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COPYING - IN TAMIL FILM HISTORY

Topic started by s.senthilkumar (@ 203.197.154.163) on Mon Jan 24 07:23:36 EST 2000.
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i think "copying" is there for a long time in tamil film history.Here we discuss the tamil songs copied from others.

For a compilation of copied/inspired songs: http://copied.newtfmpage.com

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• From: pradeep (@ 203.199.12.50) on: Tue Aug 6 00:45:11 EDT 2002
  
  The new line cinema tune is new listen to the old stuff ......it is different.......
  
  Oh......these foreigners .....and their Indian supporters!!!
  
  
• From: G (@ 129.49.80.204) on: Tue Aug 6 05:37:05 EDT 2002
  
  Maestro Ilayaraja to score Bala's next movie with Vikram and Surya Stars,
  
  http://www.webulagam.com/cinema/cinenews/2002/08/05_cinenews1.htm
  
  
• From: G (@ 129.49.80.204) on: Tue Aug 6 05:37:20 EDT 2002
  
  Maestro Ilayaraja to score Bala's next movie with Vikram and Surya Stars,
  
  http://www.webulagam.com/cinema/cinenews/2002/08/05_cinenews1.htm
  
  
• From: G (@ 129.49.80.204) on: Tue Aug 6 05:37:31 EDT 2002
  
  Maestro Ilayaraja to score Bala's next movie with Vikram and Surya Stars,
  
  http://www.webulagam.com/cinema/cinenews/2002/08/05_cinenews1.htm
  
  
• From: Vj (@ 61.11.78.62) on: Wed Aug 7 08:27:04 EDT 2002
  
  Maybe, this is irrelevent to the thread but i feel its worth a mention.
  
  There's a song in a malayalam movie called "Varnappakittu" starring Mohanlal and Meena.. i happened to listen to this particular song in which the charanam and pallavi/anupallavi are taken from two different tamil songs... one is "Oru thedhi paarthaa thendral veesum" - coimbatore maappillai.. and the other, "Udayaadha vennila" - Priyam... these two songs hv been mixed together to get that malayalam song... no marks for who the MD for all the above songs is... Vidyasagar.
  
  
• From: jibi (@ 63.210.217.42) on: Wed Aug 7 11:19:00 EDT 2002
  
  coimbatore maappillai and priyam is by vidysagar..and varnapakittu in mallu is scored by vidyasagar..gaded..tht guy is great ...tamilans don't have good music taste
  
  
• From: jibi (@ 63.210.217.42) on: Wed Aug 7 11:29:49 EDT 2002
  
  i checked the link above
  
  the songs are mostly copied or inspired by arr,deva,s.a rajkumar, couple of illayaraja ..
  
  vj ..look vidyasagar is much better than any other mds..just because he does wht he has to do ..his own ..i don't know how many he inspire or copied ...he has his own style....vidyagarism...how many people have been listening to his songs from 89 to 1998 ...not all ...not all mallus ..we appreciate good music ..thts why when illayaraja ,msv came here we appriciated
  
  
• From: Pradeep (@ 203.199.12.50) on: Thu Aug 8 00:33:00 EDT 2002
  
  Hi jibi,
  
  I would like to clarify sumthing here...Most of Malayalam music these days (particularly after ARR's entry) is copied stuff.......I can cite a lot of examples.......
  
  1. U were talikng of vidyasagar - hear his song in ustad - the bhangra type song where mohanlal dances .....it is straight lift from ARR's Kabhi na Kabhi song (Mere yaar.....sung by hariharan and SPB). 2.
  
  2. Did u hear the openingof vennila chandana kinnam from azhagiya ravanan (MD - vidyasagar), it is lifted from ARR's Chinna Chinna AASai and from the yelelo humming of the same song.
  
  3. The varamanjal song from pranyavarnangal for which sujatha got the kerala state award (MD - vidyasagar again), is a straightlift fom the anbendra mazhaiyile song from ARR's Minsara kanavu
  
  4. U should have heard the songs from Aniyathipravu - the humming in Kaadal Rojave (Roja by ARR) is lifted lock and stock by Ouseappachan
  
  5. The nila thingal song in Dilliwala Rajakumaran has a lot of interludes lifted from ARR 's Pachai kiligal (Indian) song
  
  6. from other MDs - The kaliveedurangiyallo song from Desadanam is a straight lift of Ghar se niklte hi - from Papa kehte hain.
  
