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Topic started by TFM Group on Tue Jan 27 15:47:28 EST 1998.
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• From: Kishore (@ unknown-11-10.ws11.clorox.com) on: Wed Dec 8 00:49:52 EST 1999
  
  Second the mediocre comment. Also, the music sounded jarring for a historical story. You could figure out that the instruments are Western right from the opening bars.
  
  Also, who is the athai magal KD is referring to? The characters are Rajendra Cholan, the Vengi prince (vimalathithan?), chinna kundavai and Rajendran's love interest.
  
  OTOH, Aedu thanthaanadi is excellent - sends shivers up your spine. S Varalakshmi's husky voice is unique.
  
  
• From: Bhoori (@ user-33qtj3p.dialup.mindspring.com) on: Wed Dec 8 01:43:25 EST 1999
  
  IMO, Madennaip Padaitthan Unakkaga is a listing exercise. There is no word play etc. Movie sucked big time but I liked most of the songs - the popular ones basically. Kunnakkudi is a much underrated MD.
  
  
• From: NOV (@ ptl-cache6.jaring.my) on: Thu Dec 9 03:18:05 EST 1999
  
  OK, here's another song for discussion.
  
  Movie: Gouravam
  Lyrics: Kannadhasan
  Singer: TMS
  MD: MSV
  
  Kannaa....
  
  Neeyum naanumaa, Kanna neeyum naanumaa
  Kaalam maarinaal gouravam maarumaa
  Never!
  
  Arivai koduththathoa Droanarin gouravam
  Avar mel thoduththathei Arjunanin gouravam
  Nadanthathu andha naal mudinthathoar Baaratham
  Naalaiya baaratham yaaruthan kaaranam
  
  Moondradi mann keittaan Vaamanan ulagiley
  Moondrena vaiththathoa mannavan thalaiyiley
  Valarththa en Kannanoa thanthayin nenjiley
  Maarum avathaaramey, ithuthaan ulagiley
  
  Mannanin gouravam sathuranga naduviley
  Marikkindra selaiyoa pillaiyin vadiviley
  Aagattum paarkkalaam aattaththin mudiviley
  Arubathai iruvathu vellumaa ulagiley
  
  
• From: NOV (@ ptl-cache6.jaring.my) on: Thu Dec 9 03:22:10 EST 1999
  
  I liked the powerful visual accompanying the song - the huge chess set.
  Kannadasan has skilfully connected puranam to the movie-story, drawing several parallels.
  TMS' voice ranges from anger, betrayal and fear. Koodavey ego, tharpperumai and agambaavam.
  What a song!
  
  
• From: rameshb (@ spider-ti052.proxy.aol.com) on: Thu Dec 9 07:37:39 EST 1999
  
  One of those successful songs from the trio KD/MSV/TMS where kannadasan has put his singnature with a semblance of testimony. Kannadasan stresses the agony of beleaguered father(periyappa) with some of those age old convictions.
  
  moondRena vaithathO mannavan thalaiyile
  suggestive of a small word play from within its narration!
  
  One thing i couldn't assimilate is as to why kannadasan compares "marikkindra saelai" to the son's character thereby implying the father(periyappa) to be one of those villains? or am i getting it wrong? The "dhronAchchAriyAr" story and "vAmanan" story are more or less consenting to the sentiments of father character.
  
  MSV is brilliant, having brought out the mood and depiction so well. TMS goes over board with his "uh.. ah..." expressions but i think it was a deliberate insertion with sivaji in his mind. pAlootti vaLartha kiLi falls on the same line.
  
  Aside, IMHO, the best song of the movie is "yamunA nathi inge .."
  
  
• From: Sreenivas Paruchuri (@ ltm-pc-8.uni-paderborn.de) on: Thu Dec 9 09:20:54 EST 1999
  
  Greetings:
  
  I have two queries.
  1. Who could tell me about the singing career of A.P. kOmala! (Perhaps some personal info. too) Being a native Telugu, and myself better acquainted with Telugu song history, I know all her Telugu songs; majority of them from 50s. She also sang quite a few non-film songs, mostly for AIR. Apparently she was quite well known in kerala too. How popular was she in T.N. Also, it seems that she retired quite early, at least from Telugu scene.
  
  2. Re: *paraaSakti* (1958, Sivaji Ganesan, MD: R. sudarSanam) Are *all* 8 songs (as per my #Songs Book#, yes, those good, old chap books sold on streets and infront of Cinema Halls) available in market? I wish I could get all 8 in Telugu too.
  
  3. I have some really old Tamil song books in Tamil script from 1930s! (Have even more in Telugu, that is Tamil lyrics transcribed in Telugu script, like: chandralEkha, amarakavi (MKT), chakradhaari (a.k.a gOraa kumbhar, Naagayya,etc.))
  I would like to know if any of you have old Telugu film song books, and if we could work out an exchange.
  
