be critics at all...Dol Dol can't be considered as a track at all,its a collection of noises,i doubt whether it was composed by Rahman himself,or that 'Vyadhi' Blazee, a good-for-nothing fellow composed it,its a blackmark for the great Ratnam-Rahman combo which amazed us right from 'Roja'.
  
  
• From: C~P (@ 61.95.159.19) on: Mon May 3 07:40:02 EDT 2004
  
  Ennapa ippadi solliteenga? Maniratnam did not want any songs in this film. After Rahman asked him about this, MR asked him to compose a music bit - Dol Dol. Only after this did Mani decide that more songs would be nice.
  
  Nalla paattu dhaan, enki pidkum. Endrendrum Punnagai alavukku ellam illai. Aanalum Dhanya vayatherichal-la pesaraalo-nu ninaikkaraen! :-D
  
  
• From: Thamizhan (@ 61.2.224.220) on: Mon May 3 10:34:39 EDT 2004
  
  Yeh C~P,Dol dol paataa?
  I think MR would have asked a BGM for that character played by Madhavan,so Rahman would have come up with it,I think with visuals it may go well,but as a song..no...no,Endrendrum punnagai is great man..that too that small rap sung by Praveen Mani..'Hey here we go'.Dol dol is no way near it.But one cann understand that Mani always needs tracks that fit into his theme,so a Rowdy needs such a song only.
  I find this Blazee as a irritating guy,perhaps he is Rahman's idea of Desi-Rapper,but its time Rahman leaves such ideas of Rapping in India,hope this guy's garish humming doesn't spoil any other great song in the future..
  Blazee is fit to do stuff like B to the A to the B....only,Blazee pls don't write anything rubbish,and for heaven's sake pls don't sing them....
  
  Anyway ARR top da..though i was dissapointed as i expected more from this combo,now you see the other soundtracks available...Arul is total rubbish by HJ(vaera enna irukkum??),Aethiree by YSR is a total wash-out.
  Vidyasagar's 'Gilli'..orey dappanguthu,ARR in the top,even ARR's mediocre work(i am firm in this) like this surpasses others.
  
  
• From: Thamizhan (@ 61.2.224.220) on: Mon May 3 10:40:03 EDT 2004
  
  // MR asked him to compose a music bit - Dol Dol. Only after this did Mani decide that more songs would be nice.
  //
  
  Mani knows very well that without songs he can't market his film,without songs our 'Janangals' won't even remember that such a movie has come,but hoping to see the day where Mani makes a movie without songs and Rahman doing only BGM,then only Rahman will come up something great in BGM,till now Rahman's record in BGM is not satisfactory,he uses the song tunes in the background.
  
  
• From: jacky (@ 61.1.201.141) on: Mon May 3 10:44:24 EDT 2004
  
  ^ARR's mediocre work(i am firm in this) like this surpasses others.
  
  atleast 3 songs to me are no mediocre work.
  JGM
  Fanah
  Nenjamellam kathal.
  
  
• From: jacky (@ 61.1.201.141) on: Mon May 3 10:47:00 EDT 2004
  
  If you had watched Madans thirai parvai 100th episode, Mani said he didn't wanna do a film without songs.
  He didn't wanna break the ice :)
  
  
• From: magix (@ 203.101.34.107) on: Mon May 3 10:51:20 EDT 2004
  
  add 2 more songs when it come to me..
  Hey Goodbye Nanba.
  Sandai Kozhi. :)
  
  hey, eppovum ullarara maari ullararalai! I seriously think the songs are great. Sandai Kozhi was one of those "surprises". The kinda stuff u absolutely hate at first hearing, and before u know it.. u'll completely adore it.
  Thamizh kolaiya vidunga, the sheer melodic value of the song really touches ppl. In a word, Beautiful! :)
  
  
• From: C~P (@ 61.95.159.19) on: Mon May 3 10:52:10 EDT 2004
  
  Thamizhan,
  "Rahman's record in BGM is not satisfactory,he uses the song tunes in the background."
  He uses song tunes in the background, yeah, but even this was awesome in Alaipaayudhae. It went along nicely. He can perhaps compose some extra pieces and use them in the film. Something like "Sattena" in Kannathil Muthamittal. Adhukku maela I don't think there is any fault with it. Ilayaraja kooda main-a brilliant pieces compose panni repeat pannuvaaru films-la. That's what is required I guess.
  
  
• From: jacky (@ 61.1.201.141) on: Mon May 3 10:56:48 EDT 2004
  
  I am ok with SK but i feel Orey chorey was better.
  I liked good bye nanba, it had the variantions, min lyrics, it allowed Rahman to experiment a bit.
  
  
• From: virus (@ 81.185.53.191) on: Mon May 3 11:30:22 EDT 2004
  
  V plz post ur message in uyirvani i will do more thing for u all guys.
  
  
• From: Thamizhan (@ 61.2.225.10) on: Mon May 3 11:31:57 EDT 2004
  
  Yeah those small songs in BGM,they were always great C~P,
  remember 'ri sa ri sa' in Jeans,in those sequences shot at US.
  similarly bit songs in 'Kaadhalan' were great.
  I pointed this as Mediocre because this combo has always come up with something completely awesome,though comparisons are odd,one can't really take this in the league of their last work KM(What a great album which fetched ARR his 4th National award)...but i can understand that this theme needs different approach.
  