  Numerous Carnatic songs r lifted completely into mallu movies. know, Asianet has stopped the TOP ten program after ARR's Alaipayudhe & KKKKgrabbed the first 2 positions in a malayalam film song countdown!
  
  The kerala govt went to the extent of giving the state award to a MD for Thenmavin Kombathu when the song was a straight lift from IR's Aasai Athigam vechu song!
  
  Please don't speak about TF MDs - they r the most talented in the country and the best competition is on only in the TFM scene!!
  
  
• From: Pradeep (@ 203.199.12.50) on: Thu Aug 8 00:36:46 EDT 2002
  
  Hi jibi, I would like to clarify sumthing here...Most of Malayalam music these days (particularly after ARR's entry) is copied stuff.......I can cite a lot of examples....... 1. U were talikng of vidyasagar - hear his song in ustad - the bhangra type song where mohanlal dances .....it is straight lift from ARR's Kabhi na Kabhi song (Mere yaar.....sung by hariharan and SPB). 2. 2. Did u hear the openingof vennila chandana kinnam from azhagiya ravanan (MD - vidyasagar), it is lifted from ARR's Chinna Chinna AASai and from the yelelo humming of the same song. 3. The varamanjal song from pranyavarnangal for which sujatha got the kerala state award (MD - vidyasagar again), is a straightlift fom the anbendra mazhaiyile song from ARR's Minsara kanavu 4. U should have heard the songs from Aniyathipravu - the humming in Kaadal Rojave (Roja by ARR) is lifted lock and stock by Ouseappachan 5. The nila thingal song in Dilliwala Rajakumaran has a lot of interludes lifted from ARR 's Pachai kiligal (Indian) song 6. from other MDs - The kaliveedurangiyallo song from Desadanam is a straight lift of Ghar se niklte hi - from Papa kehte hain. Numerous Carnatic songs r lifted completely into mallu movies. know, Asianet has stopped the TOP ten program after ARR's Alaipayudhe & KKKKgrabbed the first 2 positions in a malayalam film song countdown! The kerala govt went to the extent of giving the state award to a MD for Thenmavin Kombathu when the song was a straight lift from IR's Aasai Athigam vechu song! Please don't speak about TF MDs - they r the most talented in the country and the best competition is on only in the TFM scene!!
  
  
• From: Pradeep (@ 203.199.12.50) on: Thu Aug 8 00:37:26 EDT 2002
  
  Hi jibi, I would like to clarify sumthing here...Most of Malayalam music these days (particularly after ARR's entry) is copied stuff.......I can cite a lot of examples....... 1. U were talikng of vidyasagar - hear his song in ustad - the bhangra type song where mohanlal dances .....it is straight lift from ARR's Kabhi na Kabhi song (Mere yaar.....sung by hariharan and SPB). 2. 2. Did u hear the openingof vennila chandana kinnam from azhagiya ravanan (MD - vidyasagar), it is lifted from ARR's Chinna Chinna AASai and from the yelelo humming of the same song. 3. The varamanjal song from pranyavarnangal for which sujatha got the kerala state award (MD - vidyasagar again), is a straightlift fom the anbendra mazhaiyile song from ARR's Minsara kanavu 4. U should have heard the songs from Aniyathipravu - the humming in Kaadal Rojave (Roja by ARR) is lifted lock and stock by Ouseappachan 5. The nila thingal song in Dilliwala Rajakumaran has a lot of interludes lifted from ARR 's Pachai kiligal (Indian) song 6. from other MDs - The kaliveedurangiyallo song from Desadanam is a straight lift of Ghar se niklte hi - from Papa kehte hain. Numerous Carnatic songs r lifted completely into mallu movies. know, Asianet has stopped the TOP ten program after ARR's Alaipayudhe & KKKKgrabbed the first 2 positions in a malayalam film song countdown! The kerala govt went to the extent of giving the state award to a MD for Thenmavin Kombathu when the song was a straight lift from IR's Aasai Athigam vechu song! Please don't speak about TF MDs - they r the most talented in the country and the best competition is on only in the TFM scene!!
  