  Thanks and Regards,
  Sreenivas
  (sparuchuri@hotmail.com)
  
  
• From: Sathya Kabali (@ wccp-1.hck.idt.net) on: Thu Dec 9 12:09:13 EST 1999
  
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• From: Kishore (@ unknown-11-1.ws11.clorox.com) on: Thu Dec 9 22:38:35 EST 1999
  
  Rameshb: athu marikkindra se'n'ainga se'l'ai illa:-) oru ezhuthu thappinathila engeyo poiteenga. Chessla varra black & white piecesa refer pannrar KD. Sivaji dressed up as King George strides down the chess board - billboardla romba naala ithai thaan use pannittu irunthaanga for this film's posters.
  
  Sreenivas: AP Komala is alive & doing well teaching carnatic music. If you know tamil, check out an interview with her on the intamm site. See an earlier posting of mine with the URL.
  
  
  
• From: Bhoori (@ user-33qtgkl.dialup.mindspring.com) on: Fri Dec 10 05:05:06 EST 1999
  
  
  I tend to dislike overacting. But Sivaji was near perfect in Gowravam. TMS's "KANNAAAAA" etc suited the character perfectly. I rate the songs both in terms of tune and lyrics as extremely good.
  
  Whenever there is a double role for Sivaji, the flawed character gets a brilliant portrayal. Utthama Putthiran, Gowravam etc. are cases in point. Maybe somebody like Sivakumar, Muthuraman, Jaishankar should hv played Kannan and "Yamuna Nadhi Inge" should hv had PBS/SPB singing it.
  
  
• From: Bhasker (@ 209.236.147.194) on: Fri Dec 10 10:54:10 EST 1999
  
  Bhoori:
  
  I think "yamunA nadhi ingE" IS sung by SPB.
  
  
• From: Kishore (@ unknown-11-173.ws11.clorox.com) on: Sun Dec 12 00:28:06 EST 1999
  
  New (perhaps old?) topic: When/how/why did you become interested in old tamil film music? I'm assuming that most people on this group are not contemporaries of this pre-IR music.
  
  My exposure to this was through SLBC programs (shahul hameed & paattukku paattu, neyar viruppam, the birthday song segment etc) that could be heard in Madurai while I was growing up in the late 70s. This was more because my sister listened to this and so the radio was on all the time, rather than my wanting to hear this type of music.
  
  I started collecting in the late 80s when I went to college. I liked IR's music, but wished he had better lyricists working with him. Lyricskaagave virumbi ketka aarambithathu has resulted in an evergrowing collection of songs, spanning tamil, hindi, carnatic, devotional, and some hindustani from the 30s to new age, fusion stuff. Curious to know how all of you got interested in this area.
  
  
• From: Bhoori (@ user-33qtk24.dialup.mindspring.com) on: Sun Dec 12 00:34:34 EST 1999
  
  Bhaskar: I could hv sworn that Yamuna Nadhi Inge was by TMS!
  
  Kishore: Imagine an almost village (Guduvancheri, a suburb of Madras) in late 70s, early 80s, night time 10 to 11, mottai madi, all alone and the rest of the household having slept, very clear skies with brilliant stars (no glare to irritate the amateur stargazer who is trying to identify constellations), late teenage and Madras 1 transmitting old songs without any advertisements for 1 whole hour. You would realize why I got hooked!
  
  More on this later
  
  
• From: rameshrajamani (@ 202.54.66.208) on: Mon Dec 13 13:10:16 EST 1999
  
  Rameshrajamani
  
  OLD IS GOLD.
  Raagangal pathinar oruvana varalaru
  From thilu mullu is always
  gives pleasure to the heart
  
  
• From: Bhasker (@ 209.236.147.194) on: Mon Dec 13 15:32:20 EST 1999
  
  Kishore,
  
  My story is pretty much like Bhoori's. I remember watching Sumaithaangi on DD and was amazed at how good the songs sounded. That was when I fell in love with PBS' voice. From then on, listening to old songs had become an obsession. Madras 1 and Ceylon stations were my hunting grounds. Found a bunch of like-minded friends in college and this was a major topic of discussion. I am constantly amazed at how I can still remember all those songs even though I haven't heard many of them in ages.
  
  Definitely more on this later.
  
  
• From: Ramki (@ ptp133.telsoft.net) on: Mon Dec 13 21:38:55 EST 1999
  
  Bhoori and that too only on Mondays-how i used to hate when they cancel this for some 'stupid':)kacheri or hindustani concert. During my 4 years of engg study at CBE i used to break my transistor and meddle up all the arials to receive the Madras A station.Do they still have this 1 hour of old songs??
  Even MadrasB, esp from 7.45-8 in the nites, 7.15 am in the morning and 8.10 pm used to air excellent songs
  
  
• From: Ramki (@ ptp133.telsoft.net) on: Mon Dec 13 21:39:39 EST 1999
  
  Can someone give me the lyrics for 'Manamae Muruganin mayilvaganam'song from Motor sundhram pillai?
  
  

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