  
• From: Dorai (@ 198.16.9.10) on: Mon May 3 11:45:43 EDT 2004
  
  What's lacking in ARR's background is variation of the song melodies. IR excels is that area. For e.g., he has used several variations of the song 'Manjal Pusum Vaanam' in the background music for Friends whenever Surya and his lover meets. That's what is lacking in ARR.
  
  
• From: curses (@ 203.101.37.116) on: Mon May 3 12:33:48 EDT 2004
  
  Dorai,
  There has been complaints in this very forum that ARR uses varaitions of his melodies as BGM! :)
  
  ippo ennakku orae kuzhappam! :(
  
  
• From: shankarmix (@ 207.134.87.202) on: Mon May 3 12:37:44 EDT 2004
  
  I think ar rahman is still the best of the best. I dont think haris jayaraj could come to rahman posisition because his songs are still not like even rahman style. He composes music like deva I can see that in vickram's movie arul. Rahman is completly different than anyone music directors in india that i can say.
  
  
• From: curses (@ 203.101.37.116) on: Mon May 3 12:47:03 EDT 2004
  
  The problem was.. HJ had a massive Rahman hangover.
  When he was new to TFM, he did give some good tunes, but it had a constant Rahman undertone to it. And, whether he did it unconsciously or intentionally, his interludes and tunes sounded too much like Rahman's songs to have been left unheeded.
  
  But now, the guy perhaps thinks he's got an idea of ppl's taste. And the kinda tunes he comes up w/ now... I'd rather have him do some classy stuff even if it sounds like Rahman's songs, than listen to him come up w/ pathetic stuff like this!
  
  this is all IMO. serious-a post panni romba naal aache-nu oru nethi kadan. theethukiten! :)
  
  
• From: C~P (@ 61.95.159.19) on: Mon May 3 12:58:43 EDT 2004
  
  Thamizhan,
  As you said, this film needs these kind of songs. Youth album obviously doesn't have soul stirring music. That is what you feel lacking since all Mani's films have been emotional subjects. When it comes to the youth, it needs to be peppy. Aayidha Ezhuthu definitely has the freshness of a Rahman album. From that point of view it definitely is not lesser in quality to any Rahman album.
  
  Dorai,
  Edhu eppadiyo, I remember that different versions of VaanNila from Kadhal Virus were available in ARRYG. So, he definitely has done such stuff.
  
  curses,
  Serious posting-o seyyara. Andha magix maanasthana pesa vittirukkalaam-la?! :-)
  
  
• From: Dorai (@ 198.16.9.10) on: Mon May 3 13:13:43 EDT 2004
  
  C~P, Curses,
  Of course ARR uses simple variations of his songs in his background music (e.g., Alaipayuthe, KKKK). Simply repeating Alaipayuthe and Sakiyee tunes does not produce great bgm.
  
  IR excels by not using simple or straight variations of the songs but taking the essense of the tune, changing it and coming up with something different (within the same melody/scale). That's where ARR sounds so weak (may be not weak, but lacks interest).
  
  
• From: C~P (@ 61.95.159.19) on: Mon May 3 13:31:24 EDT 2004
  
  Dorai,
  That's what I was talking about. I do not know how many films he has used this in. But, I know for sure he had variations of VaanNila in Kadhal Virus - Romantic, Sad, Happy-nu downloads were available at ARRYG. I am not justifying anything here. Adhuvum try panninaaru, but adhoda evalo dhooram persist panninaaru-nu solla vandhaen.
  
  
• From: ~sridhar (@ 203.145.186.2) on: Mon May 3 23:20:12 EDT 2004
  
  Another point regarding songs coming as BGM:
  In Mani's films, the songs have quite a bit of situational context. So, if the song fits the sequence of events perfectly, shouldnt it also be logical that the music for the scenes before & after also have similar music.
  
  Anyway, I hope that AE is released on time in Bangalore. Coz KM was released a week late here. Reviews padichittu kaathindirukka ennaala mudiyaadhu!
  
  
• From: kk (@ 210.210.34.201) on: Tue May 4 00:19:16 EDT 2004
  
  http://www.geocities.com/dirmanirathnam
  
  April 29, 2004
  Funda on Fanah
  Guest Blog 4 - Anand Chandrasekharan
  
  Just like a book on Oprah's list suddenly sees sales go through the roof, words used in a Rahman song suddenly come find themselves in vogue. Fanah may have come into popular conversation that way, but it actually has both spiritual and philosophical meaning in Islam.
  
  One of the early Islamic writers (Ghazzali) used Fanah in the Ihya to refer to self-actualization, in a Buddhistic Nirvana Sense. In the state of Fanah, the individual loses the person in the temporal world. This kind of writing met with opposition from some interpreters, who claimed that such a moral world had never existed except in the Quran.
  
  The general theme of the song, that love leads to a higher plane (a la Piravi pizhai, kadhal thirutham) resonates with Ghazzali's writings, which says that an understanding and following of the Tawhidi in daily life, leads to the state of Fanah.
  
  There you have it! When Vairamuthu says Yakkai thiri, Kadhal Sudar (My body the wick, your love the flame!), we know nothing can follow but Fanah!... It probably also explains why, this is one of those rare occasions when it's hard to come up with a single word in Tamil which conveys the same meaning (and hence the Urdu word is re-used in the Tamil version).
  
  http://www.lazygeek.net/
  
  

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