  
  
  
  
• From: Pradeep (@ 203.199.12.50) on: Thu Aug 8 00:48:00 EDT 2002
  
  Hi jibi, I would like to clarify sumthing here...Most of Malayalam music these days (particularly after ARR's entry) is copied stuff.......I can cite a lot of examples....... 1. U were talikng of vidyasagar - hear his song in ustad - the bhangra type song where mohanlal dances .....it is straight lift from ARR's Kabhi na Kabhi song (Mere yaar.....sung by hariharan and SPB). 2. 2. Did u hear the openingof vennila chandana kinnam from azhagiya ravanan (MD - vidyasagar), it is lifted from ARR's Chinna Chinna AASai and from the yelelo humming of the same song. 3. The varamanjal song from pranyavarnangal for which sujatha got the kerala state award (MD - vidyasagar again), is a straightlift fom the anbendra mazhaiyile song from ARR's Minsara kanavu 4. U should have heard the songs from Aniyathipravu - the humming in Kaadal Rojave (Roja by ARR) is lifted lock and stock by Ouseappachan 5. The nila thingal song in Dilliwala Rajakumaran has a lot of interludes lifted from ARR 's Pachai kiligal (Indian) song 6. from other MDs - The kaliveedurangiyallo song from Desadanam is a straight lift of Ghar se niklte hi - from Papa kehte hain. Numerous Carnatic songs r lifted completely into mallu movies. know, Asianet has stopped the TOP ten program after ARR's Alaipayudhe & KKKKgrabbed the first 2 positions in a malayalam film song countdown! The kerala govt went to the extent of giving the state award to a MD for Thenmavin Kombathu when the song was a straight lift from IR's Aasai Athigam vechu song! Please don't speak about TF MDs - they r the most talented in the country and the best competition is on only in the TFM scene!!
  
  
  
  
  
• From: Vj (@ 61.11.76.166) on: Thu Aug 8 01:53:45 EDT 2002
  
  well... that didnt call for posting the same stuff 4 times. :-(
  
  
• From: jibi (@ 209.246.92.161) on: Thu Aug 8 02:09:49 EDT 2002
  
  but wht abt tfm mds ..they copies from newmorus english songs..i think u a big time arr fan..this guy has been lifting tunes from other mds too..don't throw out tht ...he might be the famous one..will u or i excuse bec he is famous..
  
  i understand but ur facts not correct boy..i listened to all the arr songs and i find some similarities ..u said abt vennilachandanakinnam and varamanjaladiya ..please ...varmanjaladiya from arr ..please don't make this horrible postings guys..every thing from arr..arr he is the creater ..please man ....the guy ur were talking abt made brillant songs in tamil ..karna,priyam,arasiyal,nilave vaa,uyirodu uyirgaa...i am not claming anything ....but ask anybody who close to the music ..they'll say the truth ..
  
  atlast if u compare mallu mds and tamil mds ....who made impacts in mallu in the 90s ...s.p venkidesh ,vidyasagar ...tamil vidyasagar ,arr ....tamil mds are more competition ..thts not my problem ..bec tamil and mallu are different ..mallu music is to satisfy only mallus ..and it'll satisfy only mallus because we have a language tht speaks by 3 core people ....but in tamil ..mallus most listen ,telugus most liste n..they have a bigger market man ..and don't come and say tht arr not copying anything..if u look most of the people copy..
  
  i just answer back bec i need to tell vj the truth ,...
  
  
• From: Pradeep (@ 203.199.12.50) on: Thu Aug 8 02:54:15 EDT 2002
  
  Hi Jibi
  
  I do agree when u say that TFM songs r heard by other language listeners too. But u cannot deny the copies which i have listed . i think they r too glaring to let go. I never said that TFM MDs do not copy .....When u have people lifting ur stuff, obviously u r more talented! I don't think u there can be any qualms abt that!
  
  

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