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Raga of song please

Topic started by Gopal Prasad (@ greed.cs.umass.edu) on Sat May 17 07:42:45 EDT 1997.
All times in EDT +9:30 for IST.

The popular notation used on this page. The twelve notes of an octave are the following.

1   2   3   4   5   6   7  8   9  10  11  12
S  R1  R2  R3  G3  M1  M2  P  D1  D2  D3  N3
       G1  G2                     N1  N2

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Responses:

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• From: sk (@ 202.156.2.6) on: Sat Jun 22 10:16:05 EDT 2002
  
  Ram:
  
  But the song seems to have m1, and not m2.
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 68.51.203.216) on: Sat Jun 22 17:59:12 EDT 2002
  
  sk, the song seems to be set in a derivative of the shankarabharanam scale, and has shades of maand, a janya raga of shankarabharanam. The notes for this scale are
  
  S G3 M1 P D2 S
  S N3 D2 P M1 G3 R2 S
  
  You might have to verify this further, but its definitely not in Mohanam or Mohanakalyani.
  
  A fantastic composition by GR.
  
  
  
• From: sk (@ 202.156.2.6) on: Sat Jun 22 20:42:31 EDT 2002
  
  Vijay:
  
  Thanks. Looking at the notes, Maand looks ok.
  If you can confirm this then the entry has to
  be changed in the newtfmpage database.
  
  
• From: Ram (@ 63.161.26.234) on: Sun Jun 23 04:59:08 EDT 2002
  
  IR_FAN,
  Found yet another IR's Sindu Bairavi....."Dharmam Charanam Kachami" in Sippikkul muthu
  
  
• From: valli (@ 210.210.39.91) on: Sun Jun 23 12:35:11 EDT 2002
  
  why not...! i Saw 300 hindi 300 tamil Notation Links at this site..and i Praise him to do this..it takes Guts to Compile anything...
  http://www.angelfire.com/musicals/musically_urs
  
  
• From: satsona (@ 203.199.192.162) on: Mon Jun 24 01:24:17 EDT 2002
  
  Sorry for the digression, but this is necessary:-)
  
  Veera Ramabadran
  
  <>
  
  hey...pls dont put me on the same level with IR and MS yaar. it is really embarassing:-)
  i am no expert.
  
  in fact...i have been learning a lot in tthe forum..thanx to the forum members.
  
  cheers
  Satsona
  
  
• From: Sindhuja (@ 203.200.1.19) on: Mon Jun 24 02:24:57 EDT 2002
  
  Vidya,tnx for those links.Looking at the swarAs of Megh malhAr,I thought this has both the ma's-is this right?(coz they've used m and M)What is the carnatic equivalent of this rAgA?(Are bol sajni from Doli sajAke rakhnA and Ghanan from LagAn in this rAgA?)
  Prabhu,considering that Dheem tadare is madhyamAvati,shudn't it be Megh in HindustAni?u've given it to be Megh MalhAr...
  
  
• From: Sindhuja (@ 203.200.1.19) on: Mon Jun 24 02:26:32 EDT 2002
  
  ....but those 2 songs I've mentioned have only Ma1...
  
  
• From: Kupps (@ 156.153.255.126) on: Mon Jun 24 03:15:09 EDT 2002
  
  Sindhuja,
  
  From my(a layman's) perspective amrthavarshini should be the carnatic equivalent of megh malhaar. I'm telling this not based on swara pattern but based on the bhaava(acclaimed much by MS, the Great) it(raaga) creates on one :-)
  
  Still, i wud like to know swaraa, sanchaara etc, wise is there any relation between megh malhaar and amrthavarshini. Experts please help.
  
  TIA
  
  
• From: Ram (@ 63.161.26.234) on: Mon Jun 24 04:25:19 EDT 2002
  
  Kupps,
  ithe maari nakkal paNNikittu iruntheenganna...MS admin kitta solli ungaLa block paNNiduvaar....naan avLothaan solluven;-)
  
  
• From: Kupps (@ ) on: Mon Jun 24 04:31:26 EDT 2002
  
  illa Ram
  
  The reply was geniune. I posted the reply to the best of my knowledge. IMO if bhavam evoked by two raagas are to be same then they should be "more or less" same. Based on this premise i posted it. The ":-)" was a relief smile. A used chance to point out the glory of a Great.
  
