Raga of song please
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- From: IR_Fan (@ 202.88.154.169)
on: Wed Nov 7 00:32:34 EST 2001
IR/MS/other PTRTTs (excluding me & kupps),
amma amma entahn aar uriye" from rajini movie "uzhapaali" ....what raga please....
- From: Kupps (@ 156.153.255.126)
on: Wed Nov 7 02:37:48 EST 2001
IR_Fan,
:-))
- From: IR (@ 4.3.191.65)
on: Wed Nov 7 06:38:51 EST 2001
hayyayooo IR Fan indha PTRTT ya vittrunga please :-) Ellarum therinjadha thaan sollarom and ellame avanga avanga opinions thaane :-)
- From: IR_Fan (@ 202.88.154.169)
on: Wed Nov 7 07:02:30 EST 2001
IR...
:-)done...i will not use the term PTRTTs hereafter...
kupps, this goes out to you too...OK'va?
"amma amma enthan aar uriye" from rajini movie "uzhapaali" ....what raga please....
- From: IR (@ 38.220.167.212)
on: Wed Nov 7 10:22:25 EST 2001
IR Fan - is there an audio link for that song?
- From: Sreenivas (@ 131.124.100.125)
on: Wed Nov 7 16:41:03 EST 2001
IR_Fan:
"amma amma endhan aar uyire" sounds like 'sivaranjani' only!
- From: balaji (@ 203.116.61.132)
on: Wed Nov 7 22:42:19 EST 2001
Please help..
the ragam of the song Azhage Sugama. from parthale paravasam. (srinivas & sadhna sargam) is
excellent throughout.
There are various ragam in it. Please discuss on
the tail violin piece of this song is it THODI.
thanks a lot if anyone help me out.
- From: IR_Fan (@ 202.88.154.169)
on: Wed Nov 7 23:45:40 EST 2001
I thought "azhage sugama" in PP was SAHANA...
Sreenivas, i initially posted it "amma amma enthan aar oyire" from "uzhaipaali" as sivaranjani only...posted here for validation...
IR...could not find any MP3 source for the song...
- From: Kupps (@ 156.153.255.134)
on: Thu Nov 8 01:13:40 EST 2001
OK IR_Fan
From now onwards i won't call PTRTTs as PTRTTs :-)
- From: non_PTRTT (@ 202.88.154.169)
on: Thu Nov 8 02:09:48 EST 2001
Kupps...how dare you use the word PTRTTs saying," From now onwards i won't call PTRTTs as PTRTTs."...By that statement you have already used PTRTTs twice, by which you have made PTRTTs 'twice' as angry as they would normally be, if we called them PTRTTs. So, hereafter, never use the term PTRTTs if you want to refer to any PTRTTs.
- From: MS (@ 129.252.25.160)
on: Thu Nov 8 02:23:52 EST 2001
hey guys..what is going on.. ?
- From: Kupps (@ 156.153.255.134)
on: Thu Nov 8 02:24:29 EST 2001
velramanan,
:-)))
- From: Kupps (@ )
on: Thu Nov 8 02:35:26 EST 2001
MS want to know whats going on? Let me explain you.
On IR's(of our forum) request(or shall i say order) IR_Fan agreed not to call you PTRTTs anymore as PTRTTs. He also called for the same from me ie not to call you PTRTTs as PTRTTs, for which I agreed that from now onwards I won't call PTRTTs as PTRTTs. But velramanan found fault in that statement of mine. He says by referring you PTRTTs twice as PTRTTs in the statement "from now onwards I won't call PTRTTs as PTRTTs" I have dared to err. He feels thus I might have angered you PTRTTs twice as I called you PTRTTs twice as PTRTTs. So he(velramanan) told me that hereafter if I wish to call you PTRTTs as PTRTTs I should not call you PTRTTs as PTRTTs because by calling you PTRTTs as PTRTTs I make you PTRTTs to get anger twice because I call you PTRTTs twice as PTRTTs. So hence I decided to oblige velramanan to not to refer you PTRTTs as PTRTTs anymore not even twice as PTRTTs.