  Otherwise NNM (No Nakkals Meant)
  
  
• From: Ram (@ 63.161.27.94) on: Mon Jun 24 05:12:09 EDT 2002
  
  Thavarukku mannikkavum Kupps.....
  
  
• From: Sindhuja (@ 203.200.1.74) on: Mon Jun 24 05:14:50 EDT 2002
  
  Kupps,hmm...shud wait for the experts' responses.But somehow,I don't think its AV.Which is the song in Megh malhAr that u've heard,which makes u think its AV?Is it somewhere on the net?
  Hey!BTW,paatti enna aananga? :-)
  
  
• From: Kupps (@ 156.153.255.126) on: Mon Jun 24 09:23:13 EDT 2002
  
  Paati vaaya pootitaen. Thanks to you all :-)
  
  Just oru anumaanam thaan (saying AV ~ MM) not based on any listening.
  
  btw munna oru kaalaththula naan oru kaeLvi kaettan yaarumae bhadhil sollalai. aagayinaala than muyarchiyil sattRum manam thaLaraadha vikramaadityanaaga maRupadiyum andha kaeLviyai kaetkiraen:
  
  What is the difference between SOS(sandham of a song) and ROS (Raaga of a song)?
  
  
• From: Sindhuja (@ 203.197.176.173) on: Mon Jun 24 10:41:51 EDT 2002
  
  purinjidithu!!!!! :-)
  Megh malhar differs from Megh by just 1 swaram-it has Ni3 in addition to Ni2.(ippo yaaru unna idellaam kettaanga-appideengareengaLaa?-hehe!naane keLvi kettutu naane badilum kuduthutten-tnx to google)If NEone is interested-http://www.dhadkan.com/cgi-bin/dhadkan/features.cgi?jnd=C&featureID=122
  BTW,Kupps,even I remember that question and said I didn't know the diff..enna pannaradu-namba masters kandukkave mattengarAnga. :-(
  
  
• From: Sindhuja (@ 203.197.176.173) on: Mon Jun 24 10:47:00 EDT 2002
  
  oh Kupps!ippo thaan inda tubelight-kku yen neenga AV sonnenga-nnu purinjidu-coz of Megh and mazhai!
  But can't 2 rAgAs evoke the same feel? :-)
  ROS konjam silent-a irukku polarukku -naa mattum romaba pesaren-nu ninaikkiren.o.k,will shut up for a while....
  
  
• From: Dorai (@ 12.144.36.2) on: Mon Jun 24 12:24:16 EDT 2002
  
  can someone confirm me the raga of the Nadaswaram piece on the prelude of 'Pattu Solli Pada Solli" from Agzhagi. The song sounds like Sivaranjani. But the starting Nadaswaram does not sound like Sivaranjani. Please confirm
  
  
• From: hihi:-) (@ 128.111.113.76) on: Mon Jun 24 14:14:37 EDT 2002
  
  kupps: i am writing a brief note on rhythms for our friend kiru. i can email you that (in which case please send me you email address); it should describe to some extent what chandham is. (it will take a few more days tho'; the concept of rhythm is subtler than what i thought and subtler than the concept of ragams/paNs). well...
  
  
• From: Ram (@ 134.121.72.204) on: Mon Jun 24 14:57:37 EDT 2002
  
  hihi:-)
  Please mail that to me also....
  Thanks,
  Ram
  
  
• From: Vidhya (@ 12.148.251.114) on: Mon Jun 24 15:08:09 EDT 2002
  
  Shinduja: Read all yr feedback.
  looks like Megh and Megh malhar are the same.
  http://media.rilinfo.net/ramgen/~saregama/HC00202.rm
  This is a sample for Megh malhar and sounds like Megh only(madhyamavathi).
  