Hope my explanation was helpful. If not please let us know our velramanan is all set to help you.
- From: Rajesh (@ 199.168.32.6)
on: Thu Nov 8 04:03:47 EST 2001
Balaji,
I feel Sahana through out the song 'Azhage sugama' ..finally ARR could come up with a good Sahana number !
- From: IR (@ 38.220.167.227)
on: Thu Nov 8 06:42:45 EST 2001
IR_Fan and Rajesh - somehow I felt a strong influence of Dwijavanthi too in that song besides Sahana - the tail piece is indeed in beautiful sahana... have heard that song just once... I may be wrong
- From: Prabhu (@ 202.88.154.169)
on: Thu Nov 8 06:47:57 EST 2001
what is the raga of 'Maasi Maasam Aalana Ponnu' song from dharmadurai???
someone told me it is 'sudha dhanyasi'... but the song uses Ri swara...
can any one clarify this ???
- From: Prabhu (@ 202.88.154.169)
on: Thu Nov 8 06:51:05 EST 2001
Is 'Chandiranai thotadhu yaar' song from the movie Rakchagan based on raga 'Kanada'??
- From: IR (@ 4.3.191.65)
on: Thu Nov 8 11:22:57 EST 2001
Prabhu - u r right - "maaman unakku thaane" for example has the ri note - Sudhha Dhanyasi plus Ri2 would make a very rare raga called Pushpa Lathika (Sa Ri2 Ga2 Ma1 Pa Ni2 Sa - Sa Ni2 Pa Ma1 Ga2 Ri2 Sa)... It is strange that this raga is not popular while another raga by name "MaNiRangu" is more popular and there are lots of compositions in that raga - MaNiRangu does not have Ga2 in aarohanam (Sa Ri2 Ma1 Pa Ni2 Sa - Sa Ni2 pa Ma1 Ga2 ri2 sa)
- From: amritha (@ 63.17.244.75)
on: Thu Nov 8 21:07:33 EST 2001
Hi,
There is a cassette by TNS which has "akshaya linga vibho" "manasuloni" and a long piece in sindhubhairavi. I would like to know the name of the cassette. Thanks.
- From: IR_Fan (@ 202.88.154.169)
on: Fri Nov 9 02:45:58 EST 2001
IR...I am told that there is one song in raaga "Manirangu"..."Suga raagame, en suga bogam neeye" from film Kanni Raasi (Janakaraaj & Revathi pair in that song)(Directed by Pandiarajan, and Prabhu is the hero)...Nice funny song...
- From: Prabhu (@ 202.88.154.169)
on: Fri Nov 9 05:28:51 EST 2001
Confirmation needed!!!!
Is 'Chandiranai thotadhu yaar' song from the movie Rakchagan based on raga 'Kanada'??
- From: Rajesh (@ 199.168.32.7)
on: Fri Nov 9 12:25:46 EST 2001
Prabhu,
The song definitely does not sound like 'Kanada' to me. But, i am not sure of its raaga.
- From: MS (@ 129.252.25.160)
on: Fri Nov 9 13:27:31 EST 2001
I hear some "kaNNaamcchchi yEnada"'s saayal in the song "chandiranai thottadhu yaar"
- From: Rajesh G (@ 199.168.32.7)
on: Fri Nov 9 19:39:51 EST 2001
Hi, I just heard the song 'Adhisaya thirumanam' from Paarthale paravasam. It sounds like Kaapi, is it right ?
- From: neha (@ 203.196.129.98)
on: Fri Nov 9 22:25:37 EST 2001
inda PTRTT na enne? self is 'mandu chloride'.. adu nalai onnum purilai...
as a sidey question.. does anyone know of any raaga that would sort of be a counterpart to the hindustani raag darbari?