  
• From: Vidhya (@ 12.148.251.114) on: Mon Jun 24 15:09:37 EDT 2002
  
  Shinduja: http://www.musicworld4u.com/asp/advancedsearch3.asp
  This is the search page where I got the previous sample.
  
  
• From: Ram (@ 134.121.72.204) on: Mon Jun 24 15:13:44 EDT 2002
  
  Vidhya and Sindhu,
  Isn't Madmadsarang Hindustani equivalent of Madhyamavathy....I have a Hariprasad's flute tape and IU'm pretty positive that Madhyamavathy====Madmadh Sarang)if not equal pretty close)...pls. throw some light
  
  
• From: Vidhya (@ 12.148.251.114) on: Mon Jun 24 15:26:24 EDT 2002
  
  http://www.sawf.org/newedit/edit10302000/musicarts.asp
  This "Saarang family" article has one sample that differentiates Megh and mahdmath Saarang, clearly showing that megh is madhyamavathi.
  
  
  
• From: Ram (@ 134.121.72.204) on: Mon Jun 24 15:33:50 EDT 2002
  
  Vidhya,
  Thanks for the info....I'm no expert....but are they close ragas?...IMHO Madmad sarang sounds eally similar to Madhyamavathy
  
  
• From: Ram (@ 134.121.72.204) on: Mon Jun 24 15:36:13 EDT 2002
  
  Vidhya,
  http://www.geocities.com/promiserani2/hcragatable.html
  this site lists Madhyamathy===madmadsarang../..what do u think?
  
  
• From: Vidhya (@ 12.148.251.114) on: Mon Jun 24 15:53:33 EDT 2002
  
  Ram: madhmadh Sarang = megh in swarams.
  The sample discusses the difference. From swarams point of view, both are madhyamavathi.
  The sample is unfortunately in Hindhi.
  First he sings madhmath Sarang(more of ma->ri prayogam), second Megh(all swarams independent).
  
  
• From: Ram (@ 134.121.72.204) on: Mon Jun 24 15:59:50 EDT 2002
  
  Vidhya,
  What is the final verdict?...Is it wrong if we say Madmadhsrang=Madhyamathy?....or shud we say Madhyamavathy is only===meg and not===Madmadhsarang...neway we rambling over this for a while...I'll see ur response and stop it there:-)
  
  
• From: Vidhya (@ 12.148.251.114) on: Mon Jun 24 16:02:56 EDT 2002
  
  Both are madhyamavathi.
  
  
• From: Ram (@ 134.121.72.204) on: Mon Jun 24 16:07:40 EDT 2002
  
  :-)Thanks Vidhya:-)
  
  
• From: Vidhya (@ 12.148.251.114) on: Mon Jun 24 16:21:11 EDT 2002
  
  Sindija: got this from Vijay.
  Ghanana Ghanan of Lagaan is megh malhar.
  (meghmalhar is a derivative of kaapi).
  
  
• From: pathan (@ 204.114.51.171) on: Mon Jun 24 19:06:09 EDT 2002
  
  What is the raaga of the following 2 songs...
  1. Amman koil ellamae... en amma undhan koilamma-MUSIC IR - Sung by Arun mozhi
  2. chinna chinna thooral enna - IR - SPB
  
  
• From: Ram (@ 134.121.72.204) on: Mon Jun 24 20:34:48 EDT 2002
  
  Pathan,
  Chinna Chinna is Simmendra Madhyamam based(I'm not sure I get a Shanmugapriya feel tto)...experts pls. clarify....no idea abt the other song....if u could give us some link to hear that it will be useful
  
  
• From: Ram (@ 134.121.72.204) on: Mon Jun 24 20:40:45 EDT 2002
  
  My judgement on Chinna Chinna is highly based on intuition....whenevr I start singing that song I end up with "Thagida Thathimi" in Salangai oli(which Shamugapriya for sure)...that is y I thought these two must be close ragas....Sorry If I had uLarified:-)
  
  

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