- From: neha (@ 203.196.129.98)
on: Fri Nov 9 23:12:27 EST 2001
one more.. any hindustani counterpart to shankarabharnam?
also does anyone know of any text that talks of microtones in great detail.. naraya nala tedaren... nallada onnum kadaikalai...
- From: Kupps (@ 156.153.255.134)
on: Fri Nov 9 23:47:18 EST 2001
IR, MS, IR_Fan
will you explain what does PTRTTs mean, to neha or will/shall velramanan/I ;-)
- From: MS (@ 129.252.25.160)
on: Sat Nov 10 00:05:12 EST 2001
neha:
(1) PTRTT - chumma engaLai (me, IR and others) Ottittu irukkanga kuppas and IR fan reNDu pErum. just funny term :-)
(2) u have come at a juncture when IR is not in town. I think she will be back after a month. U may want to wait till then. She is the best person to handle your query.
- From: Kupps (@ 156.153.255.134)
on: Sat Nov 10 01:31:13 EST 2001
neha,
Below is the excerpts from one Mr. Mahadevan Ramesh's article A Gentle Introduction to South Indian Classical Music. This might answer your other question, i suppose.
Interestingly, even the Melakarta selection algorithm allows us to choose all seven white keys, the same as the Western C Major scale. In Karnatic music, we call the resulting Melakarta ragam as Shankarabharanam. (You may have even heard of this ragam) In Hindustani music, the set of all white keys is called the 'Bilaval thaat', one of the major building blocks of Hindustani musical system.
- From: Kupps (@ 156.153.255.134)
on: Sat Nov 10 03:26:16 EST 2001
to which raaga do yendhan pon vannamae anbu poovannamae sung by TMS and gangai aatril ninRu kondu neerai thaedum peN maanivaL sung by PS, belong?
- From: neha aka mandu chloride (@ 203.196.129.98)
on: Sat Nov 10 08:44:14 EST 2001
MS and kupps... nandri... i managed to read that article.. yes its sort of informative..
mandu chloride has some other doubts now.. self is a major pink floyd fan.. and one of the pasttimes is to figure if any of them fit into a raaga... if there is any other kazudai like me here.. want to share ideas?
- From: neha (@ 203.196.129.98)
on: Sat Nov 10 10:07:03 EST 2001
one more.. 'how to name it' piece by ilayaraja.. what is the album's name?
- From: MS (@ 129.252.25.160)
on: Sat Nov 10 19:01:16 EST 2001
maNdu chloride ? why so much self abasement ? BTW, the piece 'How to name it' is in the album 'How to name it'.
- From: neha aka maNdu chloride (@ 203.196.129.98)
on: Sat Nov 10 23:55:50 EST 2001
Its convinient to indulge in self-deprecation.. prob is i have bouts of brilliance.. and am not consistent .. so its easier to warn others about the possible Mara MaNdai syndrome...
:-)
i tried getting hold of that tape. (how to name it).. but can't find it anywhere.. would you just give me the names of the other pieces on the tape?
meanwhile.. some homework for others.. listen to the love them from Godfather.. what raaga?
- From: IR_Fan (@ 202.56.194.134)
on: Sun Nov 11 10:52:41 EST 2001
Dear Neha,(mandu chloride is really cool name)
'Bilawal' would be the hindustani counterpart of Dheera 'Shankarabharanam'.
- From: neha aka maNdu chloride (@ 203.196.129.98)
on: Sun Nov 11 11:08:11 EST 2001
thanks IR_Fan..
feel like posting a tamil kadi joke.. plz don't mind..
one girl comes home late.. amma says 'why are you late'.. appa says ..'yen di late?' bro says 'kyon late aayi'.. sister says..'enthakku lattku?'
what does one infer from all this??
---> oru ponnu late aa vanda.. naal peru naal vidama pesuva :-)
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